Thanks for wasting 30 seconds of my life.

Intersting fact: Snarbolax is a just normal, big, a bit wolver-like beast, but trapped in "living shadows". Living shadows? Most likely a shadows from shadow lair. But then shadows attacked again, but not only 1 beast, but whole "Glowming Wildwoods". Now in poisoned glowming wildwoods suddenly second Rabid Snarbolax appears. That means that snarbolaxes, even trapped in living shadows, can live like normal animals (for example: they can copulate).

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It seems like it's connection of chromalisk and wolver, it has spikes and fur, which is strange

I personally think you're reading far too deep into this....but then again, it's always nice to see threads that AREN'T about Crystal Energy or the in-game economy. :p

Basically, this game is a mere hypocrisy. End of Discussion. It's a lie, like the cake. I don't normally dumb down my IQ to a level of complete mental retardation but that 4chan refrence/meme was well deserved.

The real question with FSC is, who were the Almirian? they were clearly wiped by the fires of Vanaduke and his fire undead horde. but how did they manage to mount a city far down in Tier 3, maybe they also came to the planet looking for something but decided to stay in the depths, near the core. (just to continue this pointless yet highly amusing thread)

Definitely agreed that it's not a bad idea to be "reading too far into this," I'll again reference Moff's Law.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoffsLaw

@Iskender - You're right, by and large, I do think that we're not getting the full story, or, at least, if we are getting the full story, then Three Rings is missing out on a wondrous storytelling opportunity. It'd be nice for a change (for example) to see a deconstructionist take of the typical fantasy/sci-fi-esque MMORPG that just naturally assumes that we're set in this game to do good and that slaughtering anything in our way to garner their shinies and glorious, glorious experience is perfectly acceptable. Imagine where this could take us, the players being required to make real choices based on ethical decisions, perhaps a rebellion against the Spiral Order? Hm. I'm not sure if that'd work out to allow the game to still be fun, and it'd certainly require a massive paradigm shift away from what the game was like previously, so maybe not such a great idea. Still, the pursuit of moral resolution in at least some manner would be interesting. Wonder what's behind the curtain, so to speak, of the Spiral Order - or as Avixi said, perhaps the Strangers are hiding things? They run that mining corporation and the AH, don't they? (I think? Not sure.)

Regardless of our thorough WMG, I really hope Three Rings goes somewhere with this. Maybe not necessarily with our ideas, but at least to further explore the concepts they've put into action. I think that, above all, giving this game a real storyline and overarching plot (rather than just silly little Scenario Rooms, even though they can be somewhat interesting) is what I'd really like to see, more than new content or somesuch. Or maybe pursuing the plotline and new content could go hand in hand? Hrm.

Really hope an admin posts here and says something.

While I enjoy watching people wax philosophy for me (read in my place) I never really post too many of my thoughts because when I honestly sit down to put things to forums or paper my words wind up....

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SO, thanks for putting down thoughts into format people can understand and I can simply say "I've thought that" so long as you guys don't start playing "It was my idea first"

Honestly do believe a factions option should become available at some point.

@Opheicus: Haha, you're right - there is a decided lack of complexity to this game. XD Still fun though.

Also, the upcoming mission update does look really nice.

Additionally, I was wandering around Haven and found Hailoh (first stranger you see in Haven) mentioning that "shinies" (which I assume are crowns?) are "always appreciated by the Strangers," which seems to add a further level of complexity to the idea of a Stranger conspiracy of sorts. Granted, it's rather far-fetched, but I've enjoyed this wild speculation so far and I'm not going to stop. :P Anywho, whether or not it is some manner of conspiracy, I question what Strangers want "shinies" for. It seems unlikely that they would use it as currency - can you imagine the resultant inflation, with that constant influx of crowns? Granted, it works for the in-game economy, but I can't help but feel like it wouldn't work properly for the Strangers' economy. S'pose we'd need to know more about the rest of Cradle to say anything definitive though. I suppose they might use crowns as materials? Melt them down, or somesuch? Eh. Maybe they just like that they're shiny. That seems like it'd be a good enough reason for a Stranger.

I don't think we are trying to make the story more "realistic" as you say (and that didn't made any sense) but we are discussing the story of the game and our point of view of it. Again, Moff’s Law.

I'll just put it like this:

There are people who enjoy the gameplay of a game.

There are people who enjoy the story and the details that complements the game.

Again, what's so bad about discussing the story?

Story is interesting, if there was no story, then the game would feel empty and shallow without background. Look at old computer games; you're blowing people up. Why? What's your motive, your goal? Just to kill? Great, how long will that last before you get bored?
Get told that your wife has been captured and she's trapped in hell and you're killing your way to rescue her? Suddenly you have some motivation.
MMOs is a bit trickier, because the story has to always be fairly open-ended, lest the game "end", which isn't the point of this genre.

As for the Gremlins, I agree with Axonio that there's every possibility that the King has only become evil and twisted, and wasn't (necessarily) always like that.
As for their relative sizes? I always figured that was simply a "closer to the core" thing. The small ones that cannae fight or bulid with any severe degree are closer to the surface, where less needs constructed and maintained, and where the weaker invaders are likely to tread.
Closer to the core, the construction needs far more management and attention from the pros, and any intruder is also likely to be far stronger, thus requiring a tougher nature from the gremlin.

Also, you commented that only knights invade the CWs, but there's nothing to say that there's not in-fighting between the monsters.
Sure, Greavers and Devils get along, but who says that if they ever see a wolver they don't kill its face off?
It's hard to assume that, from your very own reason: how many times do we see baddies attacking Haven?
Maybe Haven is safe because all the monsters within the Clockworks are vicious and dangerous, and the surface is safe from them. There's nothing saying that whenever their floors "meet" as such, that they don't fight. They are, after all, very well segregated from each other; who says that's not by design, to prevent all out chaos from all the monsters fighting?
Between all the bedlam down in the CWs with infighting monsters, construction issues, the Swarm breaking free, an evil King etc...what's to say that the surface just isn't simply the farthest point from the epicentre of all the fighting, thusly making it safe. The Strangers discovered this as such, and appropriately named it "Haven", for it is one.

Who knows?

What I ask is this: for whom was the gate system built?
We can look at this multiple ways.

1) The gate system was built for the gremlins.
This would explain why the clockwork tunnels and deconstruction zones are connected to the gates: the elevators are meant for the gremlins to move between sections of the clockworks, and the non gremlin themed strata are harvested from the surface with the express intention of more easily allowing the gremlins to harvest specific resources. The minerals would be used to allow the gremlins to choose what theme of strata are available, based on what resources are needed at the moment.
When the Skylark crashed on Cradle, the gremlins had to abandon Haven (note: while the strangers have been in Haven since before the knights came, that doesn't mean they didn't coexist with the gremlins then as they do now with the knights. OR the strangers are actually a group of gremlins whom stayed behind in disguise to keep some measure of control over Haven) and since then have lost control of a number of clockwork tunnels because of interference by knights, and monsters escaping from the sky domes during the chaos took refuge in the clockwork tunnels.

2) The gate system was built to keep intruders away from the core:
By presenting a way down, anyone coming to Cradle would take the gate system down, as opposed to, say, rappelling down. In addition to the energy system preventing knights from entering the clockworks nonstop, monsters cultivated from the surface deter intruders.

3) The gate system was built as game, such that anyone strong enough to reach and enter the Core would be rewarded.
Once the Skylark crashed (possibly intentionally, to provide a large mass of contestants) the strangers tricked them into playing the game, but told only the Alpha Squad how to enter the Core, leaving every other knight to play the game endlessly, without the knowledge required to finish.