I told him to do it for real, get out of there, AT noobs.
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So if a person calls another person an "AT noob"... but then gets beaten by "an AT noob". Does that mean he is noob too ? That is the question
I don't wanna argue with people who say stupid things without foundament but I'll say that Bob (krakob), Blueflood, Redblades and Bleyu have done some records showing their skill without AT and 3 of them even joined no-AT tournaments.
And I'm not butthurt, I can't be butthurt if I don't lose...
In the GvG setup by Halc vs Oracion(where we basically just did 1v1's for an hour) I did in fact beat you or did your memory fail to remember that one ? Also pretty sure there's a handful of people who you'd consider "AT noobs" who can in fact beat you...
Well, according to your own rules, only Feyi, Illu and I deserve to be listholders at this point.
Just fyi,
-In the 1v1 of the top 10 the players must record
-Everyone must record and show AT and toggle off. If you don't have a decent computer you can record with a phone or a camera.
No real need for the first rule..
In case you ever read the book Animal Farm, you and Bleyu are being just like the pigs from the book.
In case you didn't read it, sucks for you.
Taking a famous quote from the book and adapting it to SK: "All players are equal, but some players are more equal than others."
I didn't say anything to change the rules so leave me alone if you don't know what are you talking about
I like the part where the rules were modified and I was not consulted.
I volunteer to hold the list ;)
now that i think about it yeah the LD group is small but can we still use the 50-1 League name at least?
Is it so hard just not using AT ever if it's such a problem to be kicked off the list holder list?
Oh wait.
"hELLO, i am a a a at nooob and i wanna have fun. IRIllusion dont get we wanna have fuuauun. i like sk and hitting myself in tHe heaD with a large objeCT. oOoops i peed my pants."
Pretty sure the problem isn't being kicked of the list holders thing. Pretty sure that the problem is that he got kicked of it for doing something which half the list holders do as well and they are still there. Also, to the whole thing where they hold records and all so they proved they don't need AT to be good or w.e. you do realize a list holder is just supposed to inspect a match, determine if if was legit and thats all.. Really don't see what being an AT user has to do with it all that but okay..
Kyoten doesn't answer me in-game so I have to talk with him here. Man, I'm waiting for you since 06/18 to accept the challenge, just play.
Time to properly post my thoughts on the situation.
The main problem here isn't that Scirio was excluded, nor is the problem who uses AT and who doesn't. The problem is bias. Bias is something that should strictly not be taken into account when working with this list. This applies for both those who participate in the list and those who maintain it. In this case, bias was taken into account, however.
Scirio was apparently excluded because Bleyu thought it would be funny and Contri agreed. But we all know this isn't an okay reason. The actual excuse used to exclude him is that the list must strictly be people who do not use AT at all, yet Bleyu may do this "to annoy people" while Scirio may not use it at all. Likewise, several other listholders are known to use AT at times.
While Contri does indeed have a point in saying that all the people who Scirio listed in his post have proven their abilities in videos, I think it's fair to say that Scirio has too. Yes, he hasn't done any damage [sc]oring on tape but I think we all know him well enough to say that he does not rely on AT to preform well as a player. His videos definitely support that statement, as well.
If you don't put him back as one of the listholders (unless he declines to be put back), I'll request to be taken off. I don't want to be a part of a biased competition because that's not what this should be about. The list should strictly be rules by skill and if bias is going to be involved, I don't want to be a part of it.
@Bob You are off then, I won't make people stay if they dont want to, but Scirio won't come back. BTW i see that all the players who complain about that are from the guild where Scirio is gm.... coincidence?
@Fireheat At the moment is better to not have a name, like the normal leaderboards.
Now going on-topic, we will get new listholders too and we will see if we change more the rules or no.
I never really looked at Scirio as a skilled player. The only 2 strategies I've ever seen him use were double swinging GF (without AT) and Acheron combos (AT). So meh.
@contri
Just gotta say contri that I've always given out about bias in your lists so being part of the guild I'm in doesn't really uh, you know, matter. (For example, the record list where feller has like 5 records in one category). Haven't done it with this one because I have not seen any bias until right now.
@incognito-clown
Then you really haven't been looking at him play enough. Oh and 1 more thing I should mention to you, all you need is 1 strategy. If it works against everyone why have multiples ?
Honestly, the only bias I see here are that the list holders all know each other and are bound to the no auto-target cult. What do the list holders even do? If their jobs are not significant, this is nothing to get philosophical about. You kicked someone out of your group because it's funny, I'm pretty sure people won't have a problem if the actual Leaderboard programs still runs with no influence from the issue.
This is the most silly fight ever. And even if you say your current guild tag has nothing to do with sh*t, it's not true. And that goes for everyone including me.
The discussion is over. Don't post more sh*t here, if you wanna keep arguing make another post.
Alright, then.
@Illu
My issue is primarily with the bias, not that it was Scirio in particular.
i think when meant by that he means make another thread in different place just not here.
Not counting the fact that I'm quite rubbish at LD, what about all the players who play in australia?
Our ping is low, and I've never met another Australian player with more than 1 bar of connection (our internet speed is sh!t).
@Thelerinator: The players will play on the server where both have lag.
Our ping is low, and I've never met another Australian player with more than 1 bar of connection (our internet speed is sh!t).
Your ping is high. High ping = high amount of milliseconds timed when pinging = it takes many milliseconds to send and receive information. The reason Australians lag isn't necessarily because the internet is slow, but because you're connecting from one hemisphere to the other as well as over a sea and a continent. It's really far. Isn't it amazing that you can still send information all that way in not even two seconds?
EDIT: dat Illu ninja :0
Hm... I think you should advertise your list in many guild in order for good people to take part in it.
For instance, Norespekt had even never heard about it before I talk to him about this ranking.
Could i challenge
Kerom for the 50th spot
Then i will challenge u to challenge Kerom Boom!!
I kinda want to move up the ranks a little bit, however I'm kind of in a rough spot. Vokster isn't active and the only time I'm on is around 2-4:30 am his time... So...
cool, having a global ranking is dumb anyway since players don't play with equal lag (ex: I might get 2 bars to play with EU but the same person might get 3 bars to play with me if they come to the US).
We are making important changes to the ranking, we will make 2 rankings of 20 for each server and a ranking of 10 for the top 5 (like drago) of each server.
Make 2 threads, too? Less clutter and confusion?
I suggest having 25 players per server instead of 20, to keep the amount the same as it is now.
You forgot the people that we removed because of inactivity/don't want to participate
I see you threw the ranks around a bit so why not throw in Hadn in the top 5 while you're at it?
BECAUSE HE DOESNT WANNA PLAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zainj challenged Theirillusion for the 1# spot. Theirillusion 5-3 Zainj. Illu keeps his spot
Uh, sci asked me to post this link here so here ya go.