eh I'm kinda with you shoe....
i don't see why they had to make jelly cubes the same as lichens without the morphing.... they look really ugly to. I'm fine with what they're doing(gameplay wise) I just don't see why they had to ruin a completely viable mob. I'll never be able to look at a jelly monstrosity again without cringing. glad they didn't put spikes on JK.... but now he doesn't really fit the new lore? why is he not able to do these spiky ground attacks all the 'lesser' jellies can do?

Has anyone noticed how teeny tiny our feet are?
With Plate armor you don't even have feet. It's like having two peg legs.

I think the issue was that the Jelly king was pumping so many crowns into the system that it cause rapid inflation and increase in energy prices. Making it more difficult to do was good step. Though perhaps they should also make the Jelly king rarer.

Although to be honest, with high pierce resistant armor, I didn't notice much difference in difficulty.

I LOVED the jelly cubes for their simplicity...their design was perfect. Now...bleah.

>They still exist in tier 1.

Fixed.

>In 3 too?
Nope.

They just aren't pretty anymore! We totally lost an iconic monster. I'd be fine with them dealing Piercing damage without being covered in spikes. Just have an NPC somewhere that mentions that they actually have really sharp edges.

Yeah honestly i think they look fine. Minor stuff like this shouldn't be wined about guys

I agree that I'd have preferred a better change, especially since this one seems to add pressure on my poor laptop's video card... but I must admit if I discovered the game now I'm not sure I'd be that negative towards the new design, so...

@Shoebox,

So you claim. What you say = not fact.

I can say the same about your idiotic OP. The fact of the matter is, you can whine like a lil b*** 4ever, but that's all it's going to be.

I think personally that i'm quite reasonable. You called the jellies fodder yourself. But think about it (use your brains). The JK runs have been easier than normal runs yet they gave more profit. This is the reason why people kept spamming the JK runs 4ever. Easier but yet more profit. Imo harder/more struggle should equal more rewards instead of the contrary. It's much better from a logical standpoint.

If you like the design or not is more of a taste thing, other than that you come off as a frustrated noob.(which ure probably not)

This is all a response to players complaining about the lack of pierce damage in the game. They made wolvers sharpen their teeth. Okay, this makes sense. Sharp teeth = pierce damage. Then they went and added spikes on jellies. Then...chromalisks? Really? How can you explain that one?

All in all, I feel this is a sort of "take that" from the devs. You want pierce damage? Fine, have it.

P.S. I'm hoping that the new fashion statement of spikes will soon become a fad, and the majority of the jelly population will get rid of them. I love the new spiky jellies, but I miss the old ones too.

prices don't change on a dime and I was watching them and they at very least didn't increase there dramtic rise and they dropped breifly from 6.8-6.9 to 6.5-6.6 while it could be random fluctuation I think the Jelly king run could be contributing to the supersaturation of crowns on the market. The supersaturation of crowns on the market is what I beleive is driving the CE prices higher.

They wanted to make Jellies piercing, and honestly, adding spikes would be a easy and decent enough way to fix their issue. The jellies already have a similar species that have spikes (lichens), so it kind of makes sense they would gain that trait too.

If you have a better idea on making the jellies do piercing damage and look like they should be doing piercing damage then I'm sure they'd like to hear it because there isn't much else you can do with a cube. I can't really think of a better idea on making a "better change" to them other than giving them lichen-like traits.

The bit you went about the Rock Jellies and Blast Jellies should be taken out in my opinion, since there are still in the game, and the point you seem to be making is that they are fitting into the environment, but the old jellies really didn't fit any more than the new jellies do so I don't see the relation much. Unless you are hinting at making jellies into things that you come across in clockworks, but making them look like they would do piercing is a bit of a challenge, possibly crystal-like jellies or spike-trap jellies?

I disagree with taking jellies out as a whole because of their change, you bring up that lichens are more difficult either way, but that's not what the change was really for, it was so they would do piercing damage to fit their description. Also difficulty has nothing to do with it, with Chromalisks many find them much easier than wolvers, and yet taking them out of the game would be upsetting. I kind of understand you were bringing up the fact they are a lot like some of the lichens now, but base lichens never had an underground spike attack so it's still a different enemy you're facing.

I'm not really sure what the point of this whole topic is really though, are you upset with the new jelly design? You don't like the attacks they have now? I sort of get the gist of what you are trying to say but you never really upright said exactly what you didn't like.

As was already stated I think the changes have made the jelly cube redundant compared to the lichen. I'm all for making the things stronger and more of a threat. However if they were going to go this route, why not just remove jellies entirely and replace all instances of their appearance with lichens. Just my opinion, but the slime family is now much less original.

This is your opinion. I've never considered them iconic. In fact I didn't like them much before this update. They were just to easy to beat. Jelly with spikes, now that is vicious. And I think it integrates perfectly within the game.

@Shoebox

Lol. Well anyway, keep being butthurt about the changes I guess

While I appreciate the new challenge presented I do kinda miss the very squeezable pink jelly. It does seem to me like the Impostocube is somehow left out now. It doesn't mesh as well with it's brethren.

Then again, I'm still lamenting the hordes of speedy Rock Jellies you could find in T3 back for a while in Preview. Slorb, blorb.... squiggle squish BONK! (farking rock tops)

I hope you have some paper towel for the water I just laughed onto my screen...

*shakes tiny internet fist while suffering a fit of the giggles*

agreeing with the notion that the update was a lazy way of adding piercing to the jelly cubes and kinda ruined their iconic/uniqueness. don't care that they're "harder" now really, but they aesthetically worse off imho.

I don't mind the jelly changes conceptually, but I feel the mechanics need some work.

1. Spike attacks should not continue after the jelly cube's death. The jelly cube has disintegrated into a pile of goo, what is pushing the spike?
2. Spike attacks are not telegraphed well enough. Players cannot tell the difference between a tackle and spike telegraph, and the shadows that appear where a spike appears are difficult to see.

As a final note, has anyone noticed that they are hit by invisible spikes? Several times in JK runs (since piercing patch), I've taken damage for no apparent reason, or from spikes that pop up in a location that is too far away to have any business hurting me.

That's a good point in itself, dogrock. I didn't know that devilite throws used to be uninterruptable... killing a devilite before it can throw is fun and rewarding, and yet devilites are STILL a huge pain in the ass and a challenge en masse.

So it wouldn't kill the much needed difficulty spike, by making it so jelly spike attacks are interrupted on death.

I just noticed the title is a reference to jelly^3 (cubed)

Agreed they looked soo much better with no spikes.