Spiral Knights - The button in FSC: Smoldering Steps....THE TRUTH

The button in FSC: Smoldering Steps....THE TRUTH

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Tue, 10/04/2011 - 13:21

Xeirla

http://wiki.spiralknights.com/File:The_Button_Truth.jpeg
LOOK AT IT
Oceanus himself says that the small red button under the box that is a "mystery" Does NOTHING. Its a leftover. (from beta i assume)

Now heres some things that were speculation until confirmed today by the GM

1. The Wolver theory
When pressed only normal wolvers will spawn instead of alphas.

WRONG.
1. When not pressed 3 normal wolvers still spawned
2. just recently I pressed the button and guess what. Spawned 1 Alpha and 2 normal wolvers.

2. Vanaduke is made easier
WRONG
Thats nearly impossible to prove because you cant EXACTLY recreate the battle twice.

3. Makes Trojans in another room become T1 Trojans (grey ones) instead
WRONG
When pressed or unpressed the Trojans are exactly the same Tier level in their respective spawn points when they spawn. Test it and you'll see

So yeah, the button does nothing. If you ever join with me and believe otherwise, either show proof, or ignore it because I'm not argueing with you during a run. Ill just send you here.

Just wanted to clarify for many of you. If you dont believe then ask a Game Master.

~Xylka

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 13:25

Orangeo

Yes, those are all wrong, but

Yes, those are all wrong, but it's gotta do SOMETHING!!!

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 13:31

Michaelb

I bet it makes the water orbs

I bet it makes the water orbs spawn faster or something else that's trivial.

And one time, (I'm pretty sure it was a glitch), three trojans spawned in the last boss as opposed to one.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 13:31

Mr-Spiral-Knight

holy crap guys

like i said one time it may have made the stage harder or easier if pressed
case closed i'll even prove it myself with you two

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 13:32

Aurorra

It causes people to make

It causes people to make forum posts questioning its purpose.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 13:35

Michaelb

LOL no way. You can't just

LOL no way. You can't just say that you'll "prove" it like that, you need actual evidence.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 13:35

Mr-Spiral-Knight

Aurorra

hell with you (just messin)
ok but seriously i think it has something ot do with the stage like in iron claw minitions

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 13:38

Michaelb

It might affect where the

It might affect where the buttons in the next room are(the one with gun puppies in front of 6 semi-rooms, guarding boxes with switches under them).

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 13:38

Bluescreenofdeath

It is the big red button of

It is the big red button of lag. Pressing it will cause lag spikes all over FSC... or is it the stop lag button?. . can't remember now.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 13:45

Mr-Spiral-Knight

michaelb

i shall prove it you find me on october 9th or 10th(when my ban comes off)
and we will do a FSC run one day we will not press the button another we will
wait asec do you know a knight called ight if ya do it's me cause i feel like i know ya but i was ight i changed charcaters(for the better)

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 14:11

#10

Notbob

I live in an old building. In

I live in an old building. In my living room there are two switches on the wall. One controls the overhead light/ceiling fan. The other one does nothing. Flipping it on or off has no effect. It is not connected to anything. It's left over from some long-ago wiring setup. I even asked the maintenance guy about it, and he said it didn't do anything.

Now, replace my living room with FSC, the switch with the button, and the maintenance guy with the GM.

Sometimes things really do nothing. It may have done something in the past, in a very early version of the level. It was likely left in as an oversight upon release, and removing it (since it has no function) is hardly a priority.

Everyone who's been asked says it does nothing. Every experiment to determine what it does says it does nothing. Every theory has been disproven.

My theory: It does nothing, just like everyone involved has said.

No conspiracy, no puzzle, just nothing. Can we please move on now?

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 14:23

#11

Mr-Spiral-Knight

notbob

Now, replace my living room with FSC, the switch with the button, and the maintenance guy with the GM.
ok so ya livin room is a s**t load of fire and undead walkers tryin to kill you wow some life dude but maybe ya right

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 14:26

#12

Algol-Sixty

The most believable

The most believable explanation I've heard is that once upon a time, the hidden button lowered the gate in front of the party button, but now that gate is down to start with. I suspect the developers thought that hiding the button would make a neat little puzzle, but after a while, decided that having to press the button would be just annoying.

When I solo, I no longer bother to press the button. When I PUG, someone always presses the button. *shrug*

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 14:27

#13

Bigfootm

[Quote]

"...but maybe ya right"

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Quoted from Mr-Spiral-Knight

Maybe? That button does nothing,I've tested it quite a few times myself. Sometimes, I just like saying it does stuff XD

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 14:29

#14

Xeirla

Rawr

It does NOTHING LOOK AT THE SCREEN SHOT!!!!!
The dev stated so!!!
Can you guys actually go and look? Bigfoot is the only straightforward answer here

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 14:40

#15

Algol-Sixty

The dev stated so!!! No, a GM

The dev stated so!!!

No, a GM said so. There is a very good chance that GMs can't even access the information needed to know whether the button actually does anything or not, and even if they could, spending the time to learn how to do so would be frowned upon. Oceanus likely knows more about the internals of Puzzle Pirates than Spiral Knights.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 15:51

#16

Evilduck

The GM (not dev) said he

The GM (not dev) said he believes it's a left over.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 16:56

#17

Nicoya-Kitty

The button activates the

The button activates the automated snipe-dropping cleaning system in the haven fountain. Please ensure that one of your friends or guild-mates presses the button at least once a day, or things are going to get very smelly, very quickly.

On the other hand, if you're trying to win an auction and have either a strong constitution or a virulisk mask...

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 17:30

#18

Xeirla

Well if it does do something

Well if it does do something give proof of it, because I dont see your theories working.
Also making a level "harder" depends on mainly your gear, skill and how lag treats you. Not a button.
Plus believing its a leftover, and stated by a GM, is probably more evidence than anyone else has shown already.

@Bigfootm and Notbob and Algol-Sixty
Thank you for actually supporting me or, at least giving a much more reasonable theory.
Maybe a beta tester could confirm some (if none haven't yet)
I highly doubt it supposed to do anything anymore.

From now on I'll just go with this reply to anyone i meet or with Algol's

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:05

#19

Sawkush

I think Xylka is right

I know the wolver thing doesnt work, will not have any effect on vana I mean no other switch in the games effects a different level...( that I know of), like you said you cant copy a level exactly so you cant tell if its 'harder' or not. I dont think it does anything.... not unless(crazyiness incoming!) it has to do with the pins in the core....? I wonder if 5 people(or however many pins there are...) were all in fsc at the same time that it might open the core... Nah I just have a crazy imagination XD

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:20

#20

Nearo

You forgot the

"Button makes extra zombies in the following room after button spawn if you walk into the corners"

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:34

#21

No-Thanks

Zelda

all i know about the button:it mocks players and i love it

i wonder if there are additional functions

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:49

#22

Gwenyvier

There were a few things left

There were a few things left over from previous renditions of FSC. The 2 that come to mind are the button you speak of, and the one that you could never reach in Vana's room. The one in Vana's room is gone now, not that anybody without god mode could reach it anyways as there wasn't a path to it. It got quietly removed sometime around Blast Network/Twins being released.

Personally, if a GM tells you it does nothing, I'm believing the GM. If it actually did something they'd tell you that, but would probably not tell you what exactly... they do like their secrets. :p

~Gwen

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 20:36

#23

Xylka-Mkii

Thank you to those not

Thank you to those not flaming me and believing me and the GM.

To those who are flaming me give proof at the very next time you post here showing that it does prove you right and that the GMs are wrong because they have less access to the game than you, or dont flame me for giving a factual solution to a mystery. Even if you don't believe me, this is more factual than your theories that remain unsupported.

The button does nothing, and the GM said so. You either trust the GM, or you dont, as Gwen said and to you saying im wrong, you also are saying the GM is wrong.

To wrap this up:
The button does nothing. Its a leftover from an older version of FSC. GM oceanus says so.

If someone in my group doesn't believe me, im sending them here, and to the image link, then sitting on the party button to wait for them to stop talking about how im wrong.

Im sure some of you will do the same, if not remove them from the party altogether.

In fact if Eurydice or Nick or some developer step in and finish this debate once and for all i'll be quite happy.

~Xylka

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 02:54

#24

Dirt

I have still never seen a

I have still never seen a single Alpha Wolver in FSC.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 03:59

#25

Sunless

It's a social experiment. To

It's a social experiment. To press it or not to press it? Can you stand not pressing it? It's a button, surely it must be pressed and surely it does something? Three Rings has documented your psychological nuances and will now beam special advertisements into your mind.

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Wed, 10/05/2011 - 03:35

#26

Eldibs

I've seen them there, but

I've seen them there, but only rarely, and not in a long time. I would imagine that they spawned as a glitch, and were silently removed. As for the button, it has never done anything as far as I've seen, which is cause enough for me to believe the OP, Xylka, and GM Oceanus. When contrary evidence crops up, I will reconsider this position. Also, I've heard the same thing that Algol-Sixty has, that the button used to open the gate directly next to it, and that this functionality was later removed.

Also, Replicant wins.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 05:50

#27

Evilduck

Once again, a GM said he

Once again, a GM said he believes it does nothing. Not that it absolutely does not do anything. And again, GMs are not the same as devs. The devs can give you a definite answer, the GMs can give you an educated guess. See the difference?

I'd also point out that I'm not actually disagreeing with you. It probably does do nothing, but you don't know that for sure and nor does Oceanus and your holier-than-thou attitude about it makes you look like a dick.

Stop being so freaking butthurt.

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 05:51

#28

Evilduck

Double post ftl.

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