Have you tried the levels leading to JK? of course if you revive a lot it won't be worth it.

I've spent 20 bucks on a card at my local gamestop for Ce and to support OOO.

I am the 1%

Yea, OOO would totally be against this game becoming pay-to-play. There's no way they would prefer to have a player base free of people that don't give them money.

Or buy CE/learn how to make money better. Easy solutions. (By the way, a glitch forced the price of CE up).

Oh boy, it's that time of the month...

I've been putting off buying CE on the market lately. Instead, I've been stuffing in lowball orders to squirrel away crowns while I put heat on some gear and farm up a quicksilver set (and then subsequently spend a bunch of time in RJP putting heat on the quicksilver gear).

I figure at the end of it either A: the market will have dipped, filling my orders and making me rich with CE, or B: I'll have enough cr squirreled away to go on a spending spree in the AH or just suck it up and pay inflated prices for CE for crafting.

The idea of diving on CE never really appealed to me. If I'm still in a gaming mood after burning off my mist, I'll just play a few rounds of lockdown. That said, I think FSC is still net positive at 65CR/CE.

Alternately, you could come up with other ways of making cr. For example, if S5 before FSC comes up Fiend again and you have a good shadow armor and piercing weapon loadout, you could sell players an FSC Limo service: For 40CE you run S5 for them, invite them at basil and head back up. Only 10CE per player for their party of 4, and you get to keep all the mats/heat/crowns from the run and whatever recipes basil has.

There are players out there with more than 10 or even 100 million CR, earned legitimately. Every single update from OOO for the past while has been focused on draining that amount so people have less money to affect the CE markets with. So yeah, OOO has been trying to stabilize the market.

As long as mist is free and no one considers their play time to be labor, the "true production" cost of crowns is zero. There's no reason energy should stabilize at 6k or 5k or any other price.

I can get the complaining players..
Im a F2P-player, and I have several sets of 5* gear..

How do I do that? Well.. I run the clockworks everyday (almost) for my mist, then I sell about every material I have on AH, only saving what I need for my next equipment I wanna make. Then I buy CE for my crowns, and only use that for crafting..

Easy..!

So now, please stop complain and play the game!!

Oh no, the world is crumbling, run for it, RUN!

are you stupid dude i mean 150cr above the last bider i mean really hundreds of people are trying to get energy it will just tak 7 people to raise it more than 1k that way ur advice is stupid all you have to do is put a bid up for one less than the highest person and wait if u cant wait then just press buy now stupid

"But there is second part to this CE madness. Stupidity of players who want to BUY CE NOW so instead of use "sell" offers they just put a "buy" offer for 150cr higher than one before."

If I needed to CE *now*, I would go for the sell order. Stupidity would be to use the buy order if I needed a lot of CE in a few hours and waited for the last minute to use the buy-order. Increasing the previous bid by 1cr might get 1-3 order through before you get outbid again, so you will need to increase again and again and again. And you run the risk of someone else needing a lot of of CE joining the bidding war. It *may* work out better to put a bid high enough that most people will have second thought about outbidding, so that you can get out of the way. Whether you win or lose at the end of the day is anyone's guess. I wouldn't go as far as increase by bids by 150cr. But someone doing that needs CE more urgently than I do, so it is only fair that s/he gets served first. And if I can't wait, then I will just have to outbid him.

You may expect those who want to buy a lot of CEs to take a hit by using the Sell offers, perhaps thinking that they are more able to afford to, and while partially true, it would be irrational to do so. We are all serving our own interest.

As for OOO, they do try to keep CE prices in check to an extent. The promotion this week-end is simply to encourage the wealthier players to sell off their crowns to buy that super-rare accessory. People blame the exploits for the recent CE prices, but we -have- seen above 6.5k prices before, without the influence of any known exploits. It came at a bad time for anyone needing CE, whether it is to upgrade to 3*, 5*, or to buy that 5kCE, 10kCE, 25kCE item.

(I will also note that I am a F2P player. And if I wasn't, the only time I would even consider selling CEs would be when it is very high. Crowns are common resources - something that naturally gather just by doing the clockwork. CE only exist if people are willing to pay for them AND sell them to the rest of the market. If CE buyers are patient, they could earn the crowns they need, and *only* use the energy to upgrade for themselves)

Whatever. In reply to the first post, I currently have a 5* armor, helm, sword, bomb, and over seven 4* items.
I maintain four weapon slots, one trinket slot, soon to be two.
I just sold my 5* Grey Owlite Shield thanks to a guildies unbind helping.
This game is easy for a free player in fact I'm looking to do a shadow run soon to craft the Snarbolax helm to go with my Skolver coat.
Currently I have 430 CE, with 32K cr. I'll probably earn 8K or so today.
The game already gives you technically a free 100 CE every twenty-two hours.

Work.

~Cheers,

~W

No it doesn't. The problem with the playerbase and, honestly, a lot of gamers these days is that they do not want to work for their progress. They want it right there in front of them with minimal effort needed to obtain it. Playing this game for free is easy, it just requires a bit of patience. Something many of the Knights who play lack.

well and i think the title sounds wrong... i mean do you even know where the CE is coming from?? be glad people actualy sell you the CE (if they realy wanted to they could delve into clockworks and get twice the ammount of crown) i won't say F2P don't have a voice in this game but realy the title itself is a slap in the face for ANYBODY who ever bought CE from OOO

and i said it before just browse trough the forum EVERY damn time the CE goes over 6K these kind of topics shoot out of the ground like mushrooms

I agree. That sums up the struggle of SK entirely. Got anything to say on OOO's participation in the market?

Or I could sell CE for 1 crown per 100 CE when I quit :]

I see what you mean.

Well, the thing is, people have been complaining that those items are far too rare to be obtained. I read a few threads about people who rage opened tonnes of Lockboxes, to find no rare accessories or Shadow keys.

OOO slipped them into the market to pretty much shut people up with a hidden: 'THERE. NOW you know that they actually EXIST.'

Unfortunately, these are still out of reach for the lower players, but there's nothing OOO could have done about that, except maybe give a free random accessory to all lower tier players, which they will definitely not do, for reasons I will explain now.

I think it's like a baited hook. They put these things on the market, so people buy them, others can see them, players now know they exist, so they will try and get their own the old fashioned way. Open Lockboxes. What do you need to open Lockboxes? Ce. What do you need to get ce? Real money or cr.

P2Pers sell the ce while F2pers grab as much ce as they can to buy Silver keys, while other P2Pers buy more ce to get the Shadow keys.

Result: OOO gets more moolah. (not that I have a problem with that. A business is a business.)

Neglecting the inconsistencies of course. This is only what I think, again.

Personally? I just want a set of Mecha wings. Type doesn't matter, I think they all look awesome.

MECHA wings, mind. Not Wings. Mecha wings attach the the Helmet side.

Unfortunately, they are indeed out of my grasp and do make me feel that much poorer. But hey, I can dream. ^^

Indeed, a very good hook.

I'd so laugh if OOO read this and went: 'Geez man, we only put them there so people would have a chance of owning them. Wth did you get all that speech from ^_- ?'

But what are the chances eh?

Cr sink update will just be a slower version, a more PERMANENT version of selling these rare accessories.

ATM, the situation is a "mine!" No, MINE!" "NO! MINE!" One over these accessories, driving the prices increasingly higher. As soon as it ends, the players will find themselves low on cr (low-er at least) and try the quick-fix way of buying more ce and selling it.

A cr sink update would do pretty much the same thing, getting you to spend all your cr (whether it be in one shot, or over a period due to addiction to it), and then P2Pers will buy more ce to sell, while F2Pers will farm, buy ce and farm again to gain as much cr as possible for the sink.

Same things, just over different periods of time. The accessories will have a more violent, instantaneous reaction, the sink will have it over a period of time, so the effect does not seem so great.

Really, I'm just waiting for someone to shoot down my theory about the relationship between F2Pers and P2Pers in a fiery fury. Always happens, even when I'm right ><

@last post: Hear hear.

/chokes and dies as a shot hits me in the throat.

X_X

/Ghost rises from the corpse.

FOOL! I said FIERY fury! FIERY!!!!

There's an inherent lack of thinking that happens when all of these "strike" or "protest" threads show up. While I'm not opposed to player organization (I think it's great), these movements are 100% doomed to fail because of their approach.

While you protest high prices with a small group - or, even if you had half the players in the game doing it - the rest of the players will enjoy little competition and great prices on CE in the meantime.

That's where this is doomed to fail. As long as another player can profit because of your actions, you should absolutely believe that at least one of them will.

I don't consider myself a "greedy CE jerker", but it's rather obvious that the OP feels entitled to much more than their self-labeled free player status grants them.

Best of luck, but I think you may find your hours far better spent doing work in real life... so you can get some CE! :)

Now if only OOO would sink crowns by planting some magikat hats and purring caps in the AH.

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