PFF knights are just idiots. EVERY KNIGHT IS. I have yet to see a selfless knight. *throws my ferrets's poop at you and leaves*

I have to say, they can be quite irritating to teammates.

But in all honesty, I LOVE my Tempered Calibur, and can't wait to upgrade it to Leviathan. I went through thick and thin with it, and it was my first 2* weapon, and my most reliable one at that.

People who call people noobs pretty much 'just because' irritate me. Seriously.

Just ignore them and play how you want. They'll only have the right to say that to you if your playstyle is actually having a negative effect, like hitting away opponents that they were going to hit, or hit hazards to them.

@Hector-Uribe Oh yeah? When I started out, I needed CE to craft my 2* gear because I had run out of mist. So I ask around generally. A guy asks me how much I need. I tell him that I'll take whatever he could spare. He gives me 60. Free.

A I progressed further, I ended up running into many knights who needed stuff.

I can't remember it all but I have given away at least...:

3x Autoguns
4x Hot Edges
2x Wolver sets
2x Spurs
4x Prismatech alchemers
4x Shadowtech alchemers
2x Plate shield (One of them with a Elemental defence medium too)
6x Pages worth of materials, each slot containing at LEAST 3 (so usually around 10-15. Sometimes 30ish) of the material type.
25K cr

And this is at the LEAST!

And I'm not even a well off player! Earlier on I was left broke after all that! ><

It's about sync. Polaris has an annoying knock back. It's just ridiculous how that gun works. & the main issue is that you're putting your team in danger with those knock backs. "Party Leader: Okay guys I'll aggro the Trojan and you guys handle that mob of slag walkers that are going to appear. Lure them away from me." "You: *takes out polaris and starts gunning them* OooOoO watch out! That walker is going to attack! PEWISHHH!!! You knock it back to your party leader and it swings at them hard. Oh no! You've cancelled their charge attack! Ahhh Trojan's turn to hit!! KADIIING!!! T.K.O. Thank you.

Now for the Levithian, do not use the charge when someone is fighting a mob. What you are doing is knocking them away as if you were using a blast bomb. Unless you know how to chain lock your sword, do not be the annoying little jack hole slamming monsters to your team getting them killed/loosing health.

It's the charge attack that annoys people. The charge attack has MASSIVE knockback.

When I'm in a party, I usually leave my allies mobs to them. I aim to knock my opponents into corners, and I try to make sure that I don't whack it over to allies.

Sometimes, I even help with it. An ally is cornered with a large mob, unable to shield bump them away, so I Calibur charge them and *poof* 'Hey, where did that mob go?'

I've seen Polaris used a lot, and 99% of the time, it's extremely annoying when spammed. Not only the unpredictable pushback, but also the bring flares. You may think that you're herding zombies and being helpful, but the other person is also trying to herd, so they set themselves up in the perfect spot, charge ready--and oh look, the zombies are shoved away from the bullet. Not to mention, with the slowness of the Polaris shots, the monsters are often not in the spot you want them to be in after the bullet gets there, and getting a zombie shoved at me mid-attack is one of my biggest complaints about Polaris. The next biggest complaint is that when I'm standing in the middle of a bunch of zombies, the explosions makes it so that I can't see the zombies getting ready to attack, so I don't shield in time.

Someone mentioned that DA might be more annoying, but that's not true, since DA charge pushes zombies in one direction only, and it's easy to see which direction it is. With the Polaris, the zombie turning a bit can cause it to be pushed in a different direction than you're intending to, and the person standing near the zombie can't tell precisely where you fired the bullet from, so they can't easily predict which way the zombie goes. Honestly, at this point, I bring Polaris to FSC for the rocket puppy room just in case if nobody else has one. If there's one in the party already, I don't even bother with mine.

That said, are all Levi + Polaris users noobs? Not at all. I find that these two weapons are very, very helpful when you solo and can be very efficient when you can control the mob movements completely. They're more oriented for solo-play though, and can be very, very annoying in teams. You can always minimize this by using Levi's normal attacks and Polaris' unexpanded shots.

Also, just because nobody has complained doesn't mean people haven't been annoyed. I've personally never said anything to the people who spam Polaris poorly, because I really, really don't like conflict.

As I said, I don't think everyone who uses these weapons are noobs (else I'd be one myself! My only 5* weapons for a long while were these two), but even when you're doing everything right, it can still be very annoying to teammates. If they're sword users, they most likely can't see where you're shooting from, so they can't predict where the pushback is going to land. When your shot pushes zombies around, you're causing them to miss their swings, and the bright explosions obstructs a great deal of a player's screen, especially up close. Even if the end result is a nice cluster of slags, the other people in your party are justifiably annoyed due to these points.

I don't think this person who joined your party is in the right, and I apologize for the random tangent I went onto--there was a Polaris spammer in my FSC group today who, although pretty good about pushing slags away from teammates, caused me to miss a lot of my swings and blinded me quite often. I would suggest that you work on an elemental gun that's better suited for party play, if your budget permits.

I'd say to keep the Levi and get yourself a DA if you want it. Selling your Levi won't net you a lot of CE, unless you've got a great UV on it (but then, more the reason to keep it :o). I get fed up with my DA's slowness sometimes and run with my Levi or Glacius just for kicks. Also, an Avenger works well enough in FSC that you can always grind a couplet of JK runs to get your Sealed to levle 5, and then level it there.

As for guns, I'd go for an Alchemer rather than AP. The ricochets are great in FSC since zombies are usually clustered tightly and Alchemers are useful outside of FSC as well, unlike the AP. I have a Storm Driver because shock spreads so nicely, but I'm working on a Hail Driver as well. I keep breaking my own freeze though, so I'm thinking of dropping it for a Prisma for the extra damage...

The polaris is a great weapon for FSC and Vana. Granted I've only done a half dozen runs or so, but I'm finding my gigawatt (haven't upgraded it yet) is pretty much all I could ask for in a gun.

That said, as others have mentioned, you need to know when to use it and when to put it away. If you're huddled up with your team in a corner and they're firing DA bullets over a flame pit, then there's no problem sending out a fan of polaris shots. If your team is scattered and engaged in close combat, though, it's time to put the gun away and use something else.

The levi, though, I would leave in your inventory. Zombie swarms respond really well to kiting and charge attacks, and doing that with a levi in a party is just asking for trouble. You're much better off with a DA or Voltedge (I use the latter).

I round things out with my snarby blade, and either my snarby bomb or my plasma cap depending on what my team has. (or just use the last slot for heating random gear) The snarby bomb really clears out the wolvers in that one room, does pretty well if I just want to kite a bunch of zombies around without getting up close and personal, and is very party-friendly. Snarby blade works wonders on the trojans, and the wolvers if I'm carrying the plasma cap instead of the snarby bomb, and of course the plasma cap fries the zombie swarms quite nicely.

Some players would love to think that they are "pro" because they own a Divine Avenger, Gran Faust, Shivermist, and Vog Cub. They love to think that the rest of us "undergeared" players are nubs that are in their way. But the proof is in the performance. I've seen 5* scrubs fail hard in T2 deconstruction zones and I've seen proto gear experts carry T2 arenas.

So pack what you are going to pack and forget what the noobs say. As long as you are carrying your weight (and using your knockback responsibly) then you are ok. Just beware the noob troll. They will troll you for being undergeared, and that sucks. ):

I used to use a leviathan, but I replaced it for a divine avenger. I only replaced it for one reason, I think the Leviathans design is too bulky and big. It looks weird in the hands of a little knight. The Leviathan though did Help me alot, I almost never had a problem of not damaging enough. I have never Used a Polaris, so I wouldnt know anything about it :P. But being called a noob for having A Leviathan and Polaris is stupid. When I think of noob, I think of someone in the wolver set with a Divine Avenger, Because most people who wear Wolvers are rude and disrespectful to new players and people with a different choice in weapons. I dont use a Divine Avenger because its "The best in the game"(Which I dont think it is) I use it because I like its design.

I do not have a Levi Blade, but I know the issues people have with it. I do have a Polaris though.

A lot of people (not all, but a lot) that have Levi Blade, Polaris, and Nitro use them the same in a team as they do when solo. Solo the weapons are top notch. In teams they still can be if used correctly, which a lot of people don't. They all have huge knockback. If you spam Polaris without paying attention to where you're aiming or your team mates are you're going to toss enemies right into them. Nitro, anybody not in the blast radius is in danger of having Mr. Attacking Zombie smack them in the head. Levi Blade, I get that you spent a huge amount on getting a CTR very high Levi Blade, it is a wonderful item with great potential... now quit spamming the charge every 3 seconds!

Solo I use my Polaris however I see fit. In a group I kill turrets with it, keep Giant Lichen Colonies pinned in the corner, and pop zombies that have attached themselves to team mates or are using their breath with the unexpanded bullets. And that's about it really because the huge knockback is disruptive to team play.

This does not of course excuse the person for calling you a noob without seeing how you played first. He has probably run into too many people carrying those 2 weapons that have not a clue how to use them in a group, but deciding everybody that uses them is a noob just proves that he himself is one.

~Gwen

While we're talking about setups, my setup is

Blizzbrand Undead Med
Silversix Undead Low Slime Med
Divine Avenger Asi low beast low

Personally I don't even know why there's wolvers in FSC ._.

I'll admit right away I stopped reading halfway through, I just want to get my two cents out there:
I hate the polaris and will always groan to myself (and usually any friend I'm with) if someone joins the party with one. I won't call you a noob and I won't kick you or ask you to change or anything like that and if you turn out not to use it in annoying ways then great. Most people don't, though. Something polaris users really need to realise is that their range is just slightly larger than most other guns - so if you're firing at mobs (the zombies in the shooting range room on depth 26 of FSC spring to mind) and knocking them back, you're the only person able to hit them. And then you have to wait for them to walk back towards everyone, only to blast them straight out of range again and I want to punch people who do this.
The leviathan is annoying in similar ways - the knockback tends to be lass controllable than that of the DA (although idiot DA users annoy me too) and in my experience, leviathan users are more annoying than DA users. I'll groan if anyone joins my party with a leviathan, but again, I won't say anything to them.
I've had plenty of cookie cutter knights absolutely suck in FSC and I myself often get berated for using a storm driver (which by the way is INSANELY useful if you know how to use it properly) so I won't ever judge someone for having gear that isn't the usual vog/DA/AP.

And apparently we're talking FSC setups now so mine is usually:
Dread Venom Striker (gremlins v.high)
DA (undead med)
Storm Driver (fiends v.high)
Blitz Needle (fiends med)

although I will occasionally be the one with a Shiv instead of the DVS/Blitz.

I absolutely hate the polaris and anyone who charge spams leviathan without regards as to where team mates are.

On the other hand my pure gunner set has a Leviathan for that very reason. To knock crap away.

You were soloing FSC and opened the party at level 26? Then I'm sure the person who joined you was in your friend list or a guildmate.... nice friend/guildy.....

Srsly?! You consider that small!?

Dude, I have NONE. I really need to save up, or I'll never get past 3* ><

Srsly?! You consider that small!?

Yeah, it is a matter of perspective. I had more than 7300CE since soon after the steam rush, and I considered anything under 15kCE to be bad. I ended up with something like the equivalent of 50kCE in CE and crowns. Find the right things to craft, and you can make a killing.