Please tell me where these changes are "confirmed", and how. I don't just take you at your word, sorry. Convince me.

Edit: Also, your title says "GMs", implying multiple GMs. Have multiple ones lied to you? Substantiate this claim, please.

It sure would be nice if they just told us stuff like this...

Did a test run in FSC with my BTB. There's this one corner I use for trojan-killing in the last room of D27. The usual method requires me to step a little closer to the Trojan. Might just be me, but it seems there's been a one or two-square nerf. Just speculation ofc.

EDIT: in the middle of my 2nd Vana run, DA charge attack seems to function normally. Gran Faust charge attack unchecked.

Something is definitively fishy with the ranges. Seems that my Final Flourish swings don't hit people when they are right in front of me. People will probably say that it is an internet connection issue but I have not had that problem until now.

I approve of these changes so far :)

I went to training hall and tried it out.
The range on the FF first swing is the same as DA/GF/Triglave, both from the sides and from the front. at least as far as hitting the switch was. This does not appear to be different from pre-patch. This could explain why some, like myself, didn't notice a difference since we predominately use the first swing in LD.

How about vs prepatch:
I was NOT able to reproduce the results from a prior test done by Glowing-Ember & Volebamus here. I could NOT get the 2nd swing to hit while starting on the 3rd block away from the switch. I had to move a bit closer. If my first swing couldn't hit the switch, neither could my second swing. So for me, I know that the 2nd swing has been nerfed at some point since this video. The third swing probably was nerfed too. But no one should be using the 3rd swing anyway.

I guess that's why I was able to dodge seemingly more in LD. Along w/ that autotarget change which helped me dodge more.

@ Chris

Valid point, I agree. It would be nice to have a little more transparency on stuff like this.

I did notice earlier today that hits that looked like they should have connected did not.
And I mean in PvE. Mainly with explosive blocks, which are pretty predictable for maximum hit range.
I had put it up to lag and/or my bad estimation at distance at the time, but seeing this might explain a bit.

Edit: Forgot to mention this was with Barb.

Mass hallucination has happened yet again! Miracles befall Spiral Knights forums! Only in today's The Sun!

Do you think it could have to do with OOO tightening issues with lag, which results in ranges seeming to get nerfed when in fact it's just not compensating as much any more? Or maybe the engine is tweaked and the effects are felt in other areas OOO didn't anticipate?

Basically, could it be possible that any player facing changes are an indirect result? How is OOO supposed to tell us about something happening if it's unintended? >_>

Oh, wait, they're obviously evil, that's why. It's all intended just to screw us over, amirite?

*Sigh*

As for was not player-facing but now is, the love aura is not as tall or as dense as seen through spiralspy pre-patch. I like this aura, had it not been revised just before launch it could have been far more obnoxious than a haven full of twitchy, noisy dragon wings :)
Good jobs guys, it's like you read my mind!

I noticed on a couple different monsters in arenas yesterday that my Final Flourish didn't hit on the 3rd strike when I know for a fact it should have connected. 3rd strike gives a nice bit of forward movement, so if you miss you end up beside your intended target. I stopped dead in front of them but no damage or any indication the 3rd hit connected.

I assume it is a bug.

~Gwen

I got my gunner-friend who uses a Polaris to go test this out for me and they claim no changes. That, and it seems to be as effective as ever in PvP >.>;

I haven't seen any change with the BTB myself. I used it multiple times in T3 to trigger exploding blocks and had no problem with that or with wolvers. Haven't noticed any changes with auto-aim either, but then again I only want it to kick in when I'm close to monsters using my fast swords.

@Skold-The-Drac - 1 of your complaints is directly tied to skill, don't blame it on a patch if you die. Also, start running in parties so you don't have to CE rev if you are concerned about profit. Another of your complaints is due to either an old computer, or a bad connection. The final battle has always been laggy on my laptop or HTPC especially when the JK spins. As for the 2-swing swords, did you change any other equipment? I've had no problem stun-locking gun puppies with my 3-swing swords in T3.

@topic of dev's lying. You don't know this. All you know is that you have perceived changes that may have been unintended side affects.

Flourish seems to have gotten it the most, you can tell by the number of posts claiming the flourish has "phantom-range"

The devs actually pay attention, it's just strange that they didn't explain what they did. Probably because of snipestorms like this.

You can swing while moving? I thought swords had to stop moving to attack.

I played some T2 LD yesterday, and something was clearly wrong with my swift flourish. I now know.
OOO, please tell us what you do instead of making us figure it all out.

this is no longer a tinfoil hat party