(sniffle)

translation: "I use auto aim, deal with it 8)"

+1 for Djawed

You should deal with it. You're being a whiny scrub when you don't use it and say that it's unfair. Use what the game gives you to get the biggest advantage you can. The game doesn't care what you use to win. It only cares that you win.

Yep. I use AA and don't care about it, nor do I whine about other people who use it. It's fair game.

Chances are, people will deal 10K+ dmg in LD using toothpicks because they have Auto-Aim on. Now what would happen if you take auto-aim away? They cant kill you as much. Now they have to rely on their own aim to complete that combo. I guess you are mad because of they remove auto-aim, you are pretty much trash in LD :3

@Alynn: My point exactly.

"Chances are, people will deal 10K+ dmg in LD using toothpicks because they have Auto-Aim on. Now what would happen if you take auto-aim away? They cant kill you as much. Now they have to rely on their own aim to complete that combo. I guess you are mad because of they remove auto-aim, you are pretty much trash in LD :3"

Given that the hammer is here, you don't even need auto aim to toothpick/hammer and get 10K+. Just swing and dash with a hammer or use the first swing of a toothpick and shield cancel. Most people only use AA to get the perfect aim on combo finishers, which are pointless anyway because you end up taking tons of damage due to the vulnerability.

If OOO disables that noob crap, I'll be unnstopable.

The only player that can get more than 30k without auto-target

kakajakjakj

DOWN WITH THE NOOOOOOBS!!!!!

Okay, just to test this theory, I played a couple hours of LD with and without autoaim.

My findings are this:

The difference is minute.

I am one of the people that uses autoaim, and I don't really see the shame in it. It can even hinder a person, slowing down their sword swings. I use it primarily for my Gran Faust ironically because the first flourish swing has such a wide range, nothing really needs to be aimed. When I did turn off AA for about 5-6 matches I noticed my flourish first swings were much more accurate, but the second two hits are not so much. It is extremely hard to hit people with the full flourish combo without AA on, especially considering my usual 2 bar connection. I hit people outside of my normal range with AA OFF, with my Gran Faust, I just tended to miss with the second swing more often.

So my conclusion is this:

Autoaim is a PREFERENCE. It's neither a "win-mode" or "noob". It's just a preference. If you like to only use the first swings of weapons, I suggest auto-aim off, especially if you are a guardian who needs to predict where a striker is going. If you like to use full combos, turn on your autoaim. So what if other players are whining. They're only whining because they're dead.

And on another note, your self absorbed comments are quite frankly obnoxious. I don't think you will become "unstoppable" by any stretch of the imagination. This is a team game, it's not all about IM THE BEST STRIKER OMGOGMGOFMSDFN.

Honestly I think it has more to do with the competitive aspect so anything that's there to dumb down that aspect sucks. lockdown is supposed to be skill based competition. And if you understand the concept of competition, you should understand that being the best, should really mean that you are the best in a game where everyone is playing by the same rules with the exact same resources etc. Anyone who understands this concept, should also understand the issue. Dumbing it down with auto aim options isn't nescesary for pvp modes, because it's supposed to keep everyone equal and balanced based around their skills. I can understand the auto aim switched on by default for newbies, but in PVE it shouldnt bother anyone. If it's competetive however, there shouldn't be anything there to dum down the experience, even if there are newbs, they will have to be encouraged as well to become better without the auto aim.

I think 3 rings is a team made up of clever people. If they see this type of thread, I have no doubts they will understand and maybe eventually chang it, because the mode will only benefit from it.

It kind of blows my mind that experienced BNP would defend such a thing. I would imagine skilled guys like you nodocchi, wouldnt mind to be forcefully challenged a little more. Would you really mind if they removed auto aim from lockdown?

AA only helps you if you're spamming FF/BTB combos like a Tier1 scrub, strikers who know how to play barely use the 2nd and 3rd swing of a pierce weapon. Gran Faust swings have a wide angle, its hard to tell the difference.

Probably if OOO disables AA for everyone, noobs will be missing a lot of hits because of combo spamming, while pro strikes kills them with GF or a brandish charge.

Besides, OOO seems to be too busy buffin' and nerfin' random stuff in stealth patches, or charging for new content, to listen cry babies.

Is that this also allows people using auto aim to easily hit other players using the recon cloak. I'm one hundred 100% sure that even AA enable you to hit invisible objects because when in the expansion missions when you just recklessly fling your sword around it always seems to turn toward the invisible gremlins.
So in short the only problem with it is the fact that your not really invisible when auto aim still lock on to you.

Sigh. Another pointless anti-auto-target thread filled with support from people who are terrible at Lockdown regardless of what their opponent uses. I'm going to explain this very slowly one more time for you...

If using auto-target causes such an increase in playing ability in Lockdown, then if you are skilled, then you should use it, and then go beat all these supposed "unskilled AA-users." It costs you zero money, and essentially no effort to activate auto-target. If it's as game-breaking as you claim, you have no reason to not use it. Your enemies are using it, turn it against them. Not even "I don't use it on principle" is an excuse. You know what, I use it on principle, just to have that much more advantage over noobs that don't understand the concept of using every tool at your disposal. Because if you don't use all your available tools, and you lose, you only have yourself to blame. I could understand it if it was some completely hidden feature, or if you had to pay a lot to have it enabled, but it's not and you don't. It's available to literally everyone who plays. It's like if you entered a woodcutting contest, and when they offered you a free axe, you said "no thanks, I'll chop it with my hands," and then complained when everyone else took an axe and cut wood faster than you. It's your own fault, get over it.

But, it's like the actual experienced and skilled Lockdown players in this thread have said - it doesn't actually make that big of a difference. If you're skilled and you use it, you're still skilled, and if you're unskilled and you use it, you're still unskilled. All it does is help correct for minor deviations in mouse placement. It does not turn your sword into a homing missile, and it doesn't really help at all with heavy swords.

@Horizonknight
From what I remember, auto-aim was automatically disabled initially when it was being tested in the test server. But people complained and so OOO had to turn it back on before releasing it into the main game.

I guess the moral is if you don't like auto-aim, blame the paying players who tested it hahaha.

I couldn't care less if the auto-aim is removed or not, but did everyone (except a few) ignore what Liveice said? Not everyone has perfect internet, uses a mouse, or has a good computer. What do you suggest to those people? Get better internet/mouse/computer? Quit playing?

Like others have said, auto-aim really only is useful if the player is using the second and third hits of the Flourish combos.
It's not too difficult to dodge and counter these players as they leave themselves vulnerable after the last hit of the combo.

Anyways, what're you going to do?
Why is your solution to complain on the forums, to your friends, or even your guild?
Why do you make yourself so miserable?
Adapt and overcome!
Really train yourself to learn how to dodge those combo spammers, and before you know it you'll be able to defeat the average Lockdown crowd.
Once you learn how, you'll start to support the auto-aim because frankly, those spammers are actually at a disadvantage.

The above post...
Oh my goodness.
I'm not even gonna say anything.

Auto Aim can lock onto cloaked Recons, did you know that?

*random person passby*

Can't play Lockdown very well? Complaining very much? QUIT/DIE AND MAKE ROOM! >:I

Auto Aim DOES track cloaked Recons. You don't see the reticle lock on to the invisible player, but your attacks can and will find him/her.

This would really piss off a lot of guardians and strikers that continuously does the 3-combo with toothpicks.
Doesn't affect the pro-strikers though since they rarely use the third swing. Removing auto target will make those with bad ping miss a lot even in close-up encounters.

-Bobxloblaw

Really guys? A thread about removing Auto Aim in LD and not a single word about gunners? You guys are all complaining about the lack of creativity and originality in LD and yet the same people are supporting an idea that would almost obliterate an entire genre of the most original breeds still surviving.

Autoaim breaks LD for 3 reasons.

1. Autoaim pidgonholes Sword Play

Gun users don't benefit. Bomb users don't benefit. Sword users benefit RIDICULOUSLY. Want to know why almost every player is a sword focused user in lockdown? This is it right here. You can tell me all about how bombers counter sword users and gunners counter bombers but until I see ONE match with more gunners in it or more bombers in it...my point stands.

2. Autoaiming makes Recons RNG to the point of frustration

Autoaim tracks cloaked recons. Every player knows this. Every player will spam sword swings everywhere the second "!" appears over their head because the players know if the recon gets somewhat close...they WILL get hit first.

3. Autoaim forces Striker Play

Autoaim works the best when you are very close to another player. This means that you'll always be trading hits with another player because you cannot move faster than the other player to get out of melee range of the weapon.

That is UNLESS you are playing a striker. The only class of the three capable of exiting the autoaim radius of a weapon (Striker Charge). This essentially allows a striker to always take advantage of the autoaim radius while escaping the autoaim radius to avoid trading hits. A guardian or recon does not have this option, when it comes to leaving melee range. This is because a guardian only has so much shield and autoaim tracks recons attempting to restealth.

Autoaim doesn't REQUIRE you to all be sword using strikers. But Autoaim DOES punish you severly if you aren't.