Spiral Knights - Before you suggest a new weapon read here

Before you suggest a new weapon read here

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Tue, 04/24/2012 - 15:00

Mk-Vl

Give me a day or so to finish but what i am starting right now is a catalog of existing end game weapons by type. I am hoping to use this to show what is needed in the game and what we already have. at first i'm going to just put in everything but i'm going to add links to wikis etc later

WORK IN PROGRESS comments appreciated

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finished swords V1.0
Starting with guns
No idea how to classify bombs yet

Guns V1.0 done
status items are next

Status V1.0 done
need chance and strength of electron vortex shock

bombs V1.0 done
FoV classification fixed

Bombs V2.0 done

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 20:00

Mk-Vl

Swords

Normal/elemental-fast--------------------0

Normal/elemental-med-------------------4
Glacius
Combuster
Voltedge
Fang of Vog

Normal/elemental-slow-------------------1
Divine Avenger

Normal/shadow-fast-----------------------0

Normal/shadow-med----------------------1
Acheron

Normal/shadow-slow----------------------1
Gran Faust

Normal/piercing-fast-----------------------0

Normal/piercing-med----------------------0

Normal/piercing-slow----------------------0

---PURE---
Normal-fast---------------------------------3
Wild Hunting Blade
Dread Venom Striker
Winmillion 4*

Normal-med--------------------------------3
Leviathan Blade
Scissor Blades
Cold Iron Vanquisher

Normal-slow--------------------------------2
Sudaruska
Triglav

Elemental-fast------------------------------0

Elemental-med-----------------------------0

Elemental-slow-----------------------------1
Warmaster Rocket Hammer

Shadow-fast--------------------------------0

Shadow-med-------------------------------0

Shadow-slow-------------------------------0

Piercing-fast--------------------------------4
Final Flourish
Furious Flamberge
Fearless Rigadoon
Barbarous Thorn Blade

Piercing-med-------------------------------0

Piercing-slow-------------------------------0

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 17:13

Mk-Vl

Guns

All mixes of types---------0

---PURE---

Normal-6 shot mag-------0

Normal-3 shot mag-------2
Valiance
Neutralizer
Supernova

Normal-2 shot mag-------2
Volcanic Pepperbox
Iron Slug

Elemental-6 shot mag-----1
Argent Peacemaker

Elemental-3 shot mag-----1
Polaris

Elemental-2 shot mag-----4
Magma Driver
Storm Driver
Nova Driver
Hail Driver

Shadow-6 shot mag-------1
Sentenza

Shadow-3 shot mag-------1
Biohazard

Shadow-2 shot mag-------1
Umbra Driver

Piercing-6 shot mag-------0

Piercing-3 shot mag-------0

Piercing-2 shot mag-------3
Blitz Needle
Plague Needle
Callahan

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 08:21

Mk-Vl

Bombs

DPS focused bombs
Normal
Big Angry Bomb
Nitrome
Irontech Destroyer
Heavy Deconstuctor 4*
Ionized Salt Bomb 4*

Piercing
Dark Briar Barrage
Ionized Salt Bomb 4*
Radiant Sun Shards 4*

Shadow
Dark Retribution

Elemental
Radiant Sun Shards 4*

Support Bombs
Ash of Agni
Shivermist Buster
Stagger Storm
Venom Veiler
Voltaic Tempest
Graviton Vortex
Electron Vortex

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 17:43

Mk-Vl

Status caused

(Chance of causing status;Strength of status caused)

Shock-----------------------------------------------6
Polaris (good;moderate)
Storm Driver (good;moderate)
Voltedge (good+;strong)
Voltaic Tempest (good;minor)
Electron Vortex (chance)
Ionized Salt Bomb 4* (good;moderate)

Stun-------------------------------------------------4
Callahan (good;moderate)
Sudaruska (fair+;moderate)
Fearless Rigadoon (slight;moderate)
Stagger Storm (good;minor)

Curse-----------------------------------------------1
Gran Faust (fair;strong)(selfchance+;*)

Fire-------------------------------------------------6
Magma Driver (good;moderate)
Volcanic Pepperbox (slight;moderate)
Fang of Vog (good;strong) (selfchance;verystrong**)
Furious Flamberge (fair+;moderate)
Combuster (good+;strong)
Ash of Agni (good;minor)

Poison----------------------------------------------4
Biohazard (good;moderate)
Plague Needle (slight;strong)
Dread Venom Striker (slight;strong)
Venom Veiler (good;minor)

Freeze----------------------------------------------4
Hail Driver (good;moderate)
Triglav (slight;strong)
Glacius (good+;strong)
Shivermist Buster (good;minor)

*Strength of self inflicted curse is not known. Since with no resistance curse time = 43sec it is assumed to be very strong.
**According to the Wiki FoV the self inflicted fire is slightly stronger than the fire inflicted on enemies which is why I appointed it the strength of very strong.
+Only on charge.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 15:02

Mk-Vl

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work in suggestions by others

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 18:03

Luguiru

Mind if I take a look inside the barn

You may want to divide weapons by star rank and mechanics; for example, vaporizer and standard bombs are different, but do we need more standard or vaporizer mechanics? I can whip up an index of weapon lines, excluding the dead ends (done at 1* or 3*), with consistent upgrade paths. You are trying to organize them by damage type and clip size; I am not going to address how bombs have no categorization.

This is weapon mechanics, not damage.

Sword:
______________________________

Standard:
Calibur
Brandish

Rapier:
Flourish
Snarble Barb

Cutter:
Cutter

Spur:
Spur

Heavy:
Troika

______________________________

Standard:
Calibur:
Temepred Calibur
Brandish:
Nightblade
Shockburst Brandish
Fireburst Brandish
Iceburst Brandish
Cautery Sword

Rapier:
Flourish:
Swift Flourish
Rigadoon
Flamberge
Snarble Barb:
Twisted Snarble Barb

Cutter:
Striker

Spur:
Arc Razor

Heavy:
Troika:
Kamarin
Grintovec
Sealed:
Sealed Sword
______________________________

Standard:
Calibur:
Ascended Calibur
Cold Iron Carver
Brandish:

Boltbrand
Blazebrand
Blizzbrand

Rapier:
Flourish:
Grand Flourish
Daring Rigadoon
Fierce Flamberge
Snarble Barb:
Dark Thorn Blade

Cutter:
Hunting Blade
Vile Striker

Spur:
Winmillion

Heavy:
Khorovod
Jalovec
Avenger
Faust

______________________________

Standard:
Calibur:
Leviathan Blade
Cold Iron Vanquisher
Brandish:
Acheron
Voltedge
Combuster
Glacius

Rapier:
Flourish:
Final Flourish
Fearless Rigadoon
Furious Flamberge
Snarble Barb:
Barbarous Thorn Blade

Cutter:
Wild Hunting Blade
Dread Venom Striker

Heavy:
Troika:
Sudaruska
Triglav
Sealed:
Divine Avenger
Gran Faust

____________________________________________________________

Gun:

______________________________

Standard:
Blaster

Autogun:
Autogun

Alchemer:
Firotech Alchemer
Cryotech Alchemer
Voltech Alchemer
Prismatech Alchemer
Shadowtech Alchemer

Catalyzer:
Catalyzer

Pulsar:
Pulsar

______________________________

Standard:
Super Blaster

Autogun:
Needle Shot
Toxic Needle
Pepperbox

Alchemer:
Firotech Alchemer Mk II
Cryotech Alchemer Mk II
Voltech Alchemer Mk II
Prismatech Alchemer Mk II
Shadowtech Alchemer Mk II

Catalyzer:
Industrial Catalyzer
Toxic Catalyzer

Pulsar:
Heavy Pulsar
Kilowatt Pulsar

Antigua:
Antigua

Magnus:
Magnus

______________________________

Standard:
Master Blaster

Autogun:
Strike Needle
Blight Needle
Fiery Pepperbox

Alchemer:
Firo Driver
Cyro Driver
Volt Driver
Prisma Driver
Shadow Driver

Catalyzer:
Volatile Catalyzer
Virulent Catalyzer

Pulsar:
Radiant Pulsar
Gigawatt Pulsar

Antigua:
Silversix
Blackhawk

Magnus:
Mega Magnus

______________________________

Standard:
Valiance

Autogun:
Blitz Needle
Plague Needle
Volcanic Pepperbox

Alchemer:
Magma Driver
Hail Driver
Storm Driver
Nova Driver
Umbra Driver

Catalyzer:
Neutralizer
Biohazard

Pulsar:
Supernova
Polaris

Antigua:
Argent Peacemaker
Sentenza

Magnus:
Callahan
Iron Slug

____________________________________________________________

Bomb:

______________________________

Standard:
Blast Bomb
Spine Cone

Vaporizer:
Haze Bomb
Fiery Vaporizer
Freezing Vaporizer
Toxic Vaporizer
Static Capacitor

Crystal:
Crystal Bomb

______________________________

Standard:
Super Blast Bomb
Deconstructor
Twisted Spine Cone

Vaporizer:
Haze Bomb Mk II
Fiery Vaporizer Mk II
Freezing Vaporizer Mk II
Toxic Vaporizer Mk II
Lightning Capacitor

Crystal:
Sun Shards
Rock Salt Bomb

Suction:
Graviton Charge
Electron Charge
______________________________

Standard:
Master Blast Bomb
Irontech Bomb
Heavy Deconstructor
Spike Shower

Vaporizer:
Haze Burst
Fiery Atomizer
Freezing Atomizer
Toxic Atomizer
Plasma Capacitor

Crystal:
Radiant Sun Shards
Ionized Salt Bomb

Suction:
Graviton Bomb
Electron Bomb

______________________________

Standard:
Nitronome
Big Angry Bomb
Irontech Destroyer
Dark Briar Barrage

Vaporizer:
Stagger Storm
Ash of Agni
Shivermist Buster
Venom Veiler
Voltaic Tempest

Suction:
Graviton Vortex
Electron Vortex
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Tue, 04/24/2012 - 17:43

Juances

I woudl suggest to just play with wiki pages then post a link here. More appeling visually and easier to handle.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 17:48

Mk-Vl

@Luguiru

Weapons mechanics are something I'll add in later. Right now it's a work in progress but yes mechanics will have to play a part because for my section where I'm going to link other suggestions alot of people are suggesting new mechanics cough**cough**Kentard**cough so I'll have to find where those fit.

Also I am only doing the end game right now because the smaller versions of these line work in generally the same way and usually do the same type of damage.

But thanks for the ideas!

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 17:50

Mk-Vl

@Juances

I have no clue how to work with the wiki :( although when I get time I will be linking things there. I just wanted everything to be in one place.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 17:58

#10

Luguiru

"How to classify bombs?"

Only a real bomber can answer that.

For Wiki pages, use "http://wiki.spiralknights.com/{item_name_with_these_underscores_between_words}" as the URL with proper capitalization; "Ash of Agni" is "Ash_of_Agni".

Recoloring an existing weapon and changing its damage is far simpler than picking up the tent and running off with new mechanics.

Categorization is fairly self explanatory. I intentionally left out the Seerus weapons, Fang of Vog, and dead end (1*) lines.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 19:44

#11

Stane

fang of vog

just a tip for re-edit here...fang of vog isn't really fast at all. I know it may seem like it because it's shaped like a striker, but truth is it's a medium speed weapon. In fact when I use it...it seems to be even slower than my glacius, but that might just be me. Also you could probably add the Antigua under the piercing 6 shot section.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 19:57

#12

Luguiru

Fang of Vog

I would classify it as standard due to its attack pattern, and you are right about the attack speed; it is slower, somewhat between standard and heavy, or similar to Spur. Yes, I have it, so I would know.

Mark six is making an index based on the highest star rank, mine is all lines which upgrade from 2*+ to 4/5*.

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 08:12

#13

Mk-Vl

Bloop

de doop

Tue, 05/01/2012 - 15:40

#14

Blandaxt

Like :)

i like this idea to have an encyclopedia that shows the weapon types and their mechanics. when your done with the list, i hope you can post this as a wiki page.

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