Before you suggest a new weapon read here
Mar, 04/24/2012 - 15:00
Give me a day or so to finish but what i am starting right now is a catalog of existing end game weapons by type. I am hoping to use this to show what is needed in the game and what we already have. at first i'm going to just put in everything but i'm going to add links to wikis etc later
WORK IN PROGRESS comments appreciated
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finished swords V1.0
Starting with guns
No idea how to classify bombs yet
Guns V1.0 done
status items are next
Status V1.0 done
need chance and strength of electron vortex shock
bombs V1.0 done
FoV classification fixed
Bombs V2.0 done
Mar, 04/24/2012 - 17:13
#2
Guns
All mixes of types---------0
---PURE---
Normal-6 shot mag-------0
Normal-3 shot mag-------2
Valiance
Neutralizer
Supernova
Normal-2 shot mag-------2
Volcanic Pepperbox
Iron Slug
Elemental-6 shot mag-----1
Argent Peacemaker
Elemental-3 shot mag-----1
Polaris
Elemental-2 shot mag-----4
Magma Driver
Storm Driver
Nova Driver
Hail Driver
Shadow-6 shot mag-------1
Sentenza
Shadow-3 shot mag-------1
Biohazard
Shadow-2 shot mag-------1
Umbra Driver
Piercing-6 shot mag-------0
Piercing-3 shot mag-------0
Piercing-2 shot mag-------3
Blitz Needle
Plague Needle
Callahan
Lun, 04/30/2012 - 08:21
#3
Bombs
DPS focused bombs
Normal
Big Angry Bomb
Nitrome
Irontech Destroyer
Heavy Deconstuctor 4*
Ionized Salt Bomb 4*
Piercing
Dark Briar Barrage
Ionized Salt Bomb 4*
Radiant Sun Shards 4*
Shadow
Dark Retribution
Elemental
Radiant Sun Shards 4*
Support Bombs
Ash of Agni
Shivermist Buster
Stagger Storm
Venom Veiler
Voltaic Tempest
Graviton Vortex
Electron Vortex
Mar, 04/24/2012 - 17:43
#4
Status caused
(Chance of causing status;Strength of status caused)
Shock-----------------------------------------------6
Polaris (good;moderate)
Storm Driver (good;moderate)
Voltedge (good+;strong)
Voltaic Tempest (good;minor)
Electron Vortex (chance)
Ionized Salt Bomb 4* (good;moderate)
Stun-------------------------------------------------4
Callahan (good;moderate)
Sudaruska (fair+;moderate)
Fearless Rigadoon (slight;moderate)
Stagger Storm (good;minor)
Curse-----------------------------------------------1
Gran Faust (fair;strong)(selfchance+;*)
Fire-------------------------------------------------6
Magma Driver (good;moderate)
Volcanic Pepperbox (slight;moderate)
Fang of Vog (good;strong) (selfchance;verystrong**)
Furious Flamberge (fair+;moderate)
Combuster (good+;strong)
Ash of Agni (good;minor)
Poison----------------------------------------------4
Biohazard (good;moderate)
Plague Needle (slight;strong)
Dread Venom Striker (slight;strong)
Venom Veiler (good;minor)
Freeze----------------------------------------------4
Hail Driver (good;moderate)
Triglav (slight;strong)
Glacius (good+;strong)
Shivermist Buster (good;minor)
*Strength of self inflicted curse is not known. Since with no resistance curse time = 43sec it is assumed to be very strong.
**According to the Wiki FoV the self inflicted fire is slightly stronger than the fire inflicted on enemies which is why I appointed it the strength of very strong.
+Only on charge.
Mar, 04/24/2012 - 15:02
#5
placeholder
work in suggestions by others
Mar, 04/24/2012 - 18:03
#6
Mind if I take a look inside the barn
You may want to divide weapons by star rank and mechanics; for example, vaporizer and standard bombs are different, but do we need more standard or vaporizer mechanics? I can whip up an index of weapon lines, excluding the dead ends (done at 1* or 3*), with consistent upgrade paths. You are trying to organize them by damage type and clip size; I am not going to address how bombs have no categorization.
This is weapon mechanics, not damage.
Sword:
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2*
Rapier:
Flourish
Snarble Barb
Cutter:
Cutter
Spur:
Spur
Heavy:
Troika
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3*
Standard:
Calibur:
Temepred Calibur
Brandish:
Nightblade
Shockburst Brandish
Fireburst Brandish
Iceburst Brandish
Cautery Sword
Rapier:
Flourish:
Swift Flourish
Rigadoon
Flamberge
Snarble Barb:
Twisted Snarble Barb
Cutter:
Striker
Spur:
Arc Razor
Heavy:
Troika:
Kamarin
Grintovec
Sealed:
Sealed Sword
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4*
Standard:
Calibur:
Ascended Calibur
Cold Iron Carver
Brandish:
Boltbrand
Blazebrand
Blizzbrand
Rapier:
Flourish:
Grand Flourish
Daring Rigadoon
Fierce Flamberge
Snarble Barb:
Dark Thorn Blade
Cutter:
Hunting Blade
Vile Striker
Spur:
Winmillion
Heavy:
Khorovod
Jalovec
Avenger
Faust
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5*
Standard:
Calibur:
Leviathan Blade
Cold Iron Vanquisher
Brandish:
Acheron
Voltedge
Combuster
Glacius
Rapier:
Flourish:
Final Flourish
Fearless Rigadoon
Furious Flamberge
Snarble Barb:
Barbarous Thorn Blade
Cutter:
Wild Hunting Blade
Dread Venom Striker
Heavy:
Troika:
Sudaruska
Triglav
Sealed:
Divine Avenger
Gran Faust
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Gun:
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2*
Standard:
Blaster
Autogun:
Autogun
Alchemer:
Firotech Alchemer
Cryotech Alchemer
Voltech Alchemer
Prismatech Alchemer
Shadowtech Alchemer
Catalyzer:
Catalyzer
Pulsar:
Pulsar
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3*
Standard:
Super Blaster
Autogun:
Needle Shot
Toxic Needle
Pepperbox
Alchemer:
Firotech Alchemer Mk II
Cryotech Alchemer Mk II
Voltech Alchemer Mk II
Prismatech Alchemer Mk II
Shadowtech Alchemer Mk II
Catalyzer:
Industrial Catalyzer
Toxic Catalyzer
Pulsar:
Heavy Pulsar
Kilowatt Pulsar
Antigua:
Antigua
Magnus:
Magnus
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4*
Standard:
Master Blaster
Autogun:
Strike Needle
Blight Needle
Fiery Pepperbox
Alchemer:
Firo Driver
Cyro Driver
Volt Driver
Prisma Driver
Shadow Driver
Catalyzer:
Volatile Catalyzer
Virulent Catalyzer
Pulsar:
Radiant Pulsar
Gigawatt Pulsar
Magnus:
Mega Magnus
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5*
Standard:
Valiance
Autogun:
Blitz Needle
Plague Needle
Volcanic Pepperbox
Alchemer:
Magma Driver
Hail Driver
Storm Driver
Nova Driver
Umbra Driver
Catalyzer:
Neutralizer
Biohazard
Antigua:
Argent Peacemaker
Sentenza
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Bomb:
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2*
Standard:
Blast Bomb
Spine Cone
Vaporizer:
Haze Bomb
Fiery Vaporizer
Freezing Vaporizer
Toxic Vaporizer
Static Capacitor
Crystal:
Crystal Bomb
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3*
Standard:
Super Blast Bomb
Deconstructor
Twisted Spine Cone
Vaporizer:
Haze Bomb Mk II
Fiery Vaporizer Mk II
Freezing Vaporizer Mk II
Toxic Vaporizer Mk II
Lightning Capacitor
Crystal:
Sun Shards
Rock Salt Bomb
Suction:
Graviton Charge
Electron Charge
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4*
Standard:
Master Blast Bomb
Irontech Bomb
Heavy Deconstructor
Spike Shower
Vaporizer:
Haze Burst
Fiery Atomizer
Freezing Atomizer
Toxic Atomizer
Plasma Capacitor
Crystal:
Radiant Sun Shards
Ionized Salt Bomb
Suction:
Graviton Bomb
Electron Bomb
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5*
Standard:
Nitronome
Big Angry Bomb
Irontech Destroyer
Dark Briar Barrage
Vaporizer:
Stagger Storm
Ash of Agni
Shivermist Buster
Venom Veiler
Voltaic Tempest
Suction:
Graviton Vortex
Electron Vortex
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Mar, 04/24/2012 - 17:43
#7
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I woudl suggest to just play with wiki pages then post a link here. More appeling visually and easier to handle.
Mar, 04/24/2012 - 17:48
#8
@Luguiru
Weapons mechanics are something I'll add in later. Right now it's a work in progress but yes mechanics will have to play a part because for my section where I'm going to link other suggestions alot of people are suggesting new mechanics cough**cough**Kentard**cough so I'll have to find where those fit.
Also I am only doing the end game right now because the smaller versions of these line work in generally the same way and usually do the same type of damage.
But thanks for the ideas!
Mar, 04/24/2012 - 17:50
#9
@Juances
I have no clue how to work with the wiki :( although when I get time I will be linking things there. I just wanted everything to be in one place.
Mar, 04/24/2012 - 17:58
#10
"How to classify bombs?"
Only a real bomber can answer that.
For Wiki pages, use "http://wiki.spiralknights.com/{item_name_with_these_underscores_between_words}" as the URL with proper capitalization; "Ash of Agni" is "Ash_of_Agni".
Recoloring an existing weapon and changing its damage is far simpler than picking up the tent and running off with new mechanics.
Categorization is fairly self explanatory. I intentionally left out the Seerus weapons, Fang of Vog, and dead end (1*) lines.
Mar, 04/24/2012 - 19:44
#11
fang of vog
just a tip for re-edit here...fang of vog isn't really fast at all. I know it may seem like it because it's shaped like a striker, but truth is it's a medium speed weapon. In fact when I use it...it seems to be even slower than my glacius, but that might just be me. Also you could probably add the Antigua under the piercing 6 shot section.
Mar, 04/24/2012 - 19:57
#12
Fang of Vog
I would classify it as standard due to its attack pattern, and you are right about the attack speed; it is slower, somewhat between standard and heavy, or similar to Spur. Yes, I have it, so I would know.
Mark six is making an index based on the highest star rank, mine is all lines which upgrade from 2*+ to 4/5*.
Lun, 04/30/2012 - 08:12
#13
Bloop
de doop
Mar, 05/01/2012 - 15:40
#14
Like :)
i like this idea to have an encyclopedia that shows the weapon types and their mechanics. when your done with the list, i hope you can post this as a wiki page.
Normal/elemental-fast--------------------0
Normal/elemental-med-------------------4
Glacius
Combuster
Voltedge
Fang of Vog
Normal/elemental-slow-------------------1
Divine Avenger
Normal/shadow-fast-----------------------0
Normal/shadow-med----------------------1
Acheron
Normal/shadow-slow----------------------1
Gran Faust
Normal/piercing-fast-----------------------0
Normal/piercing-med----------------------0
Normal/piercing-slow----------------------0
---PURE---
Normal-fast---------------------------------3
Wild Hunting Blade
Dread Venom Striker
Winmillion 4*
Normal-med--------------------------------3
Leviathan Blade
Scissor Blades
Cold Iron Vanquisher
Normal-slow--------------------------------2
Sudaruska
Triglav
Elemental-fast------------------------------0
Elemental-med-----------------------------0
Elemental-slow-----------------------------1
Warmaster Rocket Hammer
Shadow-fast--------------------------------0
Shadow-med-------------------------------0
Shadow-slow-------------------------------0
Piercing-fast--------------------------------4
Final Flourish
Furious Flamberge
Fearless Rigadoon
Barbarous Thorn Blade
Piercing-med-------------------------------0
Piercing-slow-------------------------------0