blame yourself for being a gambling addict.

I agree with Batabii a bit.

EDIT: Wow, either my new Internet sucks Bawlz or you're so Mad that you can Post 3 Times before anyone else can.

Although I slightly agree on the UV locking thing. (It did ruin the UV market. To be honest, but I never was into amazing UVs) You're pretty much saying that you're angry because you no longer can stroke your ego on your amazing gear. It's still luck based.

Honestly, I would't have sold my Piercing Max Skolver Cap if I knew this was coming. But you just have to deal with it. (Much like Auto-Aim in Lockdown)

Although I'm not defending OOO, you also have to remember that Spiral Knights isn't their only game. They're probably working on Doctor Who still. Sega isn't paying them for nothing.

Like I said though, I'm not supporting them, just neutral party here.

Ok, you get this update to, rolling with these cheaper prices will earn you back the money you spent. People never complained when punches price were lowered, why should they now?

UVs were intended to be a crown sink, now they are. Yes, I agree it should've been like this since the begining. Yes, you have the right to be upset. No, it is not worth ranting ON AND ON about. You have stated your opinion already. That is enough. My advice? Take a break from SK for a while, wait until there is a few major content patches, then come back and enjoy it.

Take a break. Come back. Enjoy.

"They continually F*** their best customers to pander to the masses."

Um... yes. Yes they do. Because selling a little bit to a great many people is a more sound money-making policy than making sure a few customers pay a great deal.

Look at yourself right now for an example of why catering to the best customers is a bad idea. You're jarate'd off at OOO for making a decision you think is horrible. You're threatening to leave and not pay OOO any more of your money. But here's the kicker: Even if you've put $200 into this game, or $300 or $400, you're still less valuable to OOO than 100 people who've put in $5. So why should they try and please you (one of their "best" customers) when it's easier and more profitable to please the masses? Especially when one considers how touchy you and other such high-paying players are about things.

Not a day goes by on these forums where someone doesn't weep and gnash about how all the money they've spent has become worthless. People who bought recipes awarded by missions before the mission system came out got shafted. Older knights who paid for a short/tall modifier before those features were implemented on new characters got shafted. And now you've been shafted. Shafted for more? Oh sure. Lots more. More than I've seen in my wallet. But here's the deal, chap: You aren't special. I'm not special. NO ONE is special. Doesn't matter if you've spent a thousand dollars on this game - leave, and you will be replaced by others more willing to spend and swallow what's given to them.

f it all. lets discuss OOOs debauchery. they don't care about the individual, so why should the individual care about them. here are excerpts from support tickets.

we had this beauty

OOO: "when other companies develop their products further (say, a car company making a feature like ABS brakes standard where it was a paid option before), do you consider that to be a good thing, or do you consider it "screwing over" people who'd previously purchased cars from them and either not had that option or paid for it?"

i blasted through this stupid straw man with

"Nice analogy,
But i don't see that transmuting UV's is going to save lives and make the world a safer, better place. " Thanks for playing.

in relation to the new UV ability

OOO: "Hi! I'm sorry to hear you're upset. This is a feature that we had had requests for (for instance, statements indicating that it wasn't currently possible were responses to people asking if they could do it). While, at the time, it wasn't something which could be done, it now is, and will remain so for the future of the game. "

my opinion: this is blatant blessing lie. They could have easily said "o yo, you are so right. let us edit that and make them transmutable. thanks all, for you glorious feedback!!" this not possible at the time. what a crock of (something other then bless). what the bless. such bull not bless. no no. this is the way it is. this is the way it will be. deal with it. 3-6months later, on second thought, break out your credit cards, we changed our mine. All you who participated in the previous system be damned (word not filtered on game, so i am safe, i think). Money grab is on. Break out your credit card. F triple o ck. [frell] you who played under the old system. we are in the money machine, and we are grabbing the flying dollars. f - OOO anyone who cares, or supported us before. its all us, all the time, all now.

Hate the game = Stop playing immediately. Get off the computer, and do something. If you're raging this much, you know you're badly addicted. If you hate the customer service RAGE SOMEWHERE, but not here. Some people are getting angry at you. It's about the players, but OOO's running the show from the top dollar down.

Well if a patch doesn't make sense when it comes out (usually half designed/finished), it will make sense in retrospect when the rest of it comes out.
That's what I've learned from this game, not a single feature they implement is ever actually finished, and they just add it in the game to make it look like they're doing something.
The quality/profitability of the update usually depends on whether or not it gets taken out in a subsequent patch or left in and added to six months later.
It's a poor business model to make a terrible game even worse by releasing unfinished updates then saying something 'wasn't possible' in retrospect and adding it without warning.

when other companies develop their products further (say, a car company making a feature like ABS brakes standard where it was a paid option before), do you consider that to be a good thing, or do you consider it "screwing over" people who'd previously purchased cars from them and either not had that option or paid for it?

You can't use an analogy like ABS brakes being made standard on a car you purchased where they were previously an extra, because the car had brakes for free.
This is more like paying for a three course meal and having to pay repeatedly until you get the whole three course meal you want, then the restaurant adding in the ability to choose your meals by course afterwards.
First of all, who the hell would eat at a restaurant like that? And second of all, if a customer using the old system is still eating their meal and sees somebody get the new option, they're going to feel ripped off and go to the ombudsman about it.

Just because it's a game and they can't sue you for it, doesn't mean it's okay to do it.
But I suppose through all of your other failures of games you haven't learned a damn thing.

its the sense they make that is so egregious in nature. the supple depot.....made perfect sense. some few players were making a killing off the reselling of 5* gear. so they made the supply depot to end any player to player profits. perfect sense, shady as hell purpose.

lol. posted too soon, or at least before finishing your post. above remains the same. but yeah. agree with your point fully.

You have a right and a valid reason to be upset over the change, but it doesn't make it a bad change.

Going Shoebox's restaurant analogy, he even said that the old restaurant design was bad, and nobody should have eaten at a restaurant like that. However, some people did and they got a meal they wanted. Then, the restaurant realized their design was horrible and decided to make it better so more people would eat at it. This makes the restaurant a better place, and more people will probably try it and the restaurant will get more than three or four returning customers that eat there every meal. Is the restaurant a bad restaurant because it wanted to improve its services?

treat others as you want to be treated.

i'll say this. pawn rolled for gear. i sold for profit. after 6 months. this is where the dust settled.

Pawn=2m crowns 20k ce. best gear on the game. sacrificed mass profits for best gear on the game. happy to do so.
Rommil=- 20m crowns. 100k ce. single maxed UV. i sold for max profit, sacrificing triple rolls, and thus average gear on game.

soooo. pawn gladly sacrificed profit, but ground, collected, and hustled, and over the course of the game, and an amazing level of luck, managed to arguably the best gear on the game. clap.

then they make this update, and within 10 mins 5 rich walleter's surpass him. (all in jempire and nightmare newho).

so. treat others as you want to be treated, the golden rule, right? so OOO p!ssed on pawn, not so surprising he chooses to piss back on them. is what it is.

And comparing a lack of empathy for you and your lot in Spiral Knights to a general humanity-wide lack of empathy, responsible for the worst atrocities? What's next, someone triggers Godwin's Law?

If they had known of the changes they were going to make to UVs a year ago, which is about when you said you started rolling/merchanting for rolls, then they probably would have implemented Punch with the locking system in the first place.

EDIT: Yay, now I can tell the difference between Pawn and Rommil's posts! ^_^

This is a feature that we had had requests for (for instance, statements indicating that it wasn't currently possible were responses to people asking if they could do it).

Keep in mind, this was after you could choose to lock UVs on items when upgrading them.
Which means it was possible well before they added the feature.

It's just a money grab aimed at the people they're going to be trying to bring in with the new rescue camp and supply depot updates.
Not to mention the character customisation updates, where people get hundreds of thousands of crowns of free customisation options and accessories for free. Right from the start of the game.

Yeh, I know Pawn. It hurts terribly. So much time wasted. I get it I get it. But you have the stuff, no? And you have a chance to make BETTER stuff, no? You wasted so much time once this thing rolled in. I'm not angry at you leaving. I'm angry at you "throwing plates and pots" and this anger that helps you alleviate the problem. Once a monopoly, now a norm. It kills. Thanks for not barking at me misunderstanding, but I really want you to stay. And any other quitters. These updates are not for us, but for new guys coming in. Yes, even the beggars. Even the ones that take 5 minutes to type. Even the ones who are going to take your place. OOO may be shedding its old coat, but the persistent will be best known. They are "rebalancing" the economy bit by bit. IS it fully unfolded? No. Will it hurt? Yes. Take up the reins of a new economy, or tear them apart. Tearing anything will not help the cause. You're prestigious, and it's gonna hurt the playerbase. But as long as OOO keeps putting out new updates, it's barely a dent, or a scratch. Will you sell hate for convincing all the newbies to join your rally? How will they know? Rommil explained the plague. I'd say ride a new wave. But you know, I'm not you nor am in your position.

For the majority of players, UV locking is an improvement. It enables us to get that which was previously a dream. Does it cheapen those uber 3-max UV weapons? Yes, yes it does. Does it make all those crowns chaps like you spent on Punch rolling wasted effort? Not all of them, but certainly a great deal, of not a majority. Do we feel for you? Of course we do. Just because I didn't spend those crowns doesn't mean I don't understand how ticked off you are. I get it, it's infuriating. But when you demand that these changes be undone specifically for your betterment, at the cost of the larger playerbase, or when you insist that OOO is targeting you in order to screw you over? My empathy for you flies out the window.

So you admit the only reason you're angry is because you can no longer be the special snowflake?