We need more energy sinks

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Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Seeing as to that I don't need to craft any more equipment really, yet still want to assist in needlessly making the price of CE rise, I'm going to need a use for the energy I'm buying. I don't know why, but it feels good knowing that I'm raising the price of energy for the next person who needs to buy energy. Making more energy sinks will be good for the game because it will make you more money, and if you get more money, you'll be able to hire extra team members so that you can make more content at a respectable rate.

Currently, the player base has a ton of people that will leave just as fast if you make them buy 100 energy with 22K as they currently already are. These are players who don't really do much but hang out in Haven with their already good gear- if they had a bigger energy sink, they'd buy more from you. And why make them sell it for crowns? Why should they work and put their money into letting other people make gear at a reduced rate? Reward them for giving you their energy, not new players who want to play the game for free. The end game consists of seeing who can bid the most on things like auras, and other "rare accessories". If the price of energy was driven up substantially, it would allow for the wealthy P2P player to make larger bids, which would not only make them look far more boss-like, set new records in terms of placing a bid, but would also mean that these items would appear to be rising in value, as they would have larger numbers by them. This would allow for you to make less promotional items for people, and for those that you do make to be more valued.

Another thing that this helps is the situation with new players. New players beg, and are bad on runs when you decide to go on them. If we raise the price of energy, we'll cut these beggars off- and keep the community small and tidy. You know, consisting of the people who spam smiley faces in general, as opposed to the ones who ask for stuff and complain about the game being greedy etc. Speaking of people who spam smiley faces and sit in haven and do everything spiral knights related except play spiral knights, we need more of that. When I go into Haven, it makes the player base look much larger when I see everyone sitting around talking by the Auction House. Even if it is only a few rich players, it gives people something to strive for. Given the price of energy, it will take F2Pers quite a while to get to the level of those bearing end game items like accessories and unnecessarily high UVs.

The best part of this is the players who try to fight it. They post things like "Enrg 2 hi" in general, which gives the regular forum goers someone to make fun of once in a while, or should the price of energy be constantly rising, every day almost. I love watching as people's dreams of getting gear and having fun while not grinding for hours get crushed in front of my eyes, it makes me feel better, as I have a low self-esteem. That being said, my favorite part of this is when they try to understand the economy incorrectly, and suggest something strange like breaking the CE depot. And then watching them give up and leave is pretty good too- I even get some free stuff from that. Ooh, and as a side note, you should push the danger missions back a month or two and have like 5 more CE promotions. I love seeing the rich P2Pers delve into fashion, as well as trying it on in the Auction House. And besides, CE promotions are such a great compromise for everyone- you guys get more money, and the players get more end game content.

Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
Not sure if sarcasm

It could be the giant-sandwich-lethargy, but I am completely unable to tell whether this is sarcasm or serious.

Demonicsothe's picture
Demonicsothe
Troll or not

+1

Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Nope, its not sarcastic, the tone is definitely serious. Nor is this post sarcastic, in case you're about to ask that next.

Toxicblade's picture
Toxicblade
Derp

Fehzor, was the part in that post posting that the post is not sarcastic actually sarcasm?

Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

I'm not going to answer that.

Aureate's picture
Aureate
Processing Thoughts of You Always

reverse trolling is genius

but to be more srs, we need more cr sinks.

Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
Snort

Faucets these days can be seen as the bathroom.

"you should push the danger missions back a month or two and have like 5 more CE promotions"

This is definitely sarcastic. Unless Fehzor has been getting drunk lately. Unless I have been drinking lately.

Strangerdan's picture
Strangerdan
Good point

Craft high level items, trade for new weapons in the Pyromania update. There's your CE sink right there.

Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

@Aureate No, I'm not trolling you. If I were trolling, I wouldn't have written half as much.

@Luguiru No, the tone of that sentence was not sarcastic either. And I don't drink. In fact, I was not "out of it", or "high" or any other kind of terrible excuse when I wrote this.

@Strangerdan That doesn't destroy the energy though- it re-sends it through the system as that TF2 trader now does not have to buy the energy for his purchases. And I know you're thinking "A profit is a profit, right?" But no, you're wrong. I only like it if it destroys the CE, because then someone else doesn't get to use it and I can feel good knowing that I've made the price of energy rise.

Kitty-Softpaws's picture
Kitty-Softpaws
I agree with Luguiru ~.~

This sounds more like inflation than a solution. Most of my posts are similar to this but I'm never serious about them. They're pretty much irrelevant & it's just how I feel about certain things. The devs care for a balance between F2P & P2P than the economy status of this game & how it's badly affecting the players. The only solution I see that will fix SK's economical issues is if Three Rings went P2P & you just had to buy a Pass to enjoy all of the game's features thus removing energy & increasing crowns dropped & received as well as the removal of binding gear upon being crafted. Of course this would mean that end-game would be easier to reach & then Three Rings will have more complaints on there hands & will be saying bah bai to their customers.

Three Rings sees their game differently than we do. This game has changed in many ways because of the community.

Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

@Kitty-Softpaws
If the game were made entirely P2P it would basically cut off the F2Pers who are already set up- we want to keep them as slaves to the P2Pers so that the P2Pers will feel in control of the F2Pers who should barely be able to afford to play by farming the same 5 levels constantly... this will also help to keep the P2Pers buying energy. Speaking of which, all levels other than FSC should pay out a smaller amount of cr, while FSC should be buffed. This would allow for P2Pers to play what they want on epass, while F2Pers would have to play FSC.

Binding gear is a good energy sink, and if anything, the costs should be higher to prevent trading as well as make OOO more money. Trading high end items is bad for our economy, as it means that OOO is not getting energy, AKA money, from every single item obtained by players.

As I've said, the end game is buying items for large amounts of money, which benefits OOOs. The end game is and will always be easy for players with a wallet open and ready to jump into. The sky is the limits, until you hit the monthly pay wall of around 80 dollars. And if thats the sky for you, then maybe this isn't the game for you- unless you like FSC.

The game does not belong to the community, as the community's opinions are rarely reflected upon- the game belongs to the developers, and thats the way it should be. If it belonged to the community, the community wouldn't know what to do with it. They'd probably just spam smiley faces, or keep RSS the way it should be, or god forbid open the core while simultaneously adding in the tortodrone and fixing lockdown in mid October after finally fixing the iron slug like was promised. If the community got what it wanted, that would not fulfill our goal of making as much money as possible to fuel other attempts at games- like Dr. Who. After all, people are "leaving" this game, so why put time and effort into it?

Serell's picture
Serell
... You want P2P's to treat F2P's like slaves?

Oh wow.
Yeah, I"m sure any F2P would like to feel like a slave... NOT.
Troll is trolling.

Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

Seriously, I'm not trying to troll anyone with this. Trolling is "purposefully antagonizing people", and lacks a purpose. If you've read my comments on a number of threads you'd get this, although I don't really expect anyone to. I just like to write.

Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
Yurp

The gist seems to be what Three Rings is thinking rather than what is normally suggested by the community.

Knowing the kind of updates they have done recently, it is very likely this will be used for future updates.

Naru-Narusegawa's picture
Naru-Narusegawa
O_o

So How's those suggestions going?
Have they done anything to date?

Thought so-

Shue-Donnym's picture
Shue-Donnym
TechAlly you are an idiot

Following your logic I could go to any thread in the Suggestions forums- okay here's an example.
>go to Kentard's Equipment Project, a highly applauded and supported thread
>say what you said

Or:
>Go to that massive thread of guild hall thingies
>say what you said

Or even:
>Go to Luguiru's Great Wall of Text concerning balance and stuff, all completely legitimate and reasonable
>say what you said

But wait, there's more!!!
>Go to one of those great expansion ideas, like Crimson Express or Everfrost Valley or whatever
>say what you said

Or maybe I'm just expecting too much from an idiot who tries to be "funny" while spamming a picture of "Krogmo Krunch." It was about as funny as the time Daarke tried to pull an acrostics rickroll again.

Naru-Narusegawa's picture
Naru-Narusegawa
@ Pladypus

Just have a coke and smile and Wake up Bone head.

Really ? I'm the idiot, coming from someone with such a narrow mind, and blind as a bat to boot.

Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
What was that about fodder

Insult the whole subforum, claim misunderstanding.

I would rather have Bluebrawler around than you. At least he wanted to be competent.

Yes, they do use ideas here. Polyps. Howlitzers. Expansion. Missions. Balancing. Auction. Your existence is invalid.

Kitty-Softpaws's picture
Kitty-Softpaws
At above post ^

Kitty doesn't like this wanna be Shoebox. Fehzor is a proud member of the Softpaws Comittee. She's now part of one of SK's biggest secret organizations. You may call us terrorists of SK, or maybe stupid idiots who can't tell the difference between then & than, but whatever you people may say... we already know what we are. We are diplomats & we will keep enforcing diplomacy between the SK community & Three Rings. We make fair decisions that both can benefit, not bias ones.

Tohru-Adachi's picture
Tohru-Adachi
Lug, forgot something..

Danger missions, Snarbolax Set, Weapon buffs, harder lvs.

Luguiru's picture
Luguiru
Yurp

Those were just a few I could think of at the moment.

I was referring to the troll, not Fehzor. Hurp.