Yeah, those were really well drawn
Event: Draw a Guild Crest (winners posted!)
Thanks everyone & Aphrodite~
Congratulations to the other winers and my self \(' - ')/!
xDD am I the only one who his face is like " srsly?"
Looking at some of the winners is like the crests of #50 at #71 aren't good enough for this contest... lol
...Anyway... Was fun to make my crest and see all the drawings we have done (71 :33 )
I want another drawing contest~ :B
PD: x3 yeah what?
Gratz to the winning peeps! :)
What happened to "should only depict the crest", though?
Wow they are great. but some winners my was was like :/ are you serious? Lol. I had a great time and congrats to you guys! :P
None of those are my name.
This competition was rigged!
I demand a recount!
Can totally agree with first and second place, i wonder how the other four were chosen... @_@
Ok, I was just going to ignore these posts as they are clearly from bitter, sore losers, but its clearly getting out of hand and undermining the hard work, time, and dedication the winners put in to their crests.
Now, I realize that Aphrodite is a GM and she has to remain professional however, I am a player and I don't. So, since you're going judge the winners and share your opinions I guess I'll also do the same, as I'd like to think that I speak for most when I say some of you need a serious reality check. Before I address each one of you realize that some of you could have gotten disqualified for not sticking by the guidelines, also originally there were only supposed to be 2 winners, but Aphrodite stated there would be more depending on how many entered. Now I don't know how you feel, but I think she was pretty damn generous with the prize's considering she could have only had 5, 4, or only 3 winners, so thanks for that Aphrodite.
@Nuuvee
"xDD am I the only one who his face is like " srsly?"
Looking at some of the winners is like the crests of #50 at #71 aren't good enough for this contest... lol"
First of all, if you're trying to point out Naisha and your OWN crest, its #50 and #55, not #71.
Secondly, your entries are animated crest and with the character>
Did you read the rules, did you look through every post that Aphrodite made, or are you just a little slow? Not only did you enter 2 final pictures, but you also entered one that was animated and the other which didn't depict the crest. I wouldn't be surprised if you got disqualified. However, even if you didn't get D/Q'd I honestly don't see any reason as to why your crest would win over the creative and detailed designs of the winning crests & their descriptions, considering your crest's design is an imitation of the protocrest with the letters "banned" slapped across it. The only thing that makes your crest look "good" is the animated effect which wasn't allowed this in this event.
@Holybladex
"Wow they are great. but some winners my was was like :/ are you serious?"
Your entry was this.
You know, I'd say the exact same thing about your crest if you had won ":/ Are you serious? Lol." so, I'm not going to comment on this any farther.
@Naisha
"Can totally agree with first and second place, i wonder how the other four were chosen... @_@"
Your entry was this
Firstly, I HIGHLY doubt the winners are in any particular order, if they were I'd imagine Aphrodite would mention this.
Secondly, who are you to state that your crest is above Gobzilla's, Amayawolf's, Miabot's, and mine? I'd like to think most people would highly disagree with your statement. In fact, the fact that you didn't win this event proves it. Your crest is nothing but a shield with a poorly drawn image in the middle, that has the same exact feathers and gems copied and pasted on to the sides all the way down the crest, did you really expect to win with the LACK OF detail and creativity that the winners of this event put in to their crests? Your crest is as boring and bland as your photoshop capabilities.
@Incoherrant
"What happened to "should only depict the crest", though?"
If you're questioning Gobzilla's crest, then look again. While there is a knight standing next to it, the crest is clearly much larger, and IS the main focus of the image.
ecchi theres no need to be a prick with nuuve, you know, shes not SLOW, she just dont speak english very well, maybe she missed the part where they said no animations, actually i checked and that was in the middle of the topic
im commenting only this one cos i know her and i know she missed that detail, i missed it myself :B
and i agree with her, some of the crest arent exactly pretty, the only diference is that she participated and she might look like shes just jealous cos she lost, but she still can have an opinion, right?
nobody like smartasses dood, dont be one
damn i hate this forum everybody wants to be a freaking diva here
See thats exactly my point josh,
@Josh-Alvein
she might look like shes just jealous cos she lost, but she still can have an opinion, right?
The post I made, was my opinion, which I'm allowed just like everyone else. However, I think the excuse that she doesn't speak english very well is just that, an excuse, because that does not prevent her from asking questions or looking through the full thread, reading everything one by one, translating if need be. I read all the posts in every thread, including her entry, and her english seems pretty damn good. I went through every entry and description with a fine comb, and I even predicted the top contenders, as I discussed with my girlfriend who had a chance to win, and who was winning for sure, and who would be disqualified.
I think Aphrodite's choice were on point, she chose winners from each "category" so to be (hand drawn vs photoshop, 2d vs "3d", best vs worst and maybe even the age of the contestant meaning an accomplished adult in art/drawing/graphic design vs a 12 year old kid), in fact her being the judge of this event puts her in a position where she has to make difficult choices and follow her own event rules very strictly due to the fact there were so many entries.
None the less, I find it funny that you only come to Nuuvee's defense, because that was the only person you could choose to "debate" against me, as she had an "excuse" due to language barrier, so who here is the real smart ass? The only thing Nuuvee's "excuse" tells me is that, she wasn't very serious about the this event to do the necessary research. However I digress, because as I stated you totally skipped the other people who posted negative comments about the winners, because you had no excuse for their posts. Naisha for example states
"Can totally agree with first and second place, i wonder how the other four were chosen... @_@"
How is this ^ any different from what Nuuvee stated below?
"Looking at some of the winners is like the crests of #50 at #71 aren't good enough for this contest... lol
...Anyway... Was fun to make my crest and see all the drawings we have done (71 :33 )
Its not any different at all, it is a blatant remark against other crests / winners / Aphrodite's picks. She points out or rather attempts to point out her crest (which is actually #55 and not #71) and also points out Naisha's, so I think she has a pretty clear understanding of English, at least clear enough to get across the point that she believes Naisha's and her crest's are much better. In any case, I don't think I was being a smart ass or a diva, in fact I simply felt the bashing on Aphrodite's choices and winners had gone on long enough, and I think I was pretty professional in stating my opinion.
You say "no one likes a smartass dood" well, I don't think any of the people who posted negative comments about the winners crests / Aphrodite's picks, are making them self look any better, and if anyone is being a "Diva" its all the people posting negative comments and complaining that they should have won, because thats how Diva's act. While I realize that I bought my self down to their level by responding to them, it is something I chose to do knowingly, and would do all over again. So, if you still feel I was and am being a smart ass well then, I'd rather be a smart ass than a dumb ass.
When I used to host events, it was hard to judge alone, so I enlisted Eury and a few members of my guild to help pick their top 5-10 favorites. Not every favorite made the final cut.
The favorites had to be original, somewhat conform to the theme of the contest, and fun.
The top 5 in Aphrodite's contest demonstrated a respect for skill in different media (CAD, Manga, Comic, Color Pencil). Additionally, the descriptions of the winning entries were quite entertaining. The descriptions added an element of fun and love for the game.
Thank you for sponsoring this event, Aphrodite {^o^}
Warmest regards,
Raspberry
PS:
If I had to pick the most fun description, my vote would be for Shoebox.
I would have been hard pressed to pick a winner from all the great artwork alone.
honestly ecchi, TL;DR, got bored, and im not trying to act like the cool kid, i really dont feel like reading that much just to keep this going
the point is you have no right to call her names (like slow, that might sound like a small word but it can really hurt dood, and its simply a cheap insult so keep that stuff for yourself) you can disagree with her opinion but when you start your comment calling her slow you just lost the right to give us your enlightened opinion
and stop making such long post just to stand out, thats what i meant with the diva thing before, everyone here wants to stand out with posts like yours, thinking theyre cool for calling names and acting like theyre smarter than the rest of us :>
Since you wont show me the same respect I showed you in reading your post, I stopped reading yours after you said tl;dr too long.
*pulls out bucket of popcorn* Forum arguments are so fun to read!
Whats really funny is Josh-Alvein. You're ignoring all of Ecchi's logic & reason, and the only thing you're debating Ecchi on is him calling Nuuvee "slow" and that he has lost his right to enlighten us with his opinion, yet, you're calling him several names such as "diva","prick"and "smartass." No Josh, I would say that it is you who has lost the right to give us YOUR "enlightened" opinion, and I use the term enlightened very loosely in your case. It's pretty sad that you have to resort to trolling tactics to bait him in to continuing this debate, since I'm sure he isn't acting "smart" "cool" and "educated", but actually is. :>
another one dismembering my comment and analizing it, good work, you guys just keep trying to stand out
forum arguments are not fun, are dumb, im being dumb for participating i know :D
i dont read long arguments cos internet arguments go nowhere so i wont even try :>
and yes ecchi, i dont have respect for what you said for me you just another one around here trying to act smart to stand out and feel is an important part of a community, if we think this community is mostly made of 14 years old that doesnt sound like such an accomplishment, so yeah, like i said i wont even try :> i just felt hurt that you called her slow cos i know her well and i know shes anything but that :> you called her slow for not understanding something that in the end was just about she not being as good as english as you, even if you dont believe it, i dont care, so yeah, im not trying to explain you something, i just felt i had to say that
ok im not posting anymore here :> not like is going anywhere
u mad?
Need a towel for you buttsweats? Perhaps you need some Bengay for you buttpains? It must be messing with your brain because all you did was repeat everything and ignore logic! Way to bow out of a debate you're clearly losing!
*applauds*
Baww I lost.
I wish they had let me do a 3D render, I'm horrible at painting.
Nice work, Ecchi and Chicken, you e-killed a guy with nothing useful to say
And Tant, this is probably gonna confuse both of us
@Nuuvee
I've already stated all I wanted to, and I addressed those who I felt needed to be addressed, one of them being you. I didn't criticize anyone who didn't deserve it. So I will address you in sections, just as you did me.
Well… Excuuuuse me, Princess o_o
The only one acting like a princess here, is you.
The only one who could choose was Aphrodite, so my comment was for her O_o You just got here and you begin to criticize everyone, when no one was talking with you.
Seriously? No one was talking to me? No one was addressing and undermining the winning crests? No one made a direct remark about Aphrodite's last 4 choices? Well then, I guess Naisha, Holybladex, and you are no one.
"xDD am I the only one who his face is like " srsly?"
"Looking at some of the winners is like the crests of #50 at #71 aren't good enough for this contest... lol"
These two sentences from your comment, were CLEARLY not for Aphrodite, so I wont even bother commenting any farther, because the only thing you're doing is back peddling, and trying to make me look like that bad guy because I "misunderstood". Even if I did misunderstand I didn't say anything that the others I mentioned didn't deserve.
"Yeah, lol, the others are just so bored that day and made their crests like a mucus as they pulled out of their noses >_> like "anything"
Exactly my point, I purposely undermined your crest. It's exactly like you said, everyone, EVERYONE put in work to try and win this event, and whoever the winners were you, nor anyone else has any right to undermine their crest. So, I purposely undermined yours, Naisha, and Holybladex's crest to prove that point. I see that you understood it, now apply that logic to yourself, and stop posting comments that undermine the winners.
Tell the truth doesn't make me jealous. That's what I think, and I'm glad that if things aren't right people say it
That is also, exactly what I did. The stuff you, Naisha, and Holybladex said aren't "right", very bad sportsmanship in general, so I stepped up and said it, because no one else would.
- about 50-70:
I don`t know how to translate this :/ lol I Try later
Don't even care, this just sounds like some kind of convenient excuse that you use whenever it benefits you.
Not what freedoms you have me you start to criticize my crest?? (and the others! LOL) No idea ._. Nobody talk about you or comment your crest, But you can do~. I should take as offensive? tell me.
I love all the "logic" you're using against me, without applying it to your self first. It's like some kind of double standard? Please think before you type, you criticize the winners, I am one of the winners, so you're criticizing me, and that alone gives me the right to criticize your crest. Whether you take offense to it or not is none of my concern, but I can tell you now that my statement was to blatantly offend you. You know what they say, if you have nothing nice to say don't say it at all, so next time maybe just say "Congratulations, I had fun" and leave it at that.
I already wrote why I put two entries… currently are the same O_o But you want me to do a 1200x900 gif or something with 35 frames lmao
Well I didn't take them as the same because one was animated, and one wasn't, and my main point was to show that the one that wasn't animated didn't even depict the crest. No, I don't want you to do anything nor do I care, I just simply wanted you to accept you didn't win and not [scrap] post about the other winners.
The rule of non-animated wasn't in the Spanish rules, was mentioned only "out there" in English (like many others) And when I heard about this rule was too late to make a new crest. Just that.
Guess what? The rule wasn't in the English post either, it was down the thread around the middle. However, people asked questions, got answers, and people like me took the time to read post by post to make sure I stuck to the guidelines, so don't get mad at other people because you failed to do that, or someone failed to inform you, especially not the winners.
Sorry, you are quite right ... Maybe I should have tried harder, and make only one picture of a pencil drawing with my finger. Sorry to be a disappointment, and envy u.u
By the sarcastic tone I sense from this sentence, It tells me that you learned how it feels to be criticized by someone, so hopefully in the future you'll just accept the fact that you didn't win and move on.
I can tell you that I could have done better description, about my guild, but I just felt it was stupid and subjective.
You wrote a lot. a.l.o.t. when not necessary to… I don’t know if it was good or not, I did‘t read it ,but surely you won only because you wrote a Superpost, not by your drawing.
And this is the moment when you stop hallucinating about winning and stop comparing your picture with the other winners c:
If you won for you descripcion... fine uwu But for me that was a drawing contest, no writing. And that is my thinking and I keep it
For someone who doesn't understand or speak English very well, you sure type it really well. Subjective, now thats a pretty big word. I'll answer this with a quote from Raspberry. "Additionally, the descriptions of the winning entries were quite entertaining. The descriptions added an element of fun and love for the game." The description I added to my crest, related to my crest, I wanted my crest to have a background story, a bit of lore, I wanted it to really fit this game. Maybe the reason you couldn't write a better description about your guild, is because your crest was so plain you literally couldn't think of anything, or maybe your skills do not go beyond that of photoshop. If the whole world thought like you, we wouldn't have books, or stories, spiral knights would have no lore because its "stupid and subjective".
I included my description because it was a part of the contest, and I wanted those looking at my entry to have a fun story to read. Hey, maybe you thinking it was "stupid and subjective" cost you the win, cry about it. I'm not hallucinating at all, as I highly doubt I won due to my description alone, but whatever helps you sleep at night. I'm sure there are people out there who would agree that my crest was pretty well drawn, with more creativity than yours. Maybe if you were a little smarter, you could come up with the same conclusion I did, that Aphrodite chose the 4 top most photoshop crest, and the 2 top most hand drawn crests, because there were so many photoshop entries and so little hand drawn. Still, it's pretty interesting that you mention my description considering you don't understand English very well, yet seem to understand that I had a really good description that went along very well with my crest. Even more interesting that you are able to reply to my long post in this thread, so accordingly! Amazing!
I'm just going to tell you: You started writing personally at my crest, I'll just respond with your own currency ok? Maybe that was a little rude... Maybe that was the truth ...
That is exactly how I felt by your original post, even though I'm sure you will deny that it wasn't for anyone other than Aphrodite. This will be the last time I post in this thread, I'm not going to waste my time anymore. I've already gotten my point across and said what I had to say. I think anyone and everyone who has been reading thus far would agree that Naisha, Holybladex, and your self were most definitely undermining the winners, or at least stating that you disagree with Aphrodite's picks. The problem is the way you went about it, it was rude, and lacked tact, maybe next time you want to address Aphrodite, write her name so we all know you're talking to her. I still think you're just a bitter loser, acting like a princess who got called out by me, and is now back peddling saying the comment was for Aphrodite and no one else. I also think that you understand English just fine, and knew that animation wasn't allowed and still submitted it anyway thinking you'd win because you thought a little too highly of your self. Well, better luck next time.
In my opinion, Kentard's was better than the last two winners.
:o
You just write a megapost for me? really...? I can’t write quickly in English .... Thanks, welcome! will answer later maybe better. You should learn to summarize… owo
I'm a pretty princess >w< ! but well, I said that as a joke, by the meme and that, hehe :d
I didn’t say anything wrong; I said my point of view, like the others. The point of views are subjective and it's okay if you do not think like everyone else, but don’t expect much criticizing either :B Deal with it.
You can continue with what you do, to feel attacked by me and answer truths like accusations, or that I contradict myself. So when you are bored or something, as you want. Hoping that I gave you every reason. Amazing... Ego
You feel offended indirectly just because you wanted (because here nobody talk about echikun… what I call big ego, hear where they no call you, offend you alone) you use first the offense as a reason to criticize and then as a barrier "aay, are attacking me!" get to answer everyone and insult your work! Because "but! They started "
…what I think of your crest should not matter to you… I clarify if this won by the extensive/or good text!... for you to stop criticizing some other designs that easily, I think your drawing level could be more modest for now xD
you still there making the victim and feel bad because -only you- said, and make us understand, that your crest is bad.
People will say what he wants... you can keep criticizing everyone, tell them that their crest are nothing, bored them with your tocho-post… D8
…You take as attack everything they tell you… lol You should go to DeviantArt
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HO, I forgot... for you: I found something funny that the winners were from post number 2 at post number 50 ... these are the first page. And on the second page were the number 51 to 71 no winner. Caught my attention, in the last 4 days were many new crest, and as a rule, very worked. I found it weird, and made me worry if something was wrong. only that e.e ok? less drama
(wow seriously now ... you don’t quote me, just say, lol)
*Finishes jumbo bucket of popcorn*
Whoa there, Nuuvee. I wasn't going to reply to you because trying to figure out what you typed hurts my head, but I woke up this today and saw that you edited your post from yesterday and changed everything you wrote bout me, from a whole paragraph down to 1 sentence, hah! I wonder if its cause you didn't want people to see that your understanding of English is actually good, I mean you called me a troll and cancer and all these other things. I'd say you understood my posts just fine, because just like Ecchi-kun said you replied very accordingly! Ecchi-kun didn't say anything wrong either, he said his point of view, and point of views are subjective and its ok if you don't think like everyone else, but don't expect much criticizing either, :B deal with it. I would say the one who has an "amazing ego" is you, considering you and the others instead of just being good sports about it, you guys diva it up and complain about winning crests.
Are you stupid? Ecchi-Kun felt indirectly offended because he actually WAS indirectly offended, you and holybladex indirectly offended the winners, Naisha did it pretty directly, so what do you mean when you say no one is talking about Ecchi-kun? You really are slow. xD The only crests Ecchi-kun criticized belong to the people who criticized the winners, and I'd say you deserved it, and he didn't really make any remarks that wasn't true, maybe you're the one who should go to DeviantArt and take Naisha with you because clearly you 2 princess's can't handle the fact that y'all lost. You know Ecchi is right, you seem to understand english just fine, I think you were just too damn lazy to look through every post that Aphrodite made, because if you understand Ecchi and I, there is no reason you couldn't understand the rules. So, the only thing that says is that you didn't go that extra mile to make sure you didn't get disqualified. You know what though, I'm glad it turned out like that because I wouldn't want such a snob like you to win in the first place. OwO
I'm going to follow Ecchi's example and wash my hands of this because it really isn't worth my time or effort. 9w9
In true SK Forum fashion, we have taken something fun and turned it into a giant argument. Congratulations everyone.
And then real congratulations to the winners. Pretty awesome concept pieces!
I'll keep this short: the reason Ecchi and Achicken are writing to you is because you chose to belittle (read: put down) other winners. While I may have a different opinion than Aphrodite does on who the winners should be, insulting those winners, or expressing your disbelief that they were chosen is tantamount to saying they sucked. This may not be what you intended, but this is how the community as a whole saw it.
I side with Ecchi and Achicken on this debate. I loved your crest, Nuuvee, even though it was animated, but again, that is my opinion. The crest my guild submitted didn't win either, and it was pretty darn good, IMO. That being said, i will NOT belittle anyone's submissions, at least on a public forum, because that is poor sportsmanship.
Congrats to the winners, and Ecchi, on behalf of everyone who's entries may not have been amazing, or artful or anything, thank you for coming to our defense. No one should have their hard work mocked by someone who's skills may be superior.
Perronius:
Sorry, my intention wasn’t to insult the work of others, in this case the winners. I wanted to support the idea that the average of the crest were very good, and some of the winners surprised me a bit. Not saying they were bad (as an insult), I mean: That one draw better than you does not make you worse, but it still needs to improve. But yes, I think overall crest had some drawing skills better than others. And this is a contest after all.
I just wanted to say my idea, not attacking anyone.
I'm glad you like c: Thank you. And really I do not complain about anything. If it was disqualified because it was my mistake and its right. And that is what should be. I'm happy with my crest, and constructive criticism are welcome.
I really didn’t want a fight, but I dont feel right that drawing criticism are seen as insults. Or that I have envy. Constructive criticism are to improve. Nobody is perfect and I support humility and minds open to art. It is a contest like many others who participated and we can talk about these things without drama
Thanks you so much. your comment was very nice~
Achicken:
If you want I can answer you better later. But you could comment with best intentions, without fighting or attack/insult me personally. Perronius was very nice and polite with me
*gives her some popcorn*
Achicken:
You're right, sorry :/, I wasn’t supposed to insult you without talking with you. I edit because you could misunderstand. And what I said was "an attitude like cancer on the Internet", “insulting quickly and make a fight that brings more fights” ……. now I think I'd better not edited that, sorry for insult...
what you say is again what Echikun said, Displaying attacks in everything I say, like getting fight to a comment that was not for him. Speaking of nothing, only fending off the attack he wants to see. Reading what he wants.
I just commented that my English may be bad (a translator help me a lot), and may misunderstood. I apologize for that, I dont know where you have to make a fight of it.
If I misunderstandings rules is my total fault, my problem, and the only one to worry about it. Another thing I don’t understand that you complain ô_o
Maybe you take it more calmly before you want to mess with someone, better read what you say and what I'm telling (I just think you'll have fun insulting everyone lol I love you too)
I Don’t insult any drawing was bad. (Or say that because I said that my comment of my crest was stupid, he wanted to read that in general these are stupid... ...and then the books too (????!)... I'm still shocked by that 9_9;;)
What I explain to him is that because he won and believe that he had done the best crest drawn (or the the best life drawing or whatever) and no one could say anything about it. he could calm down a bit, He just won. he was above all and take the liberty of criticizing them feel superior (given to understand that just because he won) He can criticize, the others don’t, because they didn't win.
As there are bad losers (if you think I am) there are also bad winners.
He wants to criticize others, but he doesn't accept criticism, and doesn't know be critical of himself first. I first look at my work, then the other.
Not accepting criticism and see it as a huge insult is ego, a barrier to hear nothing. Or as he won his ego is lifted up to completely lose their own judgment of what he did, not being critical of himself. ( …Well ... his problem º_º )
I bother with that, I can offend with this.
And the problem is that, when someone doesn`t know how to deal with drawings comments (in this case), not know how to accept criticism and and easily attacked with personal insults, or judging others drawings and others people to not feel devalued. Because someone tells that you should improve not saying anything bad about you. No one is born knowing. As I need to improve a lot, A LOT.
I hope that you're not reading this as I think better than anyone or some [scrap] and feel like an attack. by this rule if I draw worse than him I'm envious, And if I draw better I am the diva/ princess/snob/*censored*. Or: “she draws good = assume that is superior to others”. cheaper insult of all time [Heck] yeah. just in case I stop drawing! I may offend others!~~
You said, indirectly echi-kun was offended, and he wanted to speak DIRECTLY to each person .. You know, with names. I mean that.
The other winners could also offend, He couldn’t say: -hey guys, Why are dissatisfied with the crest? Why do you think they shouldn’t win? We could talk or ask Aphrodite.- But no, no, no, very humble, let me enjoy my glory. I make a fight and call them all stupid and jealous losers.
It's okay if he was offended. But is necessary He bother people who dont win?
And Achicken, you like to fight with people and call them idiots if you get a chance?
Lol Sorry for being so stupid and a slow. I was stupid because I didn't expected that when one say something in the forum there are always those types of kids you can’t talk without them cry over you, and one give them the reason why they cry a lot (so new). I thought we could talk about drawing and they understand me. No, very smart and know everything.
I think I better not say more y you make me your rain-of-insults-like-all-my-comment
I have no more to say to you if you are going to see it as an attack, and “who shouts and insults more wins” (?)
you don't write anything more then, you simply come to insult and then go pretending don’t mind. :B
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comment for all or something (?) :
If I can say I said something wrong, Perhaps I should have said this from the beginning: I have been interested to know why Aphrodite chose the winners, why are special to her. Con un pequeño comentarioshe said nothing of them. With a little comment might be nice, and maybe everyone would understand well.
Asked innocent if all the crest were seen, from page 1 and page 2 (without sounding rude, I'm sorry)
I really think Ecchi-kun's entry was the most inspiring. The story along with the crest really spoke to me, and made me realize the soul my entry lacked.
Thank you, Ecchi-kun, for enriching my spirit.
Gratz to the guys =)