perhaps visibility and lagg causes great problems for party members. i know id lagg like hell if i upgraded to shivermist, and frankly its blinding when its being spammed. i myself have no problems with it, and think its one of the greatest bombs..... but people like to actually do damage against mobs, and not have to sit there and do nothing: its boring. think of the other players.

N01r, what's your IGN? I would love a good bomber especially on my jelly runs.

Shivermist isn't so bad as some of the others(nitronome?), you can see through it unless its a blue like enemy (or really tiny like the royal jellies).

Oh and if people can't figure out that a frozen mob where they are free to use their charge attacks to instant kill anything isn't good, well oh well. The only bad use out of it is the potential to freeze a mob around a player, but I've never really seen that happen.

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@Weaboo, JK might be one of the places where mass freezing is bad. JK moves too much and if you freeze the tiny jellies, they become hard to see if you're focused on the big boy causing lots of random hits. In addition, you can't push those frozen little guys which turns them into road blocks. I just use the freezing atomizer to start the match so the little jellies are frozen where everyone knows where they are and they can go straight for the king, but never past that.

This sounds exactly like what the Friend Recruitment Thread is for.

I don't like the lag that bombs cause me.

But I freaking LOVE the effects on enemy mobs. Bombers are welcome with me any time. ANY time.

'never place it in the middle
.its annoying and shivermist radius will block up most of the possible escape path, especially when u're trying to mass kill mobs

'Make sure you don't place it when someone is attacking the crowd of mob
.It'll trap them and it'll get irritating

TBH, You didn't really explain the situation properly. So this are two thing that has occur to me and more that I won't list.

P.S. This came from a guy who uses bomb almost all the time

When I first started playing with people using freeze bombs it was difficult for me to adjust. I was pretty dependant on faust's knockback at the time, and having the enemies frozen in place really messed with my rythm.
Also, like a previous poster said, when you have the group chasing you it's much easier to knockback a huge swath of enemies before they can hit you, whereas when they get frozen you can only hit one or two, while the remainder have an opportunity to attack you from the sides.
And the most annoying part (and completely ridiculous and petty to complain about) was seeing the bomber's health bar remain full because he only popped into the fray long enough to drop another bomb before backing off, while I was getting torn to shreds in confusing new combat situations.

That being said, once I got used to it the advantages became very apparent, especially in situations like arenas where it's easy to get overrun. So I guess the people who boot you don't have enough practice fighting alongside bombers, and they attribute their failing performance to you (like I did).

And *that* being said, I don't believe every single situation calls for a bomb, but it's not a whole lot worse than relying solely on a sword or gun.

When playing in a party, one person's style might always cramp someone else's style. Bombers, with their wide area of effect, might just be higher profile than the others. The nitronome is most notorious, for reasons already stated above. That bomb is best used selectively I guess.

I think the problem isn't just bombers though. It's knockback and freezing, it's expecting your target to be in one place and react to your hit in the usual way, and finding unexpected results. Personally I hate it when people wield any kind of weapon that throws monsters around, be it nitronome or overusing the charged strike on the calibur. Throwing monsters onto me just to get them off of yourself, especially when they're about to attack, is just rude. :P

So yeah, people need to learn to play in parties. It doesn't happen by itself, working together always requires some extra effort. Us bombers need to figure out the playstyle of the others so that we can complement them, not work against them. :) (And if you cramp someone's style when they really know only one trick, yeah they're gonna kick you out of their party. Not your fault though.)

P.S. Don't wish to derail the thread, but I've seen the nitronome seriously shine in danger rooms. Against certain monsters you just need nothing else, the rest of the party can just stand in the center and laugh.

But they sure can block the view of enemy.

Also: Maybe your party members were too strong. If that happens, use fire to get the mobs chasing after you, collecting them in little groups with a vortex or drive them into corners with nitros while the other players are busy elsewhere. Freezing the whole arena just makes things slow and boring if the team manages good without. If the team is really strong, it's almost as bad as spamming crystal @ wolvers... that one & shivermist are for when team members loose too much health. You take your swordsmen (that usually do much more damage than any bomber) the opportunity to hit many mobs at once.

(also, just to be on the safe side: we're not talking about an ice arena, right :D )

This is because you are using it right. In the wrong hands, that thing is basically a permanent DOT on the own team and a really fun teleport-trampoline for all those monsters. Ever thought those huge, slow trees could just pop up behind you out of thin air while you swing your sword and perform an intant unavoidable "area sneak attack"? Not without a graviton bomber ;).

I prefer my grav bomb atm, but no doubt, can't hate on excellent CC. True, the dev's 'should' put in a way to turn off FX, and I'm sure it's coming.

They should also upgrade their server computers, that would cut down on some connectivity issues.

but yes, bombs, love em, love good players too.

IGN: DJBayview.