Spiral Knights - So this happens yesterday...(now with video!!!)

So this happens yesterday...(now with video!!!)

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Fri, 12/13/2013 - 19:24

Shamanalah

Atalanta came by to say welcome on Haven 25 and chatted with us for about 40 minutes to one hour.

We got to talk about everything and ask a lot of useless question. Apparently the colour for the snipe outfit (labeled: M.(dev)_snipe) is prismatic o.O what'd you know ^ ^

She did not answer anything directly related to the game and in-game situation (like most CM/dev/GM does) but she let us know that they intend to do something about Radiant drops... soon-ish-er-later... She did not mention for the better or worst, just that the drop will change and that it is part of "management" (she said "Entretien", translate that from french, not 100% sure of it) of Spiral Knights...

All in all, I had a blast talking to her again. It's lovely to see a CM or GM drop by just to say hi and answer some random questions ^ ^

Here are some cool one of a kind snapshot from my video
http://i.imgur.com/RB1VXor.png
http://i.imgur.com/iKhUnEn.png

We played hide and seek too! (and I found her! XD)

P.S. It lighten up the mood of SK, you should do this more often (maybe once every other week? catch us by surprise, no need to answer all questions and stay for too long XD)

Edit: Side note: I pointed out to Atalanta that they could switch Fire Crystal recipe to 100 4* to make 40-50 5* along with some cr or ce and she liked the idea. Although she is a CM and not a dev, she can't do it but she can talk about it in the next meeting XD

Edit 2: Linky link to the video in question. It's 13 minutes long and I don't speak much, sorry (I feel like I have a trucker voice >.<).

Translation: "No I don't know where she is"

*crack a laugh* "I just found Atalanta" <--- I said she was playing with her alt and she popped up next to me saying "what did you say?" that's why I laughed like that XD

"where is she? Ah there she is!"

"I just threw a snowball at Atalanta"

*reactions* "Did you see her costume?"

"Ban stick CTR VH ASI VH" <--- made a silly joke on how useful CTR VH is and my friend commented that a charged ban stick would ban multiple people, that's why I wrote multiban and took it off XD

All the chat you see at this point is memories of what Atalanta did as a CM (she also pointed out how bad she was at LD, we were talking about anything, what can a GM do, spawning boss in Haven would require a reset to take it off apparently)

OH MY VOG, After rewatching the video (for translation) you can see someone hitting Atalanta at 2:18 with a snowball while she is invisible (to your right) o.O

Fastforward to 11 min if you wanna see snipe outfit. The screen I took from the snipe outfit (the helm) is so short in the video, you might have to freeze frame to see it or check my screenie for easier access to that part

Fri, 12/13/2013 - 20:37

Aplauses

Nice

Snipe with hammer, that so cool.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 04:47

Thunder-The-Bright

gods ain't gonna help you, son.

oh lord, another rocket snipe! I thought hyperion was the only one!
god, they will kill us all with their small hitboxes and OP equipment! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'll be delighted to see the video even though I don't speak french.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 08:28

Autofire

You are experiencing a PICNIC ERROR!

OOOOOH ROCKET SNIPES!

This is the secret! We just need more people with OCH and then we can somehow unbind our hammers and gift them to the snipes!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 09:08

Thunder-The-Bright

gods ain't gonna help you, son.

dat CTR VH ASI VH ban stick worries me a lot. why would anyone need that much power?

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 16:37

Fehzor

Nice info get!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 18:54

Ardent-Light

Graveyard it quickly!

Graveyard it! Quickly! Before Atlanta gets you with her Bansti

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 21:33

Atalanta

Game Master

I would like to clarify

I would like to clarify something as there seems to be some misunderstanding and I'd like to nip it in the bud before any false hope stems (which may result in some stick sharpening).

As you may have heard, the modification in drop rates is part of our ongoing management. While I mentioned that we are keeping an eye on the rates, the changes that will/might be made on the Radiants is a probability, not definite. I understand that many of you have a strong interest in the crystals and we do acknowledge your feedback regarding the matter.

I hope this puts us all on the same page here. I apologize for the confusion I've caused back here. Please have a merry Winterfest!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 21:47

Fehzor

"the modification in drop rates is part of our ongoing management."

Oh... So you ARE trying to profit off of this, and it isn't just the devs being clumsy. Gotcha.

Well my vote is -1, please do not make the game into a massive grindfest with a ridiculous paywall at the end. That sounds kind of tragic, to be entirely honest with you. I personally will not be opting to pay into this.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 21:45

Bitsbee

Cue the "OMG ATLANTA POSTED!!!!!" Posts.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 21:58

#10

Dibsville

Copy + Paste

OMG ATLANTA POSTED!!!!!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 22:02

#11

Rezzler

Thats a nice way of saying

Thats a nice way of saying "we wont do anything about the drop rates."

Tbh, if you dont suck, shadow lairs are your option. And tbh, SLs arent that hard with the right gear.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 22:15

#12

Fehzor

And TBH, I don't want to gather 7 parties and convince 21 people to do shadow lairs every time I want to heat a weapon.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 22:17

#13

Ardent-Light

Omg Atlanta posted!

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 22:26

#14

Retequizzle

"Oh... So you ARE trying to

"Oh... So you ARE trying to profit off of this, and it isn't just the devs being clumsy. Gotcha."

It's unfortunate that even when Game Masters do choose to post in threads, regardless of their answer, there's someone who's willing to take something out of context.

Just because one possibility is ruled out does not automatically mean that the other is inherently true. That sort of mentality is what gets everyone into trouble to begin with, because it makes the situation out to be more extreme than it actually is. Yeah, I get that people don't have 5* crystals to heat things up. That doesn't mean that, because they're not immediately answering the problem in a way that satisfies your needs/wants/demands/whatever-the-%$*&-you-want-to-call-it, they don't care about other alternatives being looked at.

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 22:40

#15

Dekuinanutshell

This is my original comment.

Continuing with the comment above.

Secondly its people like you that make them not want to deal with commenting. While everyone here is enjoying the upfeed you're over here just trying to justify an opinion as a fact. Get your facts strait first and then speak. No cookie for you >:T

Sat, 12/14/2013 - 23:50

#16

Aplauses

Well, it is better than saying

"Sorry but the drop rates will not be changes and have a MERRY WINTERFEST ANYONE!! kbye"

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 00:15

#17

Fehzor

How am I about to get everyone in trouble and how am I wrong?

"the modification in drop rates is part of our ongoing management."

Meaning that it was entirely intended as a permanent change-- or at least that the developers were seeing how we would react. They were seeing if we'd buy into it.

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 00:35

#18

Thunderskull

Response by a human?

You aren't wrong and you aren't right, at least not yet anyways. It's just that you ARE directly assume that they ARE trying to make money off of it even though it could be a wide range of different reasons. I do have an idea on why this happened. Why would it take so long to get a bunch of new/reworked guns and new armor sets out? Cause it actually doesn't take very long, it's probably because there is more than just new armor sets and things that go pew pew pew.

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 00:36

#19

Skold-The-Drac

all i got from atalanta's post

You've all been very good guinea pigs. We've been monitoring drop rates and their impacts throughout the player base. Please do not lose faith in the idea that this is a game and we have not lost sight of this.

We've also taken into account some concerns from players that our ongoing rates have been too low, but worry the original rate was too high. So, as the game continues we'll be making adjustments to attempt a medium that both the players and our sponsor finds happy.

I will also never divulge when we can access the drop rates or when we have because we really don't need a fallout. Not to be confused with Fallout the first BA bomber. Whom we will commemorate a statue in memory of, a BAB in the charging position above a fully accessorized mad bomber suit.

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 04:46

#20

Maharito

Well, lacking anything else

Well, lacking anything else to go on, I guess I'll at least make an effort to play some before Christmas.

False hopes or not, it's something. Merci pour nous donner de votre temps et nous encourager, Atalanta; thanks for piping in, Shamanala; thanks for documenting what was said, others.

...And if you're being a circular contractile muscle, please just check yourself before you wreck yourself. Some of us need the boost.

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 07:03

#21

Shamanalah

my 2 cents

As you may have heard, the modification in drop rates is part of our ongoing management. While I mentioned that we are keeping an eye on the rates, the changes that will/might be made on the Radiants is a probability, not definite. I understand that many of you have a strong interest in the crystals and we do acknowledge your feedback regarding the matter.

It's nice that you clear it up, as I may not have explained in the best form.

I hope this puts us all on the same page here. I apologize for the confusion I've caused back here. Please have a merry Winterfest!

I think we are on the same page. I never fully expect a fix for radiant, but knowing you are probably doing something is better than not having any info...

Also to everyone I like to give you the situation: Atalanta is flooded with "when are radiants coming back" and yelled SOON after the 3rd time she answered.... and people kept asking..... and like I pointed out, She did not mention for the better or worst, just that the drop will change and that it is part of "management"

Thank you for everything Atalanta ^ ^

Have a wonderful Holidays

Désoler si j'ai causer des problèmes, ce n'était pas mon intention mais d'informer la communauté de se qu'on a parlé ^ ^

Edit: Also you gotta look at SK with a wider perspective, I think OOO will launch Gunner update before going into Radiant fix... if they would fix radiant right now, we could stack up radiant before the next update... You gotta see the big picture rather than the small frame you are focusing on...

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 07:34

#22

Rezzler

@Fehz Just solo em! It is

@Fehz Just solo em! It is rather inconvenient, but what else can we do? Its tge most efficient way of getting them, unless some moron puts them up for less in the AH

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 10:33

#23

Draycos

Inferring from Atalanta's post:

-The crystal drought is intentional, and is likely here to stay.

-The changes are part of "ongoing management" (the Arcade Redux, probably), which likely hints at later content (that new boss/Challenge Mode) being a source of Radiants.

Remember that this has been going on for a long time now, with no way to tell how far they've gotten with the Redux. Whether that makes this a bad-but-innocent choice on the devs' part or flat-out greed is up for interpretation.

One thing I will take a stance on is this: OOO should be more transparent. This is a step in the right direction. Keep going.

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 16:21

#24

Xtweeterx

@Fehzor

OR maybe they intentionally reduced the radiants as part as the development when the new boss is released. Didn't think about htat now did you?

I'm ready to mentally slaughtered now when just saying something and getting out was my only intention.

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 16:30

#25

Draycos

I just said that..

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 18:20

#26

Xxpapaya

The papaya giggles

Well, Radiants aside, I really enjoy how one of the GM's inputs something into the chat every now and then as well ^.^ It's good to know that they are aware of the complaints we have (most of the time :P) and that chat monitoring isn't just a joke.

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 19:39

#27

Xtweeterx

O.o

@Xxpapaya

Dat second link... O.o

Sun, 12/15/2013 - 21:28

#28

Xxpapaya

The papaya blushes

@Xtweeterx
Let's just say that things can get annoying when you don't find a Book of Dark Rituals after your [definitely greater than 90]th Black Kat :3

Mon, 12/16/2013 - 08:41

#29

Shamanalah

Inferring from Atalanta's

Inferring from Atalanta's post:

-The crystal drought is intentional, and is likely here to stay.

-The changes are part of "ongoing management" (the Arcade Redux, probably), which likely hints at later content (that new boss/Challenge Mode) being a source of Radiants.

That's your opinion on what Atalanta said... Obviously it was planned that the radiant fire crystal drop would be decrease... but you have no idea if it is there to stay but simply a phase OOO had to go through to get feedback and readjust the shot.

They aren't the fastest dev to put up content, they haven't fix Sprite lvl 100 max UV that can't eat Reset Star... and they may never will because it only affect so little % of the playerbase that putting hours on that isn't worth...

Also the fire crystal recipe might change... the radiant drought is only temporary, it's event now so there is no point addressing this issue now, they have time to work on it through the holidays (along with gunner update, 24 new guns, we WILL use Radiant at some point)

Mon, 12/16/2013 - 09:30

#30

Juvon

I predict longer clockworks

I predict longer clockworks depths coming soon. Like.. depth 0 - 40 or something.

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