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Tue, 01/07/2014 - 08:10
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian

First it was creating threads about making monsters weaker, then it was threads that were complaining about CE and mist (til it was removed), and now it's threads about hating guilds and individuals. WHY? is there so much hate?

EDIT: Moving to grave yard. Thread is getting out o hand.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 08:11
#1
Bitsbee's picture
Bitsbee

Because Humans.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 08:17
#2
Skayeth's picture
Skayeth
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Human nature. Deal with it.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 08:20
#3
Blazzberry's picture
Blazzberry
I have no mouth and I need to scream

The answer is simple really.

By mathmatically breaking down the number of threads total combined and fused with the might of vanadukes mountain sized steak pecks, dividing the menders heal cap multiplied by how loud a mechanical set of rocket puppies can bark then subtracting how many licks it takes to get to the center of the royal jelly himself, the reason and reason alone is this.

Because butter.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 08:30
#4
Vesperaldus's picture
Vesperaldus
People are selfish.

People are selfish.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 08:45
#5
Mystrian's picture
Mystrian

Annilaton posted:
Human nature

Speaking of which, when people post in the New Recruits section, why do some have to "troll" and link to pictures? (some make fun of topic or poster) They are just asking questions.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 08:53
#6
Krakob's picture
Krakob

Because going on the internet to express your hatred towards people is mature and cool.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 09:08
#7
Hellscreams-Forum's picture
Hellscreams-Forum
@Krakob

That's YOUR point of view

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 10:10
#8
Fangel's picture
Fangel
Answer, answer, answer, sarcasm

Yup! This is pretty much how I expected this thread to go.

Balancing and game issues make sense, seeing as this is a forum on a game, but the group/personal attacks are just people expressing negativity or dealing with something in their life. Such a shame they do that through hating other people, even if it brings them the attention they so desire.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 10:44
#9
Shamanalah's picture
Shamanalah
my 2 cents

After 2 years of trying to help OOO in making a better game, some people got lost and just tend to troll or wander around the forum as it is one of the most inactive forum I have ever seen...

Even games like Starbound who are in beta has a more active forum... Path of Exile forum too, Loadout... and so on... The fact that we get 1 post per dev per 6 months (and it's because we pretty much say anything until a GM pops up and say "this isn't going to happen" or that good old copy paste of "please follow the rule of the forum and blablabla"

I often see devs and GM answer to questions on the forum of others game, but SK... nope...

In every other game, if there was a problem like the radiant, the dev would've let us know what they intend to fix said problem...

Like OOO jumped on the "I CANT FIND SHNNING IN FSC" problem by introducing fire crystal... Then someone drank too much and tried to fix the shinning vs radiant drop in FSC and then the guy spilled coffee on his laptop and it's being repaired for the last 2 months before they can fix it...

No but seriously, SK forum are people who got bored of the game because the devs says nothing or doesn't even make their forum active... a simple "yes" or "no" from them could go a long way...

I left a guild and made an awesome speech about being an active guild and being an active guild master... if you don't do nothing and tell people nothing, go in your corner and stay there... Nobody will like you, however (like Hyperion does) if you come and say just a little thing, whether it is a little "hi" or a simple "I know you want it" can make a huge difference...

Little things like that take 30 seconds to do as a dev/game master/leader and will tremendously help the communication between people as you show some "care" to the others..

I don't want a resume of your weekend and what you did with your kids and wife and husband... just a little hey from time to time like you used to do, like most dev do to make sure people enjoy their game

As of now, I don't believe that the dev team of SK actually care if we enjoy the game or not

TL;DR Forum is boring because game master makes it boring by not responding. Active forum = active community = less hate Thread = more fun = everybody happy

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:11
#10
Thunder-The-Bright's picture
Thunder-The-Bright
gods ain't gonna help you, son.

aaaaaaaaand nope. I don't know who you are and why you have that nickname, but you are not shamanala, sorry. he/she has better english and less hate.

mr H, GMs are bound not to resopnd to anything that regards the game that isn't strictly controlled by OOO.
first things first, there will always be haters and complainers. there were before mist and there are now.
secondly, I bet that the games you mentioned have a larger team than OOO, and that they post some references because they are devs and not GMs. GMs don't make the game, they are our channel to devs, that make the game. GMs make comments that aren't related to the game, and that is why we have so little GM posts in here.

No but seriously, SK forum are people who got bored of the game because the devs says nothing or doesn't even make their forum active... a simple "yes" or "no" from them could go a long way...

I'm not bored. contri is surely not bored. fehz and zeddy, idk. if all the forumers would be bored, we would have moved along to another game a long time ago. we like the game and try to enjoy it. we post (or well, have posted) our concerns and ideas. we, the forumers, keep the forums alive, not the GMs and the devs. a single post of a GM or of a dev can do many things, but not save a dying forum; and I don't see this as a dying forum.

Nobody will like you, however (like Hyperion does) if you come and say just a little thing, whether it is a little "hi" or a simple "I know you want it" can make a huge difference...

and they do. well, nick tries a bit with posts and such (dihidrogen monoxide anyone?), and GMs too make some posts as long as they aren't referred to the game. shamanala tried to speak to atalanta when she was in heaven, and she was vague about everything that was referred to the game; GMs appeared throughout heaven with bucket of snowballs, and I'm sure they did the same. game devs that admit they screwed up are very, very rare. I'm fond of flash games(kongregate), and I can tell you that devs that speak to their players are rare (and esteemed among all). in your gaming experience you may have sticked up with the game forums (and games) with active devs, but that doesn't mean anything. I could make a reference on this, but it's an italian forum and probably a bigger community (although number of alts could be impressive).

TL;DR Forum is boring because game master makes it boring by not responding. Active forum = active community = less hate Thread = more fun = everybody happy

TL;DR forums always have their complainers and such; we don't need a thread to see that. the fact that GMs respond more doesn't mean that the forum is gonna be better.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:37
#11
Dibsville's picture
Dibsville

There always has to be something that people can come together and hate against. It gives people a common ground. Don't forget people are all hating on OOO's now as well. When the gunner update comes out, people will hate on the new guns, no matter how well-done it is. It's just the way humans work.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 11:56
#12
Shamanalah's picture
Shamanalah
my 2 cents

aaaaaaaaand nope. I don't know who you are and why you have that nickname, but you are not shamanala, sorry. he/she has better english and less hate.

I changed my name a week ago or so... I still have an awful english XD

TL;DR forums always have their complainers and such; we don't need a thread to see that. the fact that GMs respond more doesn't mean that the forum is gonna be better.

In a forum there are always complainer, but there are also people that support the game... and like I said and poiinted out, Starbound, Loadout and Path of Exile forum are more active than a 2 years old game that is going through changes...

One is an early access game, the other a F2P in early access and the other just released as F2P game... the GM and devs are active on them and will answer most of your question if nobody can...

The last time a GM answer - Atalanta telling people after 46 post where to actually go to get a job at OOO, after 2 days of trolling...

All I'm saying is that devs and GM actually answer on other game and the forum feel more active... not better... active! What's the last good Thread you have seen on the forum? that wasn't Radiant/Jemps/balance related?

Edit: he/she has better english and less hate. wait what some people here think I know "better than mediocre" english??? YAYYYY (for the hate part, I don't really care that people hate me, I am who I am and I say what I want... even if I look like a total idiot in front of a cute girl... who turned out to be the kind of woman who talks in the back of everybody, to not say the b word)

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 12:39
#13
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Thunder-The-Bright
gods ain't gonna help you, son.

but, but, but, I remembered you differently. whatever, I don't have good memory. and brain has a mastery in getting proof for anything. why the h anyway? I'm gonna call you h.

In a forum there are always complainer, but there are also people that support the game

I know you mean GMs and devs, but we forum goers do a pretty good job at it. game has its flaws but it's good overall ect.

One is an early access game, the other a F2P in early access and the other just released as F2P game... the GM and devs are active on them and will answer most of your question if nobody can...

I really facepalmed at this one. early access, of course devs talk a lot, ours did it too when the game was new. there are many things to talk in a new game (10 things you didn't know of SK is one of the things, the interviews of GMs and devs another one) but once we're done, you hire somebody new (which I really recomend to OOO) or you keep saying things that relates to nothing. don't get me wrong, I would really like a dev Q&A, but I don't think OOO can handle this with its small team. hire somebody nick! it's for your own good!
or we could sabotage some other OOO's game and get new devs when it closes. but that's EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLL.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 13:18
#14
Skayeth's picture
Skayeth
Oh gawf, this is comedy gold

Everyone pretty much hates me because I hate the jempires, right?
And Krabob is a jempire-supporter, right?
And everyone knows I use the forums as my prime weapon against the jemps, right?
And everyone says I'm really immature because I expressed my anger against the jemps on the forums,or the internet?
But he posted this:
Because going on the internet to express your hatred towards people is mature and cool.
/e laughs so much tears ran out of his eyes.
Which is exactly what happened in real life. OH GAWD. COMEDY GOLD!
IRONY FTW!

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 14:28
#15
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Thunder-The-Bright
gods ain't gonna help you, son.

no annilation, we hate you because you spam the forums, not because you hate the jempire.
and krakob in is the jempire.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 15:31
#16
Xtweeterx's picture
Xtweeterx
If there's one thing I learned.

Is that the forums back in 2010-2012 were probably more friendly than modern times. If I ask something, I want a direct answer, or at least some form of evidence to point me towards one. Not just random hatred or bollocks from anyone.

And that there's no age-old or current thing that no one will not complain about. I find it quite sad.

I will not tolerate:

  • Forced viewpoints
  • People telling me how to play my game as if their way was far better than mine (even though I never did the same to them). See this
  • Any form of trolling or jokes on non-joke threads (This sounds a bit hard to explain, but just explore threads about 10 pages back) (Unless Gremlin Chatter)
  • Subtle personal attacks (Personal attacks in general are against the ToS)

The list goes on, but I'm stuck in homework so I can't think of them all now.

But do people even THINK before they speak? Or avoid doing anything in the list? Nope.

Hell, even my first community back in 09 are far friendlier and smarter than this. And people get owned for violating these subtly or not.

I would link to my profile there, but I'm most likely going to get bashed because that game happens to be made 3 years before MineCraft was and is locked in a stalemate of competition with it. .

EDIT: Link fixed.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 15:26
#17
Sandwich-Potato's picture
Sandwich-Potato
 

Twitter, broken link.

Is that the forums back in 2010-2012 were probably more friendly than modern times.

Is that modern society has taken a plummet. It's only logical that this forum would be affected as well. So have all the others.

Any form of trolling or jokes on non-joke threads (This sounds a bit hard to explain, but just explore threads about 10 pages back) (Unless Gremlin Chatter)

Considering you and your buddies, this is kinda ironic.

Forced viewpoints

Kinda ironic again.

"I will NOT tolerate (AKA allow) any people who enforce their viewpoints."

Subtle personal attacks (Personal attacks in general are against the ToS)

And imperialism was contradictory to the Declaration of Independence, but that didn't stop America, did it? And even if there is any, it's completely justified based on the incredible bulwark of useless threads you have started. Are you kidding me? Forums king? What in any way does that have to do with the game? And don't spout that joke thread stuff. A joke thread is worse than a joke post, as it completely wipes a legitimate one out, unlike a joke post which is still amidst relevant ones.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 15:51
#18
Xtweeterx's picture
Xtweeterx
@Sandwich-Potato

I'm just back to being a regular forummer. My 2 guys are free to do as they please.

Now, about viewpoints, people sharing theirs is alright with me. Like how I us my Levi in FSC and don't plan on getting any brandishes. But of course forcing them as if they are truth is not tolerable. Keep in mind I'm aware that sometimes they might be true, but it all depends on how you say it.

About the threads I have started, yes. I was still under the influence of Annilaton during that point in time, and I have freed myself. I lend you my word I'll save inane statements for Gremlin Chatter.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 15:54
#19
Bork-Laser's picture
Bork-Laser

Nowadays, if you ask a question that have already been asked, you are forced to cut off your tongue and feed it to your mother/father.
If you post one-liners, no matter how funny they are, you are forced to chop your fingers off and slam your head on your computer until it breaks.
If you share YOUR OWN opinion on a PUBLIC forum, you are labeled a troll, a bigot, a murderer, and a psychopath.

If you are part of the inner circle, however, you need not worry about any of that.

Ask a question that has been asked before? Who cares! No one "important" will say anything about it.
Want to post one-liners or link overly used images and videos? That is okay! You will be praised for being witty, no matter how bland the delivery was.
Want to share your opinions on the forums? Go ahead! You can never be wrong if you are part of the inner circle.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 15:59
#20
Xtweeterx's picture
Xtweeterx
@Bork-Laser

What is this "inner circle" you speak of?

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 16:09
#21
Skayeth's picture
Skayeth
/laugh

@Xtweeterx: When have I ever influenced you??? I never thought I would influence anyone... o.O It's mostly you influencing me...

And wherever did Sirius go? I think he quit. o.O

Good times...good times...

*Annilaton turns around, muttering..."Must satisfy nostalgia...must satisfy nostalgia...."

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 16:13
#22
Bork-Laser's picture
Bork-Laser
@Xtweeterx

The ones who feel that no matter what they post, they are right in every sense of the word. The ones who seem to be in "oral agreement" every time an argument breaks out on the forums. And believe me, there are a ton of them in this community.

You need not worry about what I am saying, though. I can truthfully say that you are not a part of that . In fact, you yourself seem to get a lot of unnecessary flak.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 16:25
#23
Xtweeterx's picture
Xtweeterx
@Bork-Laser

I, um... Okay O.o

Now I'm REEEAALLLY glad I'm freed of my hypnosis. However, I'm still afraid I'll get criticized for making a thread of any kind.

Tue, 01/07/2014 - 16:29
#24
Skayeth's picture
Skayeth
-_-

What hypnosis....When did I ever try to brainwash you....?

Fri, 01/10/2014 - 00:49
#25
Hexzyle's picture
Hexzyle

I can confirm that Shamanalah is indeed Shamanala for all you skeptics out there.

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