Vog Cub, Skolver, Or Snarbolax set

Hey guys! I'm at my 5 star HoH test to become a champion. I currently have:
-Gigawatt Pulsar
-Levi Blade
-Ash Tail Cap/Vog Cub Coat
-4 star Defender
I do not know which path to choose: Vog, Snarby, or the Skolver set (pretty sure not goin' for Skolver, though)
I really need advice from all you guys out there,
I know all about the sets, Vog= ASI med Snarb= Dmg bonus+Poison resist and Skolver=Dmg bonus
If you guys would help, that would be nice
Also in the game my name is Vengance-Ichigo (i know i spelt vengeance wrong i spelt it like that on-purpose). PM me if you wanna know why. XD
Well, yea that's basically all. I would really like an answer though to my question. Also i know that Vog is more for vana and Skolver for LD. Snarb..I guess for some vana and SL. I know i am going to farm through vana. If you have the same question as me, just pm me and ill add you in. Or you could add yourself in to the disscussion. See ya in the game! (BTW I am in chawkthree's guild-if your a fan of him) Also, I'm looking for a decent sword to farm thru FSC.
Now, I already got a vog coat

I have a detailed sword guide written for people in your position. Check out the armor section. Keep in mind that Snarbolax armor is obtainable only through the Shadow Lairs. I don't know why you've dismissed Skolver.
If you want to see more opinions on this subject, try searching Google for something like "vog skolver site:forums.spiralknights.com". This question has been asked many, many times. Good luck.

Bopp, I've checked your sword guide millions of times, but you don't say detailed stuff abut the vog and skolver sets. But thx for the reply

My guide gives you a complete description of both sets, comments on their offense and defense, and remarks that Vog is more defensive and Skolver more offensive. The guide then goes on to suggest that you build a mixed set, with one piece of each. I'm not sure how much more "detailed stuff" you want.
Maybe I can help more if you answer these questions: Why have you decided not to get Skolver? Is it because you don't play Lockdown? Have you ever attempted Firestorm Citadel? Are you aiming for Vog because of that? Do you have expert friends who can help you through a Shadow Lair run? (If not, then don't consider Snarbolax any time soon.)

It'd be better if you went half and half, specifically with Vog and Snarbolax. It's a common thing a newcomer 5* does since you get a wider array of defense and resist and these two in particular offer the most useful bonuses in the PvE, Skolver technically being best in PvP as long as you get piercing UVs.
Since the most dangerous enemies are currently Elemental and Shadow dealing enemies, Vog and Snarbolax will help you take more hits against them. Vog will also provide you with a good chunk of fire resist, one of the two most dangerous of status effects, and Snarbolax will provide you with freeze and poison resist, which are less dangerous to an extent.
Now the best thing about this set is that it provides you with ASI and DMG med, which will allow your swords to hit harder and faster, which is a pretty great! You should continue to stack your ASI and DMG bonuses with trinkets if you can, try to aim them as high as possible so you'll destroy enemies with ease. DMG > ASI in most scenarios in PvE, but it's mostly preference on which you want to build more in PvP.
Like you and Bopp said though, Snarbolax is only obtainable through Shadow Lairs or the AH. If you're able to hang onto either piece of your Ash Tail, you could try and hop into a Shadow Lair with someone to go and get a Snarbolax piece. Alternatively, if you're unable to do that, settle for a single Skolver and get Snarbolax when you make more Ash Tail sets.
Also consider looking at Chaos set if you think you can handle it well.

Thanks. I will look forward to what you said. 1 piece of snarby and the other vog. I am not going for skolver because back when the 5 star recipes were 10k I bought the vog coat recipient and I don't want to waste that crowns. For Snarby, AT the sanctuary ther
are the recipes built in so..ya. I really might go for full vog though. It's because on my bday I am getting 9500 CE from the battle pack. My friend, is giving me 3500 CE for helping him get to his 3 star certificate. I have all the stuff to CRAFT the vog, but the rest I have to buy from kozma. Also I might get a nice sword/gun too so if you guys can help about which wepon . I am thinkin' of glacius or Callahan. Any ideas?

Awesome! If you do go for full Vog, you admittingly will have an easier time farming in FSC (Firestorm Citadel) because the enemies there will deal plenty of fire to sap your health if you don't have much resist. The elemental defense is also more useful since the puppies, traps, shadow fire, and Vana's fireballs all deal elemental damage, the rest of the enemies (Slimes, Slags, and Trojans) deal the other two types which can be dealt with easily as long as you practice.
I wouldn't recommend Glacius; as you get more skilled (or charge spammy, same thing) and know the attack patterns of enemies, you'll begin to find freeze being less useful as it deals less damage on charges if your enemy freezes and it can get you killed sometimes when frozen enemies block your escape path. If you want an elemental dealing sword, you might want to get Combuster as it's the most powerful of all the brandishes due to it having the highest damage potential with it's charge attack making enemies ride the whole wave and dealing strong fire.
The other brandish that's somewhat on par with it is Voltedge, which deals shock that'll do wonders in tight groups of enemies, however it's only obtainable through playing PvP and getting 300 tokens for all the recipes (or 250 if you decide to get the 3* sword right off the AH and craft up from there).
As for your gun, don't get a Callahan as it's one of the weakest guns in the arsenal and a swordie won't have much use of it if they have a BTB/FF (Barbarous Thorn Blade or Final Flourish). What you should consider looking at is a gun to deal with your weakness: ranged enemies. You do have a Gigawatt, so you could continue from there and make a Polaris which is the best at shutting down turrets and large groups of non-resistant enemies, but keep in mind that heavy usage of it will piss off teammates and may lead you to get a kick from a party.
I would alternatively recommend getting an Argent Peacemaker for some quick and simple DPS as well as the utility of breaking blocks and minerals faster, it currently stands as the best friendly gun. Deals elemental damage and has a 6-shot clip. It's the common choice over Polaris.
Another choice would be any elemental alchemer, which ranges from Nova Driver (deals more damage, but no status), to Magma, Storm, and Hail Drivers (deals statuses, but less damage). They're harder to use due to only having a 2-shot clip and funny ricochets, but their DPS potential is far more incredible than Argent Peacemaker in groups fights. If you're skilled, you can really work these things.
My last choice would be Valiance; a simple gun that deals with any enemy fairly well with it's normal damage 3-shot clip and knockback. It's not the best since it's damage is lacking vs. specialized guns, but it's reliable and simple, and perfectly fine that way.

Thanks, man. BTW, my bday is in April so...ya but I'm planning now to make sure...I guess. Thanks for the advice about the weapon's but, which gun does more DMG? Nog driver or the normal 5 star prisma alchemer? Also are toothpicks (BTB/FF/FR/DCP) good for the FSC/Vana? Pls reply and, what time do you play on SK? Please tell me because I want to meet you in-game and talk. But also, if I am not available in-game, go to this forum and talk. I would love a reply!

Nog Blaster and Nova Driver do the same damage. Nog Driver is just a reskin that requires a stupidly cheap event to get.
And I realise you're not asking me, but I'm going to voice an opinion anyway. BTB and FF are both great for FSC, although Blitz Needle is usually considered the superior choice due to it also being useful against Vanaduke himself.
Blitz and toothpicks will both murder Trojans otherwise.

1. They do the same damage. The Eggnog Driver will make you look swag, but it is a limited item, so unless you have the materials for the eggnog, get the Nova Driver
2. Don't bother getting a toothpick. Get an Acheron instead, because Acheron a) does more damage to beasts than toothpicks, and b) Acheron does more damage to Undead than CIV. You may say that Acheron is useless against Fiends, but that is false. You COULD use your Gigawatt against them. In fact, before you upgrade to Polaris, get a Strike Needle, as you will find it very useful against undeads and fiends. Over time, you will find that you stop using your Leviathan, and that is true. I had to do that with my Rigadoon. I did upgrade it to 5* before the Battle Sprite patch came out. Now it is left poking Dust Bunnies in my inventory instead of Dust Bunnies in the open Clockworks. All because of Acheron. So yeah, get an Acheron.
3. You won't find me on SK any more, I haven't played in a few months.

Wow! How do you guys reply so fast? Its like magic. Nevertheless, thanks for the advice again, now, I might think of going for the cutter line. Whatcha think? I am telling you to join me so you know my play style.B-) =-O :-P ;-) :-\ O:-) :-[ :-$ :-! :-) :O :'( :-(

Also I might get the Acheron, but it will suck at FSC unless I have a 3 slot load out with my Levi, Acheron, and gigawatt pulsar. Also is Acheron better than the obsidian edge r wut? Same with umbra and carbine

Blitz needle, huh? I'll think 'bout it, but its kinda costly so is there an alternative instead of blitz? The 2nd reason I dunt like blitz is because (not trying to show off here, but) since almost every1 brings a blitz, you don't look unique and cool. XD but wutever. Also, instead of voggy, I heard the volcanic salamnder was nice for jk since of VH DMG vs slime and decent for vana. Is that tru?

Don't want Blitz because it's too popular?
Then don't get any Brandishes, Antiguas, Pulsars, Toothpicks, Sealed Swords, Alchemers, Swiftstrike Buckler, Barbarous Thorn Shield, Grey Owlite Shield, Crest of Almire, Shivermist Buster, Wolver lines, Gunslinger lines, or Magic lines.
In my opinion, Volcanic Salamander is probably one of the worst sets in the game, just behind Azure Guardian, Arcane Salamander, and Heavenly Iron, respectively.
Acheron vs Obsidian Edge-- Acheron wins without fail. Don't overestimate that Poison, Acheron does significantly more damage, so much so that Edge isn't even worth it. Basically the same concept as comparing Blitz Needle to Plague Needle.
I'm biased against Antiguas, as I personally think they are absolute garbage gun-wise, so I can't comment on Carbine vs Umbra. I can however say I have both, and I use my Umbra on a regular basis, yet I only use my Carbine to show off, if that helps.

K. So even though the obsidian set is more rare, I should go acheron. I'll think bout it as it is not 2 shabby. Also, I am slowly in need of a better shield since I have mighty defender. I know, cobalt shields suck. So, should I go owlite or tortoise, r wut? Also, here are some questions:
Does Acheron do split normal/shadow DMG?
Other then COA, what is the best shield?
So shall I do this?
Set: Vog
Swords Acheron and Levi
Gun: Gigawatt pulsar
Sheild?.....Iron might Plate??????

@Usevnsevnsixfivfor I wouldn't say "don't bother", it's still one of the best weapons in PvE!...otherwise yeah, you could just Combuster and Acheron your way to victory in the PvE.
Anyway, He...might legitimately may not know how silly that popularity statement sounds.
*takes a deep breath and claps* Okay! To answer your questions:
1. Cutter is a niche, but fun weapon. Cutter does a 5-hit combo that hits 2 times per slice for a total of 10-hits. DVS (Dread Venom Striker) is preferred over WHB (Wild Hunting Blade) due to it dealing strong poison vs. beast DMG bonus against the weakest monsters in the game. That sounds good on paper, but the problem is that it's hitbox is narrow, does terribly vs. groups of monsters, and staggering enemies difficult unless you get off the whole combo. I wouldn't recommend getting it until you have all your important pieces of gear.
Dibsville answers your other questions, but I'll add my two cents cause I can.
2. If you get an Acheron, you can dump your Leviathan, as Acheron will do more DMG vs. any enemy, including those resistant to it. As for Obsidian Blade, it has it's uses when healing enemies are around due to strong poison, but the majority of the time (which is everywhere except when there's healers), Acheron dominates through it's sheer power.
3. Umbra is better than Carbine because Umbra is an alchemer and Carbine isn't (from my Gunner point of view). But seriously, as a swordie, you really shouldn't care to much about getting a shadow gun, but if you're considering getting one as for RJP (Royal Jelly Palace), C42 (Compound 42), and OCH (Operation Crimson Hammer), you can get either, much like Argent Peacemaker and the elemental alchemers. If you want mobility, utility, and an easier time vs. Gremlins grab Carbine. If you want power and an easier time vs. Slimes, grab Umbra.
4. You shouldn't care about whether a weapon is popular or not, you can't help it if a weapon is better than others, that's just how the game is. If you wanna be unique, think about that after you have gear to destroy your enemies with ease, then you can expand your arsenal to new playstyles and gorgeous costumes! Now your question, the closest thing that comes to the monstrosity of a Blitz Needle is a Blight Needle, but like Voltedge requires that you have to get 300 tokens (or 250 with a premade 3*) in PvP to get the recipes. It's also not worth it as the poison status doesn't make up for the DMG reduction it has. You should get the Blitz Needle.
5. Quoting Dibsville on this, " Volcanic Salamander is probably one of the worst sets in the game, just behind Azure Guardian, Arcane Salamander, and Heavenly Iron, respectively." Don't get any set that only gives you a family DMG bonus, they're awful. If you want to get a set good for RJP, get Skolver. If you want a good set for FSC, get Vog.
EDIT: Much questions. Very post. Such spooky.
1. Acheron does Shadow and Normal. The damage it deals makes it better than Leviathan in every way.
2.There are different shields for different situations. A swordie usually settles for BTS (Barbarous Thorn Shield) for it's sword DMG bonus med. It's also tanky enough to be the only shield you ever need as a swordie. If you want to be even tankier, grab these:
Piercing stratums: Barbarous Thorn Shield
Elemental stratums: Grey Owlite
Shadow: Crest of Almire, and if you want to be even more flexible with status resistances, get Dread Skelly Shield too.
What you're working with is just fine, you might be a teensy bit slower in FSC if you use Acheron over an Elemental Brandish, but it's just fine cause it's really strong regardless.

"Does Acheron do split normal/shadow DMG?"
Yes.
"Other then COA, what is the best shield?"
Depends on the situation. I'd recommend Grey Owlite if you were only going to get one shield only, but that's just me.
"So shall I do this?"
Do whatever you want.

Thx but....wit bout shield? GOS? Or VPS? Hmm, wutever lol. Any answers?

Grey Owlite Shield is a highly regarded shield for both its extremely useful status resistances (Fire and Shock), as well has having Elemental defense, generally thought to be the most useful resistance (although not as useful as of recently, but it's still one of the most common damages and useful defenses to have).
So, I'd say Grey Owlite Shield.

Grey Owlite Shield. VPS won't do great against any enemies with split DMG.

Here's wut I got, good?
Set:Vog
Swords: Acheron and Combuster/Levi
Shield: GOS
Gun: Gigawatt Pulsar, nog blaster/blitzy needle
That a balanced set? Hmm, piercing, shadow,normal, elemental,
Looks good.
So ya. If there are new updatsies, pls tell me if they made new gear and weps, cuz they eventually will, and if I get any in game problems, yea I'll talk on forums. Don't forget! Everyday, I'll post sumpthing on here so watch it!

That set looks good. Go for it if you want to.
My usual FSC setup.
Chaos set, Volcanic Plate Shield, Voltedge, Hail Driver, Blitz Needle, Electron Vortex, Maskeraith, Healthy Boost VI Perk, Penta-Heart Pendant (x2).
My usual RJP setup.
Skolver set, Aegis, Acheron, Biohazard, Dark Retribution, Gran Faust, Maskeraith, Bomb Focus II Perk, Elite Sword Focus Module, Penta-Heart Pendant.
My usual RT setup.
Mercurial Demo set, Grey Owlite Shield, Divine Avenger, Polaris, Warmaster Rocket Hammer, Gran Faust, Maskeraith, Grounding II Perk, Penta-Heart Pendant (x2).

Really Dibs? What happened to your Chaos everything strategy?

"What happened to your Chaos everything strategy?"
I got bored.
But I still give a special exception to FSC because it's boring as [redacted]. There's no way to make it fun for me, so I still use Chaos.
Don't judge me.

If you got bored, maybe you should possibly prepare to continue that Promising Proto Prodigies line.

I am on often. It's these time zones you see.
Maybe you should reconsider DR's near Gremlin Demos. /look

Haha--let's not do that. Much like what Bopp said at the beginning, if you have more questions on gear, first search your question on Google first. More often than not the questions brought up in the Arsenal have been answered many times before in the past. The sword guide Bopp provided actually gave you the detailed information on your sword and armor questions; don't disregard it.
As for your gear, you're pretty much set. Have fun.

Kay then, but I'd like to hear about you're loadout in Jk, LD,Rt,SB and Vans too, shadow star. Also, is the fallen set good? I of my bff's got it and they said it was pretty decent against shadow places and van a but he did die at vans like 1-2 times. Also, wut about the jelly set? Or the ice queen one? My guild mate chawkthree said also that the volcanic plate was nice. Lol I'm getting outta topic but pls help. :O

I meant vana not vans my android is trying to correct me I am typing on my nexus 7

"Also, is the fallen set good?"
Nope.
"Also, wut about the jelly set?"
Nope.
"Or the ice queen one?"
Actually a pretty decent set, but Skolver is better and much easier to obtain
"My guild mate chawkthree said also that the volcanic plate was nice."
It's great for FSC, but as far as I know it has little to zero use outside of it.

I'd have to agree vog is the standard first set. RJP is only tier 2, so grinding it with vog instead of skolver isn't bad at all. You get to grind vana much more easily in vog rather than skolver though. Vog is also a must in LD if you don't have asi'd weapons and you play as striker with swords.
Also, am I really on that much? :I
This week is an exception because I burned out my play laptop's trackpad and it's currently under repair. Last week was also an exception because I was temp banned for spam buying vees (I bought them because it was hilarious to have a ton, I never sold one).

Lol, but the. I already got my first piece of vog, the coat. For the cap, I might get Vog as well. For shield, every1 said the owlite 5 star sheild. I guess, yea I'm going with that but I am not getting Acheron because slags are strong to shadow and Combuster, fire comes and fire is no use in FSC. My friend firekillerz, who is in the guild Altosk with my friend Xenon-Sntax. He said since glacius is freeze, not fire, at least it will work against slags and almirian guard things. Also it deals elemental which is good, so I might be getting glacius. Are there any other element dealing sword other than DA?

I use a combuster on purpose at vana because it lets me make sure slags don't get caught in my face. Freeze and shock will lock slags in your face sometimes when you charge brandish them. Combuster can let you keep a distance so their fire breath has no effect. I used to use a DA or hammer, then switched to glacius/voltedge, and now combuster. DA is annoying as balls as you can't double hit them or they jump on you. Hammer can fling you into them if you aren't perfect on shield canceling it, not to mention lower dps than a brandish charge. Voltedge and glacius cause slags to be stuck in your face spamming fire. Combuster is definitely best pony for me there.

I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but literally, all your answers (and likely all the rest you may post) can be found on the guides on the wiki (and there's older threads that have answered your questions already if you searched on Google). Not trying to deter you from posting questions, but stuff here has been addressed so many times that some went out of the way to make guides to help with decisions so you won't have to post "erryday". Make use of them! :>

Yes, riding the wave is another factor. Teamwork to make the other swords op? Yeah, the average pub doesn't carry a vortex and people push stuff into you in pub runs anyhow (there's always a mr. Polaris)
Yup,same findings myself on the hammer. It's precarious to use and annoying to shield cancel every time.

That's funny, there's a lot of times where parties have 2+ EVs, like how many Voltedges there are out there now too. Maybe these players died out from old age. I honestly couldn't tell you, I FSC spam no longer.
...but anyway, if one dedicates theirself enough, you can carry your own EV so errybody and can use as zombie bones fly all over and everyone treats you like a hero! And, if you have enough CTR on both weapons, you can use it by your lonesome and feel spectacular! There's really nothing more satisfying than that, haha.

I feel that I don't need a vortex bomb (shocked slags from electron line causing 'stuck in your face slags' and public parties often don't kill the slags before they get flung out by the end explosion). Namely if you have AT on turn it off at vana. You can position your charges better for more slag coverage without AT than with it on. I'll turn AT on for devilites, but I sure won't on slags. Not to mention sometimes ill do vana solo when the public parties are suckier than usual (or if you pretend to fight and just run around and occasionally Polaris spam I'll leave to solo). Anyhow, with AT off you can approach the number of slags as with when combining it with a vortex. Also that wheel destroy trick fails usually with AT on, whereas it'll work easily without it.

Don't shield cancel it or use Proto Shield. If you're going to do the former, I definitely recommend using as much ASI as you can so that you can hit and dash away again to dodge as soon as possible. Swiftstrike is excellent for that role as it provides High ASI and has little use in terms of workikng as an actual shield either way.

Then that moment you don't shield cancel and you wind up flinging yourself into the fire traps. Combuster keeps your distance while a hammer literally wants you to put your face into them. Guess which one is easier at avoiding slag breath. Chaos set pairs up nicely with the fire breath avoidance of combuster

That's an over exaggeration, the community isn't nearly as incompetent as you make it sound. The majority of the players run around charge spamming brandishes, and if they see an EV, they flock to it while it's doing it's job and release a charge then (rarely is a charge released before it even goes off) , which kills them, if not, heavily damage them to critical condition where you then finish them off with regular attacks. The shock is just something you have to get used to (double edged type of thing), distance yourself enough to do a charge attack while the slags aren't mid-attack themselves. It's not necessary, no, but it speeds up runs significantly.
The only time in my experience where there AREN'T people doing that is when people dropping Shivermist and using Polaris to shove them out of the radius. I'm not sure why you're talking about AT though, I never mentioned using AT at all. :>

I mention AT because brandish charges tend to only line up with a single slag with AT on. Disabling it lets you adjust the angle of attack rather than having it heavily aliased to one direction. I do public runs a lot, mileage does vary, but there's a lot of people who still don't have a grasp at fsc yet. In any case, I have my own solo load out that doesn't rely on having teammates, guess I'm just used to not relying on a party (way too many parties fall apart and go from 4 to solo... I help 4 stars at vana a lot). It's usually faster for me if I solo, even though monster health only goes up 33% hp for each additional party member. Yes, tons of those "just became vanguard" parties exist and I do join them. And no, shock influence is still rng based, and still can make slags get stuck in your face where it's hard to maneuver. There's reasons I use a combuster after thousands of hours at vana. Shock is very useful at UFSC though (harder to keep distance at UFSC than it is at fsc).

So, is Acheron still good for vana? Even though its shadow themed? Same with Combuster? Hmm, kay. So, ur saying that the glacius freezes enemies in ur face and Combuster just fires them? Kay. Wit about Blitzy needl?
If I were to make an awesome weapon choice what should I go with?
Final Flourish
Combuster
Blitz Needle (Blitzy needl)
Acheron
Glacius
Deadly candy poky/poker
Any other thing you reccomend vanawise (tell me though)
BTW: I am talking for a nice weapon for FSC/vanawise
The other thing is, my friend gave me the 3500 CE for getting his 3 star certificate 2 day, and I went and got vog and used the rest eng to buy an vog cap recipient. The only thing now, is a decent weapon for the FSC.
So, acheron does really deal more, I guess. But does Combuster deal more? Or blitz? I am looking for the strongest weapon for FSC and Vana, the STRONGEST weapon.

If you only could use two weapons at vana,
I'd go with combuster and blitz
My other two weapons for weapons 3 and 4 are Polaris and shiver. Shiver because I am le lazy with trojans (lets me spawn kill all of them while solo) and Polaris for the wheels (although it can be done with brandish charges too and I don't use the Polaris much anymore).
For the actual armor set, it'd be chaos.
For the shield, it'd be owlite.
For the trinkets, I'd say fire and/or gun damage.
For pet perk, it'd be fire.
The reason I use fire trinkets and perks over hp is that a penta heart equip matters less the deeper you go. Proportionally to your actual hp in tier 1 it's god mode, but in tier 3 it's about on par with fire resist trinkets.... If you actually do math on your fire resist and comes out to positive. Around 5 seconds of fire on a usual fire breath hit is where I draw the line on equipping more fire resist. It gets harder to reduce it beyond 3 seconds ish and becomes negligible to reducing it further around the 5 second point. Basically if you do it wrong you'll still take massive damage from fire, but done right it acts like proper defense so even though you have less hp than with Pentas, you'll take less per fire hit. I think around 5 to 7 seconds is where there's a magic resist number where fire tinks have their dps reduced so you don't take massive hits from burning.

No, I know how brandishes work, I don't use AT on them when charging cause you do miss enemies in the clockers. I'm not gonna argue the party thing, it varies; I get the opposite when it comes to parties, much more sensible folk.
I'm not sure why you think that EV = party weapon though, it does work when you're alone, arguably better since you're the only one with aggro, you just need enough CTR on both EV and Voltedge to do so. When you do, you become a slag killing machine, greater than a Combuster by it's lonesome where you have to charge the whole group of 'nearly' clumped enemies that you can't hit all point-blanck, then do 2-3 more charges to finish them, then a few whacks to the stragglers. Why do that when you could just clump them with EV and Voltedge charge them point-blank then do a quick combo when they stagger from the charge? Combuster beats the combo when you can't use it or when it's not necessary, making it the absolute best all around, sure, but even Combuster's charges can't beat the mob clearing ability Voltedge + EV has in FSC.
Yeah, shock is RNG based and it blocks your path sometimes, but if you're using EV, they're being concentrated into one area, allowing you to move out of the way (unless you're in a narrow spot) and use the charge attack when you deem it's safe to move in and do that, which is why people kite around charging so the slags aren't even doing an attack because you're not in range for them to even do so.
If you're the Voltedge + EV it incorrectly by:
-Dropping EV directly in front of a slag's swiping range.
-Dropping EV dead center in the middle of an already spawned group slags.
-Voltedge charging while a slag is in mid-swipe.
...you're of course gonna get hit. It's not really the shock's fault, you were just in the wrong place/timing was off.
Vog Cub.
Better for both PvE and PvP.
Skolver may seem better for LD, but Vog Cub is better if you don't have enough money to roll ASI UVs on your weapons, because all the tryhards in there will murder you before you can even hit them.