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"Pickups vacuum to you" ... problem ...

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Sat, 09/07/2013 - 11:38
Khyel's picture
Khyel

"Changes
Hearts, materials, pickups and other loot vacuum to you similar to crowns and heat. "

This is one of the content of the last updates.

I agree that mat and heat vaccum to our knight .... but why heart and vials ?
I am quite a good player and i know how to pichup heart in a correct way to survive the longest i can. Just for those who don't know what i am talking about : When you take damage and when those damage are highr than the rest of your health, the damages are reduced in order to let you only 1 health point. So, some heart you pickup are useless because, at the next hit, you will have the same health as if you didn't pickup the last heart ...
But now we can't manage to use this computing.
Also : why vials are vacuum to our knight ? there are hundreds of vials I have had to throw to take the one i want. The worst thing is when you pickup a mecha knight and you don't want it ... You have to use it to pickup the correct vial .. and until the end of the level, the mecha will folow you. And many players hate mecha ! We don't want one, they are useless and they bring to you all the monsters ... I died once, cause of a mecha my knight picked up ...

So please, remove the useless feature (for the hearts and vials only) ...
Or make it optionnal ...

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 11:47
#1
Commonforumtroll

No

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 11:58
#2
Bopp's picture
Bopp
interesting point

You raise an interesting point. I hadn't thought of it that way. But it's a pretty small "defect" in the game. There are many bugs and features that I'd like them to work on, before getting around to this one.

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 12:15
#3
Dz-Shot's picture
Dz-Shot
+1 Khyel

+1 Khyel

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 12:15
#4
Jwake's picture
Jwake
muffins...

Yeah I had a thought about this after the update first came out.. maybe if a few more voices show interest it will get paid attention to. http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/88445

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 12:24
#5
Sirius-Voltbreaker's picture
Sirius-Voltbreaker
Welll if im in a hard place i don't use harts or vials until

I have lost my ER

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 12:25
#6
Paweu's picture
Paweu
It was added for when the

It was added for when the stuff drops on the damaging bushes/traps, as simple as that. Your request is unreasonable.

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 12:34
#7
Khyel's picture
Khyel
@Paweu

I have played for 2 years at Spiral Knight.
And i haven't met any situation in which i wasn't able to pick up my vials ... If the vials are in a trap or in a brush, i just have to destroy it or wait until i can pick it up.
My request IS reasonnable.

Even if players think this isn't a problem. The devs can make it optionnal.

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 12:39
#8
Heavy-Dragon's picture
Heavy-Dragon
The next time a Book of Dark Rituals Drops on the other side-

of a force field, this mechanic will be lauded.

until then, its an inconvenience for people saving hearts/not wanting vials.

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 12:44
#9
Paweu's picture
Paweu
Exploiting a game mechanic is

Exploiting a game mechanic is against the ToS so who knows if people abusing the last stand weren't supposed to be hit with that. Either way, everyone who plays the game legitimately without trying to find something that will give you more advantage than picking a proper defense doesn't suffer from this.

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 12:51
#10
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Little-Juances

"I have played for 2 years at Spiral Knight.
And i haven't met any situation in which i wasn't able to pick up my vials ... If the vials are in a trap or in a brush, i just have to destroy it or wait until i can pick it up."

You've never been to lichenous lairs then. Rooms full of brambles (that deal less than 1 pip of damage anyways)

Say, what would happen if you bump and enemy and finish it with a gun right in the middle? (you don't even have to, since it's scattered around)
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/File:Exploration-Brambles.png

OOO did fix a similar problem but with shadow fire since that's a solid trap, but left out brambles.

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 13:19
#11
Voza-Il's picture
Voza-Il
Well, the plus side is that

Well, the plus side is that you will now find more invisible materials.

I agree, ta away heart and vial suction. Everything else is fine.

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 14:47
#12
Khyel's picture
Khyel
OPTIONNAL

The devs can make it optionnal.
I said i agree for the mats which are vacuumed to you. I just disagree for the vials and hearts. I think we must be in control of what our knight do. I prefer having to loose some HP in order to control my loots.

@Paweu
About "game mechanic exploitation" ... You are right, i will stop using this trick and all the equivalent tricks including "shield cancel", is it what you want ?

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 15:00
#13
Paweu's picture
Paweu
Yes, please do, by all means.

Yes, please do, by all means.

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 15:14
#14
Khyel's picture
Khyel
@Paweu

You know, i consider you as a troll ... But something which is quite nice with you is that you give me a "bump" each time you post a comment ;)

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 15:28
#15
Paweu's picture
Paweu
I think you are the troll

I think you are the troll here since you call a feature "useless" because you simply don't understand it's purpose while defending your exploiting standpoint.

Sat, 09/07/2013 - 17:59
#16
Oatmonster's picture
Oatmonster
Lick Number 58425

I don't know about vials, but as far as mecha knight kits go, why not let us blow them up?

@Paweu, I've been exploiting this game mechanic called commonly called knockback to avoid being hit by enemies. Should I be worried about account termination?

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