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Mix master use or sell?

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Sat, 09/06/2014 - 10:10
Nipperjoe

I'm a poor 5* player with so so gear but i was lucky enough to get a mixmaster in a price box. So i wanted to see what people think would it be better for me to sell it and fill in the gaps in my arsenal (blitz needle,shiv,etc) with the money or use the weapon and just farm for the other stuff.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 10:40
#1
Mtax-Forum's picture
Mtax-Forum
Sell it.

Let's face the facts first:
-It's only one gun which use is pretty situational.
-It's worth 2 millions crowns.

So I say: Sell it. Why? Remember - It's only one weapon. It's not some thing that will allow you to beat everything without effort - Sure, it have exploits, but they should be patched soon, don't look at this gun in this way. For the price you will get EVERY piece of equipment you wish. Not all items in game, but it's enough to have few weapons and armors of every damage type and a lot will you will still have after this for UVs, cosmetics, weapon/trinket slots, sparks, et cetera. Trust me - One weapon isn't worth almost all wishes that normal "poor" player has. You will not even have to grind and you just can jump into playing totally for fun and make profit by arcade.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 12:00
#2
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

With the exception of its buggy abilities to shoot through walls, shields, gates as well as never trigger the "bullet reaction" of mecha knights and wolvers, the mixmaster is about as good as storm driver and only somewhat better than polaris.

If you sell it, you'll have "600,000" crowns to purchase... radiants, I guess. I mean, you could also get orbs? UV rolls? Honestly crowns are kind of mediocre when it comes to purchasing gear now, but you know that.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 13:09
#3
Tiroth's picture
Tiroth
...

Sell it.

To me (it's the only way I'll ever get one ;_; ).

More seriously, it depends. If you think you could get a lot of use out of it, or ever want to go full gunslinger, keep it - you're unlikely to ever get another one. But if you're primarily a swordie, or prefer a hybrid style, then the more standard guns will probably serve you better, and selling it right now would let you afford a couple of them.

Personally, I'd keep it - but then, I play almost pure gunslinger, and those things look like a very nice addition to my arsenal.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 13:26
#4
Dreamless-Reaper's picture
Dreamless-Reaper
It depends

Personally i bidded my mixer for 1.5 million cr + because i finally can get a gun with new mechanics so if you are a person like me that looks for new weapons with mechanics and not cr you might as well keep it but if you don't really care about the gun or not even use it sell it.

Its best that you sell it for 1 million cr + some players might be willing to offer more ;)

Plus with the cr you will get you will be able to get lots of good things :3

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 15:26
#5
Bopp's picture
Bopp
hard to say

To answer this question, we must know whether you value this item more than other players do. That's hard to say, because we don't know you.

But here's an idea. Are you really into this game, and planning to play it until you are super-veteran with most of the items collected? If so, then keep the gun, so that you don't have to get it later. It's a fine gun anyway. If not, then sell the gun, use it to buy boring but powerful items such as Brandishes and Chaos, utterly defeat the game, and be done with it.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 17:56
#6
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

@Bopp

Wouldn't the OP only have to value it more than she values other alternatives, scaled by how much other players value the item?

For instance, I value your clothing more than you do. But you won't sell them to me because you value your clothing more than whatever else you'd buy with the money I'd give you.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 18:19
#7
Trats-Romra's picture
Trats-Romra

Keep it.

Why?
It's rare and fun. It's better keep a rare cool thing than sell it for a lot of common stuff. Maybe you feel fault of it on future, when you get all of the general stuff. Just maybe.

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 19:52
#8
Bopp's picture
Bopp
Fehzor

In theory, there exists a selling price that perfectly measures how much the original poster values this item.

And, for each other player, there exists a buying price that measure how much that player values the item. Some of these players can be reached by the original poster through /trade messages, Bazaar posts, etc. Some of those players have enough crowns at their disposal to actually execute the purchase. These "feasible" players imply an overall buying price.

The question posed by this and similar threads is: "Which is bigger: the original poster's selling price, or the feasible players' buying price?"

The answer is: How should we know, without detailed knowledge of the original poster?

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 20:09
#9
Midnight-Dj's picture
Midnight-Dj
:/

If you have the rads to heat it to lvl 10, keep it.

If you don't have the rads to heat it to lvl 10, sell it.

Ahhh...I will buy it at a HIGH price ~ Merchant from Resident Evil 4

Sat, 09/06/2014 - 21:26
#10
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

How should we know, without detailed knowledge of the original poster?

Just do what I do. Make up a back story for the OP on the spot, and go with it.

I'm thinking like a slum dog millionaire situation for Nipperjoe. She was born in India, saw some rock star, traveled the world, stole people's shoes... and in her spare time, she plays Spiral Knights. OP is also a pool shark, drives a testarossa, and is a huge fan of NASCAR. Such an individual would clearly value the item quite a bit more than most people would, and should keep it.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 05:17
#11
Bopp's picture
Bopp
still need to know

We'd still need to know the color of the Testarossa.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 08:20
#12
Exerpa's picture
Exerpa
Sell now or use and sell

Sell now or use and sell later minus unbind costs. But remember, waiting is a gamble.

For the gun to retain its ultra-premium price then you are speculating that this 2-week box sale will be the only way this class of item will ever enter the system. But if they release a functionally identical but visually different craftable gun in the future, then you lost out on significant profit in exchange for being an early adopter.

And if the exact same gun gets re-released through more traditional methods, well then, prepare to kick yourself. Hard.

Sun, 09/07/2014 - 08:21
#13
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

@Bopp

Sort of a heavy blue colour, inspired by Eiffel 65.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 09:55
#14
Veridiandynamics's picture
Veridiandynamics
Offering

I'm offering 20KCE for your Mixmaster.
IGN: Reedneir

Edit: actually scratch that i just bought one :)

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 10:58
#15
Noxiousnarwhal's picture
Noxiousnarwhal
To mix or not to mix

Hey there. I'm a gunner who uses a mixer often as well as someone who buys/sells a lot of stuff, so hopefully I'll be able to help you with that dilemma. You might need to provide a bit more information for anyone to really be able to help you make that decision, but first let's talk about what the mixer actually does and you can see how it'd fit into your playstyle.

What's it do that other guns don't?
- Highest single target DPS of any gun in the game (double the dps of a polaris at close range)
- Currently bugged to shoot through walls at close range (this includes trojan/dreadnaught shields)
- Projectiles have a very long lifespan, making it extremely useful against enemies that would normally move around a lot (devilites/greavers/kats)
- Does not trigger mecha-knights' shield

Other pros
- High shock chance due to hitting twice
- Strong mid-range area control in lockdown
- No knockback (you can rip enemies apart without ever worrying about them being knocked out of range)
- Very wide shot arcs

Cons
- Very wide shot arcs (enemies with shields on their backs will occasionally block the shots due to them arcing into the shields)
- No knockback (the polaris' knockback, while not ideal for clear times, gives you the benefit of controlling enemy positions)
- Weaker against 2+ targets than polaris
- Lower range than most guns
- Will glitch if you are too close to an enemy and do the whole "shoot through walls" thing. In other words, your shots may pass through an enemy completely (enemies with shields on their backs will block the shots at close range due to them passing through the enemies and hitting their shields)

The weapon does a very similar job as a polaris, but handles single targets better than groups and comes with a few quirky mechanics of its own. If you're the type of person who wants a weapon ideal for any given situation, the mixer is amazing - it handles single targets much faster than any other gun in the game. If you don't care too much about your clear speeds or prefer to use swords, just make a polaris as your backup weapon instead - it'll do nearly the same job, and is easier to use since it provides positioning rather than relying on yours.

If you decide to sell it, mixmasters are currently going for 1.6-2m cr.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 12:17
#16
Fehzor's picture
Fehzor

This thread is a bit on the old side...

@Noxious

The reason why I was quick to discount its high damage is because it does that damage at a short range, and lacks the charge and crowd control of the alchemers. You might be getting less damage per hit with alchemers, but you have a bit more range and a much better charge, so there are still a good many situations that would prefer the alchemers straight up.

Except for the ridiculous wallhacks and not making stuff dodge and all of that. Those factors make the gun the ultimate utility.

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