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The Jelly Palace needed it. It's supposed the hardest set of levels in Tier 2 (it has the Tier 2 boss) and it was far too easy.

The fact that other folks are recommending guarding/shielding demonstrates this. 2* players shouldn't be running the Jelly Palace unless they know what they're doing.

Bosses are placed at the very end of a Tier, meaning you're likely to need a bit better gear than just the minimum to have access to that Tier.

When the Snarbolax was released they said something along the lines of, ''We recommend that you have 'mastery' of Tier 1 before fighting him''. Because bosses are -not- for total beginners, nor those with little experience of the particular enemies of the area.

Jelly King is a Tier 2 boss, however it's recommended that you be in 3~4* before setting foot in his levels unless you know what you're doing, but knowing what you're doing really only applies to the stages, not Jelly King himself as being poorly equipped will still spell the end for you. So what they said about Snarbolax also applies to every other boss in the game: Only attempt them after feeling you've got the proper skills and equipment.

idk - I have a char who has a troika, blaster, wolver cap / coat, and an owlite shield, all 2* eqiups.

I can do everything except jelly king on him.

So I think this is more of a "l2p" thing... You don't take damage if you don't get hit, which should ALWAYS be your first line of defense.

I'm 5*, I hated regular jellies... things just got worse lol.

I much rather kill two or three treemans solo D:

Holy-Aether

''Obviously, I know how to use a shield. But you can't shield all the time, you have to attack. And in that moment you're attacking, you can get hit. I'm not a noob, been around since beta, thanks -.-''

Yes, the same applies for -all- monsters: You always have a chance of being hit. You get hit far less when you learn enough tactics to avoid attacks while still dealing them out.
Also, how long you play doesn't necessarily mean you're any skilled at something. Practice makes perfect, but some people need to practice far more than others before they get good.

''Anyways, 2-3 armor is what tier 2 is supposed to be for, no? I would consider someone with all 3 star armor to have mastered the tier. With 4-5 star, tier 2 is just easy.''

2* is the -minimum- for the Tier itself, but 2* is -not- recommend for Jelly King as the boss levels plus the bosses themselves are meant to be harder than normal levels found on that Tier. The recommended gear is 3*+ for Jelly King, and even then it's also recommended you fight him in a decent group. Soloing a boss is obviously possible but it's not recommended.

''I find the rest of tier 2 very easy, all the monsters (except these spiky jellies) give ample warning of attack, and are very predictable.''

Jelly Cube spikes also give ample warning before attacking, however some players don't pay enough attention to their surroundings to notice it, or they just lag (Though this isn't Three Rings' fault). A crack in the ground comes up, a second later a spike comes out, that's just like Retrode attacks, so why not complain about those also? A Retrode fires a beam that does no damage, then it's immediately followed by a beam that does damage, and a lot of players don't have enough time to react to this. Strategy for that? Don't stay in front of them while they're firing. Strategy for Jelly Cubes? Stay close enough to them so they don't even use their spike attack.

''btw, how many of you replying have actually tried it with 2-3 star gear?''

Other people have noticed no problems in other threads similar to this very unoriginal one, and they were using 2~3* gear.

''If no, then at least give it a try so you can see from my perspective.''

Equipment doesn't make as much difference as skill does, which is why even on my alt character, when using Proto gear still, was able to easily solo entire Danger Rooms and Arenas. By the sounds of it the only way I can get a view from your perspective is if I somehow drop down in skill.

2* gear is for the first half of T2.
3* gear is for the second half. you need to level it for it to be most effective there.
4*/5* gear is for T3. It's as strong on level 1 as it is on level 10 in T2.

I did about half as much damage with a 2* weapon as I did with a leveld 3* weapon (or just 4*/5* weapons) in jelly stages last time I tried stuff out.
so basically, get 3* gear and level it and you are near the optimum for jelly king. Stat wise. But 2* weapons perform really bad there.

edit: and I'm totally supporting everything that makes the most crown generating place harder to access. (I still dont like spikes on jelly cubes for esthetic reasons ;_;)

And vanaduke should be as easy as snarbolax with 5* equip too right?

Just don't dare to compare anything to snarbolax because he's made for people who are new to the game. Even if snarbolax took half your health per hit his difficulty would be insultingly low.

I just hope that Royal Palace getting harder will stop people from basically just running JK then all those people complaining about no content will actually start getting to the actual content. This isn't WoW and we aren't chinese gold farmers.

personally, I loathe 70% of the regular stages for being starved for enemies and easy peasy.
and the novelty of the other stages wears off eventually.
so one is left with not playing or playing whatever gives the most crowns/time or crowns/energy.

so that's what I'm doing. oh well, at least the new T2 boss should be a piece of novelty and potentially an efficient run!

I never liked clockworks tunnels. (edit: the things with the gear icon; also not liked by me:devilish drugery, gremlin stages that aren't demolition zone)
And I stopped playing kind of. I like dropping by in a jk/vana run tho if I happen to log on for some reason, and someone is doing one.
also "burned out" is a bit of a euphemism for "ran out of things that seem beneficial" the way you use it.

edit: also there's nothing to grind in this game. which is a nice touch in a way.

i lol'd @ "don't want people to use full combos."

that's like saying "omg, gun puppies are so cheap because i can't use striker's charge attack on them without getting hit bawruerhfads small slashes should interrupt their attacks D:"
And now, I declare the following to have the same validity as the first post:

With 4-5 star gear, Vanaduke is really hard now
These new falling wheels and fire have ruined it for people who aren't above tier 4 already. Unless you use some tactics that will take a really long time, it is waaay too difficult for 4-5 star gear like seraphic armor. First off, they are spiky. Second, the wheels are really random, and sometimes I get hit even when I think I'm in a safe spot. It's so unpredictable, especially with other monsters around and with the large groups of them in the Firestone Citadel, it's really hard to defend against. I understand the need for variety, like gremlins, but these is just terrible. If the whole floor lighted up so you could see the wheels coming 3 seconds ahead of time, rather than wheels just coming down, it would be much better. Also, why make it more difficult with fire? If people want difficulty, what was the point of making the tiers in the first place, separating them from higher levels? It is very unbalanced now, and I liked it much better with no falling wheels and fire in the way. That is all.

I wish they introduced places for that charge to be usable or for it to be just remade.

I enjoyed the slight advantage of sometimes using full combo of a heavy sword over 2 hit shield cancel versus slimes. (movement, wider arc, more damage, higher knockback/crowd control; actually nice to use it when you can hit all the slimes without one jumping out of line to wobble at you) now I dont think it's particularly practical anywhere anymore. Slimes just loiter around till they feel like spiking you at random.

Nice for you to think it's fun they are equally useless now. ;_;

Indeed, its seems like people who actually complain about the jellies aren't getting anywhere.