Calling out two major scammers(and OOO)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lun, 07/11/2011 - 06:39
I know this is against SK Forum rules but this has to be done. [EDIT: No, no, it doesn't.]
Last night I was told by a player named "[redacted]" that if I (Imafiretrukingator) were to buy [redacted]'s Virulisk Suit for her (She could not buy it as she claimed she claimed she was blocked by him or couldn't get her trade offer in to him)(Assuming) I would get a profit of 100-300kcr and 100-200CE as she stated in whispers or tells. I proceeded to make a deal with the seller [redacted]Trading him a UV HIGH UNDEAD Fireburst Brandish and 1 Sun Silver,1 Reaper Rib, 1 Trojan Horsinvolvedhoe, 1 Royal Core and 5 Rocky Core in addition to around 800CR and 24CE(more mats were involved in the deal not as valuable,though). I purchased the Virulisk Suit for her. When I went to trade it with her she rejected the trade saying she will add 30kCR if i buy the Angelic Helm he was selling too. I replied telling her that i had no money to buy it from him and that she said just the suit. Shen then said I Broke the deal and refused to pay-up.[redacted] wouldn't re-fund me and later the night [redacted] asked if i would liek some "nude" pics of her ( I declined). Upset i logged off to return this morning to a good Online friend Greekjr(on forums greekjr14) saying that he had bought a UV HIGH UNDEAD Fireburst Brandish last night and wanted to sell it. I declined and we chatted about other things, then recognizing it was the same sword I got scammed from I told him my story and he had a very similar story to buying which was infact, my brandish. I will let him explain it down below. As we were discussing it another player(Helstar) said he witnessed some one getting scammed and almost got scammed himself and as I am typing this a friend (Rathorn) wanted me to join a game with him. Since typing this I decline saying i got scammed and was doing something big. I told my story and he said they tried to scam him too.
Now I will talk about OOO
OOO Support is as about reliable as a condom you buy from a crack head in a back-alley in NYC!
Helstar stated that he reported them too. He said "I thought my report would be enough but they are still out there.
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I'm calling everybody who has been scammed by [redacted] and [redacted] to post their story down below!!!!!!!!!!!
Lun, 07/11/2011 - 07:16
#2
I reported both as well for a
I reported both as well for a similar thing. [redacted] told me she was on a newb account because she ran out her spending limit on her main. She asked if I would be kind enough to buy a Fireburst Brandish UV High against Undead from [redacted] (she said she was blocked by him) and then she would give me the exact same amount of crowns if not more than what I gave to [redacted] (which was 120k). When I went to trade with her she said she thought 120k meant 120 "Krowns" and refused to pay me, and then [redacted] refused to give me a refund after I told him what happened. Later that day I just tried selling the Fireburst Brandish (I even have it up for sale in the Bazaar section) to my friend Cereal here. Apparently the Fireburst Brandish that [redacted] sold to me was the same one that Cereal traded to him. Cereal understands this is against the rules, but like he said, they had been reported at least 5 times from people I talked to that got scammed out by these 2 working together, and they are still scamming people. Even someone from a well known guild (forgot who it was) was following them Haven to Haven yelling that they were scammers.
EDIT: One guy that I remember being scammed around the same time as me was [redacted] in game. I do not know his forums name, but if he or anyone else would tell their story about getting hacked by these 2 then I would like to hear them.
Lun, 07/11/2011 - 07:14
#3
@wfawwer
they work together as a team i checked it out with many playerss
Lun, 07/11/2011 - 07:21
#4
Its your own fault. End of
Its your own fault. End of story.
Lun, 07/11/2011 - 07:24
#5
Hi, I'm Helstar.
Hi, I'm Helstar! Yes, I did witness some strange activities from the two individuals, [redacted] and [redacted] . For a while I suspected them of being the same person, but they move at the same time so that does not seem to be the case. However, their scam circle is rather well-coordinated, so surely they must know eachother.
See, here's what happened. [redacted] was selling some low-level Sword, 1* I believe, a Bolted Blade, for about 10k Cr. [redacted] wanted to buy it for 25k Cr but apparently [redacted] was ignoring her for being a "stupid girl" or something. I tried to negotiate a trade between them and failed. I told [redacted] that if she were to give me the money first, I would trade with [redacted] . She wouldn't do so. Eventually I declined to trade at all, because I knew it was a scam based on the inability of either of them to work out a deal that wouldn't give a big risk to the third party involved. (In this case, I would have had to pay 10k Cr for something that was worth about 800 Cr, and I highly doubt that [redacted] would have traded me the 25k Cr afterwards.)
As for what I said in your post, that's a misquote, but it's roughly accurate, yes. I do believe I complained at least one of them, and I certainly have had both on ignore for a while now. I think the best thing to do here is just complain on them, but I don't know how well it'll work when half the conversation is in /tell and requires a specific context that probably doesn't work as well read through a chatlog. OOO's support service might be working on handling the issue at the moment, or they could be on break or asleep, I don't know.
I'm sorry that this happened to you, while I was fortunate enough to back out of the deal given to me by [redacted] /[redacted] . But I don't know if this topic will do anything --- aside from alert players to the presence of these people. And while that is a venerable motive for a topic, to ensure that less people are bothered by those two individuals, it does appear to be against form rules here. If reports and complaints fail, I have to wonder what can be done in a situation like this.
Lun, 07/11/2011 - 07:28
#6
If I were you guys I would
If I were you guys I would just not even pay attention to any character with the words 'girl' 'gurl' or 'grrl' in their name.
Regardless of how 'hawt' they are or how much 'u' allegedly likes them.
Lun, 07/11/2011 - 07:28
#7
If I do not get my crowns
If I do not get my crowns back, then oh well, I can just sell the sword or keep it and upgrade it. I just want to make sure that everyone else knows of this and does not make the same mistake as Cereal and I did.
Lun, 07/11/2011 - 07:29
#8
Oh shoebox :P lol
Oh shoebox :P lol
Lun, 07/11/2011 - 07:39
#9
@Shoebox @ Greekjr14
@Shoebox I was doing it for the money....
@Greekjr14 Man u got my sword
Lun, 07/11/2011 - 07:43
#10
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
I was doing it for the money....
THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID
Lun, 07/11/2011 - 07:44
#11
Don't lie Truk, you wanted ze
Don't lie Truk, you wanted ze nudes :P and I know I got your sword. I will be happy to give it back to you for something of equal value xD
Lun, 07/11/2011 - 07:56
#12
When you send in a report,
When you send in a report, one of two things happens.
1. The GM reviews the logs attached to the report, finds that the person did violate the ToS, and applies the appropriate penalty.
2. The GM reviews the logs attached to the report, finds nothing to support the claim that the person violated the ToS, and closes the report.
Even if it doesn't look like something happened as a result of your report, a warning might have been applied if it was a first offence. Reporting does not automatically equal an insta-ban, and I think we can all agree that's a good thing.
Having looked at the reports on these two individuals, I can see that a lot fewer of you have reported them than are claiming to here. Furthermore, there is nothing in the logs that points to scamming behavior. The logs do go back quite a way, and yet in some of these reports there's not even any chat from the accused.
My advice is this: if you get scammed, DO report, and do report promptly.
If you know it's against the rules, then don't post-just send a complaint.
I don't think you could consider [redacted] a scammer. From what i read he didn't give you a refund. That's not scamming. Yes, he could be nice and trade you back, but once you click the Trade! button, you accept that you will not get your items back. (btw, your brandish would be more than equal to a virulisk suit...)
[redacted] however...