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A third line for the antigua, Piercing!!!

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Thu, 01/10/2013 - 20:41
Foggy's picture
Foggy

I want a 5* piercing line for the antigua :[

Honestly, there's only two (well 3 but two of them are the same shooting style) 5* piercing guns and I think a piercing line for the antigua would be a great idea considering the other two guns leave you incredibly vulnerable. Honestly I'd take any other type of 5* piercing gun at this time, something mobile at least!!

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 20:43
#1
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/38341

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 21:00
#2
Klipik's picture
Klipik

permission to necro that thread?

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 21:14
#3
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer

Granted. I wouldn't have mentioned it otherwise.

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 21:22
#4
Foggy's picture
Foggy
Huh

I thought it was a little strange there wasn't already a thread like this on the first page of this forum. Still makes me sad there's still no good piercing gun after all this time, sigh :[

Thu, 01/10/2013 - 22:58
#5
Exerpa's picture
Exerpa
What you realy are saying is

What you realy are saying is "I want to shoot wolvers with Sentenza/Devilites with AP, but I wish it was stronger". To decide if such a gun should exist, then you should try shooting said monsters with the current antigua lines and then conclude if it is as effective or less effective than just using a plain old blaster. Devilites tend to dodge from side to side, so the spray pattern of an autogun may be have a better hit to miss ratio. To land hit on wolvers everytime, you need to watch for when they make themselves open to attack, that is when they bark, charge at players or are knocked down by an attack.

Notice the Blitz needle shares the same relative damage per bullet as the AP/Sentenza, also each charged needle is the same relative damage as the golden/shadow eagles. So in some ways we have always had the pierce Antigua, just that its dps and mobility attributes are reversed.

If you want to shoot something that refuses to get shot, then perhaps heavy guns are the intended method - you might have a fair amount of failed shots but when you hit, you hit hard. Blitz, Callahan and Drivers (on Mecha knights) all suggest this.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 03:30
#6
Clwnbaby's picture
Clwnbaby
Um...............

Antiguas used to do piercing. Am I seriously the only one here who remembers that? They changed it and made them do pure elemental or shadow instead cause it was stupid they had split piercing dmg. Also all the enemies that are weak to piercing are either a pain to shoot or you dont want to shoot them at all (like wolvers!!!!) so again anymore piercing guns is pointless

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 04:16
#7
Psychodestroyer's picture
Psychodestroyer

"Also all the enemies that are weak to piercing are either a pain to shoot or you dont want to shoot them at all"

Incorrect. I shoot at everything with anything, even if only for nuisance effect. Devilites I sorely need a Gun for, Wolvers I can deal with however.

A fully useable weapon =/= pointless.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 05:13
#8
Knight-Of-India
good idea

This could be a good idea and since there is no gun in the entire game which can be crafted into any damage type. If this happens then i think the blitz might be in danger since it is the most used gun in FSC runs and the sole purpose people take it is to kill the trojans. So all in all i support this idea we really do need a gun which can be crafted into any damage type.

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 05:29
#9
Little-Juances's picture
Little-Juances

@Knight-Of-India I think you accidentally found the reason OOO wont make this gun
"there is no gun in the entire game which can be crafted into any damage type"
Swords either and bombs... shards do it, but in completely separated lines.

Why should this be an exception. Why an antigua and not a similar new gun line entirely (like shard bombs do).

Fri, 01/11/2013 - 06:21
#10
Zeddy's picture
Zeddy
@Little-Juances

You're going to have to show me the sword that can be crafted into any damage type.

Shard bombs are pretty much the only exception to this rule.

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