Will you be supplying details of the equipment obtainable through the boss' tokens?
Tier 1 lumber boss suggestion - Rockwood
Do, 03/21/2013 - 12:52
#6252
Do, 03/21/2013 - 13:10
#6253
Yeah, I might do that in the
Yeah, I might do that in the future but I'm pretty horrible at balancing items for this game so they will probably turn out pretty bad.
Do, 03/21/2013 - 13:31
#6254
+1
So this boss fight is similar to those mech generators like the assault on machine town 13 or whatever it was called? Because it's that or ghost in the machine that is what this boss makes me think of. I like the boss idea nonetheless. Lumbers do kind of need some leader and smaller relative like how wolvers,alpha wolvers,and snarby are...would there be variants to twigs if they might become regular enemies in the aurora isles?
Nonetheless I like the idea of a lumber-based boss.
Do, 03/21/2013 - 14:13
#6255
"This lumber is rock
"This lumber is rock hard"
-Duke Nukem, Playing Spiral Knights
Do, 03/21/2013 - 16:29
#6256
I'd redesign ol' Rockwood a
I'd redesign ol' Rockwood a bit. I'd position his cannon/face more near the base; at the moment, it seems more like he's going to menace us by firing bullets over our heads. I'd also give the stick arms joints; the standard Lumber's single joint works because it can bend as it attacks, allowing it's arm to hit ground level. Rockwood's arms start near the top, which leaves a good portion of the ground it can't hit due to it.
But otherwise, I'm looking forward to seein' more from this suggestion. I think you should still post up some armor and weapon ideas; you can have the forum members help you find ways to make it more balanced.
Do, 03/21/2013 - 21:28
#6257
Plate Shield = Boss Reward?
Fr, 03/22/2013 - 00:43
#6258
To post #4:I was thinking
To post #4:
I was thinking that twigs are similar to royal minis: they only appear on the boss floors. If they are added to the aurora isles however they would have variants (their looks would be similar to lumber variants).
To post #6:
I'll see what I can do. The problem is that once you move the arms above the mouth the arms start looking like ponytails, so the arms would have to be near the base so the mouth can be slightly above that.
Now for thinking up some weapons seeing how much they are requested: I will get back on this later today, but the first thing that comes to mind is a lumber-based shield. It would be a 2-star shield since the bristling buckler is also 2 stars. It can be obtained with 10 rocky fruits.
Since it's based on lumber, which is a construct, it would have piercing damage resistance. Since the darn things are made out of wood it has some negative resistance against fire (it would be the only shield with a negative resistance). Since it's still wood it would also have lower health than other shields. In trade for the loss of health and negative fire resistance the normal and piercing defense would be above average (using the defender as an average):
So in terms of exact stats:
By the way, I'm talking in terms of bars, the ones you see when looking at your gear.
Normal defense is 3.3 bars at level 1, 3.8 bars at level 10.
Piercing is 3.5 bars at level 1, 4 bars at level 10.
Health is about 2.5 bars.
Status resist: fire is -1 bar.
So compared to the 2-star defender is has about half a bar more normal defense, three quarters of a bar more piercing defense, but one bar less health and one negative fire resistance bar.
Fr, 03/22/2013 - 06:45
#6259
Interesting, and thanks for
Interesting, and thanks for getting to my question on the twigs.
I'm looking forward to see if three rings might take note of this! Besides if there was a shadow lair boss of this, might I suggest it be a polluted aurora spring, with silverwood? (what I see the boss as, but I know someone can think a better name than mine)
Fr, 03/22/2013 - 15:19
#6260
Currently the shadow lairs
Currently the shadow lairs have poison (rabid snarbolax), freeze (ice queen), fire (red roarmulus twins) and curse (Vanaduke) so I was thinking the shadow lair version of the aurora springs would be either sleep, stun or shock.
I'd say shock would be fitting, with all ponds and water streams being electrocuted (ones you have to cross will turn on and off like electricity tiles), the area darker in general and all enemies replaced with shock-inflicting enemies. Twigs would be replaced with electwigs (electreant versions of twigs). Rockwood will be replaced with Shockwood, an electreant version of rockwood, who inflicts shock via his bullets and smashes and has electwig and electreant spawners instead of twig and lumber spawners.
Fr, 03/22/2013 - 15:46
#6261
+1
This sounds like a fun idea.
Fr, 03/22/2013 - 17:01
#6262
Are any GMs reading this? I
Are any GMs reading this? I think this would be a great edition to the whole tier 1 experience.
Fr, 03/22/2013 - 18:26
#6263
shockwood +!
nice idea on the shadow lair. I'd assume stun to fit with my silverwood thing, but shockwood actually sounds better...and rhymes. XD
anyways that aside, I really wish this happens in-game. And I was wondering what the material and upgrades would be for the defeat of shockwood.
Fr, 03/22/2013 - 18:38
#6264
+1
I liked this idea. Would be interesting to see this in the game
Sa, 03/23/2013 - 04:41
#6265
Good idea although i would
Good idea although i would like to have undead a boss since they are missing just look at my table:-
1 royal jelly(slime family)
2 the twin (construct family)
3 snarblox(beast family)
4 vanaduke ( unknown debates are still going on whether he is a zombie or fiend i consider him fiend)
5 war master seerus or what ever (gremlin)
So, 03/24/2013 - 19:05
#6266
Just a thought; Snarbolax is
Just a thought; Snarbolax is pretty much considered the 'boss' of Tier 1, with it's defeat giving you the ability to buy gear fitting for Tier 2. With that in mind, it'd be kinda silly to have ANOTHER boss that players will want to go back and kill to get gear.
Why not make Rockwood the '0 star' boss and have Snarby resume it's reign as the '1 star' boss? As in, have Rockwood be the easier of the two to defeat, so progress can be shown as going from Rockwood to Snarby, and then from Snarby to Royal Jelly/Roarmulus Twins.
So, 03/24/2013 - 19:17
#6267
That Boss name LOL XD
That Boss name LOL XD
So, 03/24/2013 - 19:17
#6268
:l
Double post.
Mo, 03/25/2013 - 12:16
#6269
YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH +9001
I want this, really sounds awesome and pretty thought out. But I agree with Knight-of-India, having rockwood as the 0 star boss, this addition would make Tier One longer, and give it more bulk in the game. Also, you could find him or snarby at the end of T1 in the clockworks.
And a new heavy sword line as a token reward, and a heavy gun, like magnus line but elemental, with a normal alchemy line too.
Mo, 03/25/2013 - 12:47
#6270
cool+1
I think this idea could really blast off
Mo, 03/25/2013 - 16:14
#6271
+1
I think the boss token (sword) should be a large stick for smacking things :D the gun being a twig shot that does peircing damage (seeing how we have a lack of those) simply a blaster that does a diffident type the bomb (my fav) a bomb that has a massive radius low damage (normal or elemental) and knocks everything to the ground! (5* even Trojans and lumbers) for support/damage bombing
Mo, 03/25/2013 - 17:18
#6272
+1 c:
Here is my idea for the SL verison, as we will need one.
--- Twig change
The twigs should first off be renamed to Tesla and as you may be able to guess, deal a static effect when they hit you.
Attack one. Swing ; same as before but again, deals static effect on hit and elemental damage.
attack two. Tribeam ; as you mentioned, they were going to be re-skins of the retrodes but this would fire 3 in a Y shape. The center of the Y being the Tesla, one beam targeted at a knight, the other two go off in what ever direction they are going. Side effect of beam. If any Teslas are hit by the beam from the real up they also automatically start doing this, that means a chain reaction can start causing multiple static explosions trailing off making them quite nasty to deal with in mobs.
--- Rockwood and room changes
The spawners would obviously be replaced with Tesla spawners firstly. The spike bushes will be replaced with actual spike panels that function a 5 second timer were every 5 seconds it switches from on to off then off to on. For him to get stuck it would require the spike to be on. I am considering that to be all that needs to be really changed I can think of for a SL. Sorry for lack of detail :l
Di, 03/26/2013 - 00:16
#6273
Waffleoncake, they would be
Waffleoncake, they would be reskins of retrodes WITHOUT the beam attack, but your idea of toggleable spike panels is pretty good for the shadow lair.
Di, 03/26/2013 - 08:34
#6274
YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH +9001
I want this, really sounds awesome and pretty thought out. But I agree with Knight-of-India, having rockwood as the 0 star boss, this addition would make Tier One longer, and give it more bulk in the game. Also, you could find him or snarby at the end of T1 in the clockworks.
And a new heavy sword line as a token reward, and a heavy gun, like magnus line but elemental, with a normal alchemy line too.
Di, 03/26/2013 - 10:28
#6275
well if we are going to talk
well if we are going to talk shadow lairs then what about shadow lair armor? wood armor maybe? asi low like all plate and more piercing defense than normal idk but seeing how my comment was ignored this one would be to so little reason to go into further detail
Mi, 03/27/2013 - 02:26
#6276
The problem is that making
The problem is that making armour out of pure wood would make it really cheap. Maybe something like the boosted plate shield - iron edges but wood in the middle?
Mi, 03/27/2013 - 02:38
#6277
Rockwood
Rockwood shields are harder than pure wood
Do, 03/28/2013 - 11:48
#6278
okay but what do people think
okay but what do people think of the bomb? it would be great in arenas and the huge wave of mecha knights
Do, 03/28/2013 - 15:33
#6279
Shadow lair craft
I was actually considering that the SL craft would not be an armor, but a heavy swo-... we have enough swords so this is flawed :l. I guess it could be a gun or a bomb I dunno I need to consider it but until I figure it out i'll stick to the armor.
The armor and helmet would obviously be an upgrade to the Heavy Plate Mail and Helm.
Name ideas :
Iron Wood/Timber Titan's Plate Mail/Suit Helmet/Cap. Just a side note, read out one word on each side of the slash to see what it is meant to be.
Resistances :
It would make most since for it to have piecing defense as timbers resist piercing but we already have one so it should either be piercing or shadow to cover all types for plate mail. Similar states to volcanic for the resistance if it shadow so I.E. max normal and about half shadow but if it is piercing it should be half normal and full piercing to give it some differentiation from the other sets.
Status resistances : I feel a resistance to stun, curse, and poision all at half way would be good for positive buffs but an half full bar of negative fire due to it being made of wood and all should balance it. Also a negative shock resist about a quarter could work as well for balancing if needed.
Sa, 06/08/2013 - 18:06
#6280
Time to cause madness
I kinda like this guy, so lets BUMP HIM!
Sa, 06/08/2013 - 18:38
#6281
AWW THWACCCK NAAWWHHH hi rat c;
Side suggestion, maybe add a saduska Re-skin as a rare drop from the poss on death as "all party get" item seeing how there would be enough of him for everyone to get one!
Sounds like a good idea