You seem to have forgotten that if you have sparks, you dont need to rev for 50 energy. Or, here's a better idea, don't die :D

Im not a "5* max heat defense tank" Im barely 5*... Maybe you should find other things to do than rant.

It cost 50 energy to rev if you don't have any sparks. IMO, I think sparks are better as they encourage you to learn how to play instead of rushing in and dieing so fast, wasting sparks. Most (veteran) players get more sparks than they use. If your blaming equipment then you should make better equipment before attempting harder stuff. Like all MMOs, getting better and stronger stuff takes time.

Well, if they add that, they shouldn't keep the free life at each level. Just way too easy.
Or, only the free rev in Solo. Or, the rev only works once everyone's dead. Or, make the SoL more common at higher depth, if it isn't already.

Oh yeah, I forgot that the first time you die you get a FREE REV. Not to mention how often Sparks drop on Elite...

i'm holding a party in my house right now because nascarfan/cirnothebaka is back! our brave hero from the past is back and better than before!

you get free ele rides and you get a free revive per depth. why are you complaining about the cost of revives?

If you insist on going where you die, buy Sparks in advance, it's still cheaper than old way in Tier 3, where you had to pay 20, 40, 80 and so on, from the 2nd death.
When I have company, I die less with this way, on Elite, than the old way. My health is all my own, not half of my friend's who is then also more vulnerable.

And now I can also enter dangerous places all alone, knowing I have a buffer of Sparks. (From just playing where I don't die more than once per level.)

Darkblizarga, quite the opposite. When I do go to places where I die a lot, it's to blow some Sparks. (Like Danger Rooms.)
I'm not going to becom a better player. I didn't when it mattered, with Mist, for 1.5 years, but at least now I can recklessly die, hit Revive, die, hit Revive,... until the monsters all died from rolling on the spikes, laughing at me. ;P

(Tier 3 Trip the other day, 1 Arena, 3 or so Danger Rooms, stopped fighting except for that and when I had to after Basil; ~35 Sparks. Still have over 100.)

if you have a bunch of Spark of life (at this moment i have like 239 spark of life all of them collected in Arcade) sure i can just act goofy because i have a bunch of spark of life and i will gather more in the long run.

but when you are a new knight you cant give you this pleasure, you have to play careful because you have a small inventory of spark of life so you will play really careful to keep them and not waste them because you wanted to go in a BARBARIAN or HULK mode.

so pretty much it depends if the player have a lot of sparks of life or not. Honestly i was agaisnt this system because i though spark of life would be expensive or a lot rare but they are not, they are so cheap if you bought them from Haven in Supply Depot, and they always keep droping everyday (at least for me) so i dont see a trouble with this system now, i just like it. now my friends take care each other killing stuff that would make them waste a spark of life and i do that too of course.

Also.. spark of life give you a small buff of damage not only Stun...

I'd agree with the OP if Sparks were super rare, but actually they are fairly common in tier 2 and 3. I get 4 - 7 sparks in a full tier 3 run on elite mode.

Also free elevators, I'd rather start over than waste 50E.

Wait, there are people who DON'T have more SoL's than they know what to do with?

Give her a hand folks.

Now that sparks are so easy to get, I don't see why we need this.

You don't need to be a 5* tank to be good. Even 5* people aren't tanks. Remember this: Gear doesn't matter if you have skills. I've seen people do OCH with proto gear on Tier 3. So either get better at the game, stop whining or quit.

Practice

...Wow just wow...

No.

"Your opinion is invalid because it's not the same as mine." Why did you make a thread asking us then?

Everyone saying "you have sparks" they not that easy to come about you know. In 10 vana runs I found only 3.

Everyone saying "you have sparks" they not that easy to come about you know. In 10 vana runs I found only 3.

THIS is the main reason why some forumers want FSC payout get nerfed, so players like you can try something else besides being there all the day like a zombiefarmers at FSC. but i guess those players just go there because they dont know how to defeat others enemies, because they just only know how to kill a zombie and trojans.

on a single Arcade run with a good luck i get like 12 sparks of life, 2 eternal orbs, some amount of radiant fires and a shinning fire, tons of materials and between 10k - 15k cr if there good gate with arenas.

on a normal run i just get like 5 spark of life, 1 eternal orb and radiant fire.

Maybe those players got zombified for being too long in FSC, running always the same place over and over and over again because they believe they need to defeat vanaduke. their spirit and mind left their body long time ago.

Maybe if you die more than 5 times on any floor (Counting the emergency revive), it should pop up a message saying "maybe you aren't ready for this area".

> And for your information, the new system is much better than the previous system. The previous system was "If I die, my teammates can revive me and I can rely on them" now it's "If I die, I'm clearly doing something wrong/not ready for this yet". Which puts a bit more emphasis on your own actual skill than in a team.

Which, in turn, brings up question "Why should I go with a team, when game hints that you need to be capable of doing X by yourself?". Personally, I don't see now much need in parties, it's like there a guy, and all he can do is kill enemy for you. And there's Shadow Lairs too. And without health revives, for me and my friends they're now either impossible or very spark-expensive.

And before you go "well, duh, practice and skill and stuff" - how many times you died because of cheap shots, unblockable shots, plain Touhou, lagspikes (SL for me TOO prone to lag), general confusion, rushing before trap turns on and other things? The place, you need to spend 18 FSC's worth time and patience just to get in?

And you already nerfed FSC. It's 5-7Kcr on Normal and Advanced, basically one level worth of heat. Tokens still worth a lot, but to nerf that you need to get rid of Ancient set and Fang of Vog

>on a normal run i just get like 5 spark of life, 1 eternal orb and radiant fire.
Good for you. Yet not everybody gets 5 sparks in one T3 run. And not everybody wants to run Elite just to stock up. I'm at 35 lives left and still decreasing. They're common for "RARITIES", but not as common to be like candy

I'm also fairly certain that Elite doesn't increase your chance of rarities dropping. All Elite does is increase Enemy Damage and Health in exchange for adding extra Crowns and Heat dropping in place of Hearts dropping from enemies. You'll still find the same amount of rarities in Normal as you would in Advanced or Elite.

I can't confirm it to be true but I'm fairly certain that this is true. Material rank doesn't increase on difficulty nor does it increase the chances of getting them.

Also, what Little-Juances said. If you fail now, there's no cost except for your own time. They even give you a free revive because on average, you should only be dying once per depth. If you're dying more than that, there's clearly something going on here. You can still rely on Teammates but it's a matter of your own skill. Teammates can still help you progress through the level, but it's still a more focus on what your own ability is. If you're having trouble in Firestorm Citadel, start in Strata 5 in Arcade and work from there until you feel ready to tackle the level.

EDIT: 'The point is NOT nerf vana, is make everything else ACTUALLY interesting to try. Don't force players, make them want to.'

You clearly haven't played through Arcade much. It's much more interesting than running Firestorm Citadel constantly all day every day. Arcade has randomly generated levels and lower profit. All you're saying is 'Nothing but Firestorm Citadel gives much profit and profit = fun' which is understandable for some people. But saying Firestorm Citadel is 'interesting' is a false-understatement.

"You don't need to revive. You could restart the level over and over until you do it without spending even a pill."

And the rest of your party loses a member. Yeah, a great way to encourage Team Play.

"Now SoLs let us jump back into the action quickly[...]"
SoLs are Energy Revives with a new name and turned into items.

"[...]and are effectively free."
That I cannot deny.

lol, I have like 420 left and I stopped playing since end of Aug (currently out of the country).
I actually find that I play a lot more aggressively with the SoLs. I'm like (wee... time to run in kamikaze style with guns(swords)-a-blazing...it's all good since I won't lose any energy to revive).

And for those that low on sparks, I would totally recommend just running candlestick over and over again. I was actively playing during the first half of the black kat event and around 150-200 of my sparks were just from running through candlestick (not fighting baddies) and just collecting the treasure boxes. I actually got way more sparks+fire crystals from doing candlestick runs than when I was doing treasure vault runs when the arcade had that awesome gate right before the black kat event. What was that awesome gate again?? The iron something?