Just when crystal energy finally left the game, in came Orbs and FC, making the game a billion times harder. Orbs drop rate seems to be 1/100 and fire crystals and heat upgrading makes getting 5* gear an incredibly long task. OOO do something... Please.
Orbs and Fire crystals - The New Crystal Energy
Thu, 10/03/2013 - 20:42
Thu, 10/03/2013 - 20:56
#2
Exactly! They made the game a
Exactly! They made the game a lot more fun taking the restrictions of gameplay out, but they put in a stupid system in its space. You have to get your 4* gear to LVL 10 in order to make just one 5 star item. Which is hundreds of FC's and tons of levels. I just want to collect 5* gear and store up weapons and brag and stuff, but its like OOO is trying to make the game last forever.
Thu, 10/03/2013 - 21:03
#3
That's a good thing, though.
You wouldn't want to get every 5* Item in the game in a few weeks. You'd get bored from merchanting, buying accessories, & never adventuring anymore. Although, I do agree that the required amount of Crystals is too high & the Forge success rate a bit low(well, to me, anyway. Luck is never on my side.).
Fri, 10/04/2013 - 17:10
#4
Look at the patch notes and you will see that orbs were meant as a energy replacement for crafting hence the reason the orb value in the supply depot is equal to the old crafting costs.
Heat crystal forging may feel a bit harsh but at least you don't have to buy them. The biggest gripe I personally have with heat crystals isn't that it takes time to farm them rather that the extra effects hardly ever proc... I've crafted around 11 or 12 5*s and have yet to receive any radiant prize boxes (but only 2 shining prize boxes) and I was lucky to get even one double level from each 5*. It's worth noting that I exclusively use x3 forging.
Fri, 10/04/2013 - 05:22
#5
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Fire crystals were not to offset CE, they were to offset free elevators.
Orbs instead of CE is ALL upside. They've simply made it cheaper to craft. Since most 5* players have infinite eternal orbs, they've basically slashed the price of every 5* item by $2.50.
Fri, 10/04/2013 - 10:58
#6
@Khamsin
I'm a 5* player (I have 17 - 5* items, not including free items like DR and WRM)... I have 14 eternal orbs (i would have had to have had 51 of each level orbs to make my current 5* gear). The Elite orbs sorta break the chain of progression for veteran knights. It seems that most people I talk to don't really know where to find them (4* orbs) consistently. Hard to get 5* gear when you don't have heated 4* gear to begin with.
Most endgame players are most likely not interested in making the leveling process take longer. Nor are we wanting to get every 5* item in a few weeks. However, being endgame players, we should be able to do so without so much effort.
Fri, 10/04/2013 - 11:16
#7
@yvan
Elite orbs are equivalent to the 400 CE, no worse than the old system.
The old system was too easy honestly if you're dropping $$$ for CE. This new system requires you to go out and play the game to get fire crystals.
Basically, heating is harder, but making items is easier. I like it. Heating feels more like leveling up, as opposed to the old system where you were hitting max level in 1-2 runs of FSC.
Fri, 10/04/2013 - 11:28
#8
All these threads summed up:
"Wahhh, we are too impatient, we can't get from 1* to 5* in a single day, wahhhh."
Because that's how ooo intended the game to be played, right? Just have everything handed to you on a platter so you can speed through it. And then you'll cry about how there's nothing left that you can do. Riiiiiight?
Fri, 10/04/2013 - 12:09
#9
orbs are not worth talking about
Fire crystals are a legitimate complaint about the new Spiral Knights, because they have greatly complicated the heating process. They've been discussed to death, but if you want to talk about them some more, then okay.
Orbs are not a legitimate complaint about the new Spiral Knights. As people have repeatedly pointed out in this thread (and every thread on this topic), you can buy orbs for the same price as the old crafting price --- for example, 800 energy for a 5-star craft. The only difference between the old system and the new system is: Under the new system, you occasionally craft for free, because you have orbs lying around. Wonderful!
In other words: You expect to get your orbs for free. This is unrealistic. Instead, you should expect to pay massive amounts of energy for your orbs --- just as you used to pay massive amounts of energy for crafting --- and you should be delighted when you don't have to pay.
Fri, 10/04/2013 - 12:24
#10
@Wimsicality
@Wimsicality: If that comment was aimed at me, please be informed that I have 890 hours invested into this game... Wanting to personally go 1* to 5* in a single day was never mentioned in any post I ever made.
Khamsin, you're right. I should stop complaining and buy the orbs from kozma. I guess they simply 'appear' to be more expensive than the old CE method.
Fri, 10/04/2013 - 12:31
#11
You guys sound like you need hugs.
Fri, 10/04/2013 - 12:33
#12
It's not like you're in that
It's not like you're in that much of a hurry, right? Be grateful you aren't endgame like some of us. We're bored enough as it is.
Much easier to Craft, much harder to Heat up.