Spiral Knights - RIP Seraphynx and why you were the best

RIP Seraphynx and why you were the best

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Wed, 12/18/2013 - 09:41

Shamanalah

Seraphynx shield boost from heart attack is obsolete now with a 30 sec timer reset (which is the same as the drop)

An insight on Seraphynx Shield boost:

The timer of the shield boost used to stack each time someone would get one. The best exemple of it was 210 seconds shield boost when 3 people (me and 2 friends) timed all the shield boost to take them in alternate order. I would take one, another would take the 2nd, my other friend the 3rd and I get the 4th, making the timer goes 3 times higher. (getting to 100+ is easy knowing this, you just wait for everyone to take the orbs, then proceed to take yours, making you stack after their "max solo stack")

And whenever your timer would expire, the next shield boost you would take would give you a little less time than the previous one. Meaning that after a 210 seconds boost, taking a single boost shield orb would grant 176 seconds shield boost...

I am disapointed you took this away, it was known by so little and was helping a lot in so many ways... now I just wanna switch my heart attack to a dmg upgrade -_-

but he can't eat reset skill ;)

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 09:46

Lanieu

Anything that doesn't make us

Anything that doesn't make us stronger is good for the game.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 09:52

Shamanalah

my 2 cents

Well the defence boost update kinda killed it so... they made us stronger that way... it was designed so only a few people could start a shield boost frenzy throughout the whole depth... now it's just a perma 30 sec timer reset

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 09:58

Thegamerguy

Being a Seraphynx user

Being a Seraphynx user myself, I don't mind the chages. I'd much rather have a 30 second shield boost, 20 second speed boost, and 20 second attack boost than one long shield boost. Much of the boost is used up while walking when you're aren't attacking as well, along with most mobs being able to be taken down in less than a minute.

The end question is: more variations of boost with capped times, or one long boost?

On the side note, 210 seconds of speed boost would be so fun. Weeeeeeeeeeee!

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 10:30

Blitzsonic

Looks like OOO messed

Looks like OOO messed something up that they didn't want.
The problem here is that the orbs from sprites AND mobs are the same.
My suggestion/fix:
Make the orbs dropped from sprites stackable(they are a different orb, so that could work. Maybe OOO could change the color of the dropped orbs to match the sprite)

This doesn't only make seraphynx worse, it also changes drakon and probably maskeraith.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 11:26

Lanieu

Yep the "defense boost

Yep the "defense boost update" was unnecessary >:(

Although speed is kinda fun, not gonna lie.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 11:35

Fehzor

The new orb things are tons of fun, though they do make the game a good bit easier at times.

Maybe this is just the devs hearing our complaints about how the game was being made too hard by the removal of the revive system, which scared so many?

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 12:54

Chainguy

Excuse me?

This "time buff" nerf i fail to see how Seraphynx's heart attack is ruined by it. It's not, think again. It's still good for getting dem extra hearts if your party is low on health.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 13:09

Skepticraven

Is it really that useful?

In some other thread, someone asked how much the defense boost actually added to armor. I ran a couple tests and it came out to approximately a UV med for what looked like all armor types. In all seriousness, that isn't that much.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 14:01

Xtweeterx

@Skepticraven

Still better than nothing.

In all seerusness, Seraphynx is still really useful in the grinchin missions. As long as it has iron heart attack.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 14:26

#10

Lyrose

Doesn't make sense.

I disagree, heart attack is like the most useless skill seraphynx has. Really it only drops hearts and defense orbs which boost slighty the defense or almost nothing. Violent Heart attack is even more useless and gives your pet ugly appearence, besides only dropping hearts.
So I don't feel much of a diference, the only skills of Sera a real Sera owner can rely on is the aura shield and the ray if its desintegration ray. I have 2 seras, oposite ultimates except the iron heart attack, it pretty much depends on players playstyle.
And I can tell in the grinchlin mission most reliable is the Seraphic Aura, you can get away if 1% health and clean a mob if you're skilled enough for it. Making monsters drop hearts has a lot of chance of dropping anything and you just waste your cooldown and sparks c:

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 14:30

#11

Sandwich-Potato

Nah Pet.

Heart Attack has, once, dropped 4 pills, and a dozen or so hearts for me from my kind cat-loving friend in FSC. So, yeah.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 14:42

#12

Thunder-The-Bright

gods ain't gonna help you, son.

heart attack still drops hearts. it makes it very reliable on large mob spawns as in the grinchlin mission. if you remember to use the pills, of course.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 14:53

#13

Retequizzle

People use pet skills?

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 15:11

#14

Thunder-The-Bright

gods ain't gonna help you, son.

sometimes, yes. even I on Grinchlin assault have difficulties remembering, but I do at times.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 16:08

#15

Misty-Wellington

Truthfully I was a little saddened that my super kewl exclusive ability to make mobs drop Shield Boosts was made available to the masses. Especially as there's a cap of 30 seconds on them now.

Eh. Halo still looks better than Giant Paws.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 16:45

#16

Aplauses

Nothing new.

That's how Drakon user feels when barrier pickup was added.

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 16:51

#17

Xtweeterx

-> Seraphynx can still make defense orbs and more hearts and make guys invincible

-> Drakon can still use flame barrier when he so wants to, and get MSI depending on the ultimate he chose

<- MASKERAITH4LIFE!

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 16:56

#18

Dibsville

hmm.

I disagree, heart attack is like the most useless skill seraphynx has.

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:,) Good one.

And I use my pet skills constantly, just like I shield bash constantly. Why? Because when I do it, people remember that they can do it too! Really, I do it for my own personal gain of safety, but is that so wrong? I can quite honestly say that, with the exception of Shock Greavers, dying in a party with someone who has a Seraphynx but never uses Heart Attack is one of the most horridly annoying things in the entire game. But that's just me, I suppose.

+1 to Tweeter. Support > everything
#Maskeraith4lyfe

Wed, 12/18/2013 - 22:53

#19

Tiraen

Shadows don't cast light, do they?

No way. I thought I was the only one that did #maskeraith4life. I've been saying that since the day I got it, right as soon as the sprites came out. I HAVE FOUND MY PEOPLE (quickly realizes these are not his people and slowly walks into his little corner of the guild hall where no one can find him stroking his pet Masky)

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