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Recurse Re-curse Recurse

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Tue, 09/15/2026 - 10:18
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Jcyrano

Hi!
Reading other players about how sometimes we see Random as Chaos (even tho is not) and we sometimes percive such random as a Curse... it propose that the Faust Should Curse You while dealing a random status to the Oponent striked by the Gran faust..... and I keep thinking abut Good Random and Bad random... not categorically Good or Bad as merely descriptive.
As an example: You have 10 task to complete and need achieve a score of 7/10 to pass but there is a random effect that chooses between 0 and 1 and is taken into acount for Your score...
This is how bad random works: Your task points are Multiplied by the random.

Let's say You complete successfully 8 task and then the Randoms gets You a 1: 8 points for effort X 1 point for random = 8 Congratulation You passed.
Let's say You complete successfully 8 task and then the Randoms gets You a 0: 8 points for effort X 0 point for random = 0 Congratulation You FAILED.
In this example whatever You do can be turned meaningless redardless of Your effort, most times will lead to "Feel Bad" moments

This is how good random works: Your task points are Added to the random.

Let's say You complete successfully 8 task and then the Randoms gets You a 1: 8 points for effort + 1 point for random = 9 Congratulation You passed.
Let's say You complete successfully 8 task and then the Randoms gets You a 0: 8 points for effort + 0 point for random = 8 Congratulation You passed.
In this example whatever Your effort achieved, the random will push further or simply not hinder this wil lead to "Ha! got lucky" moments

We are we going with this?.. well Cursing Yourself to apply a random status on the enemy is Bad random... Why? Well I do not control what gear or status resistances my opponets have wether PvP or PvE, I can Know them but can't control them however... Applying a random status to me while Cursing an opponent is something I can somewhat control I Can know what resistances I have and I can Control what resistances I have. And what do We do wit that?
Well we been talking about Applying status to ourselves while cursing enemies... but Why? A bargain... a Faustian Deal... yes, that's right Faust and Gran Faust... But we haven't thematically talk about it... THE CURSE... we have been speaking about status... but how is a Bargain? What IF Curse is not waht is now, but an amalgamation of the worst that could happen... a Cursed being afflicted with all the possible maladies know to the Spiral Order...
How do we Re-curse the Curse?
What if Curse is this...
For the duration the Victim is:
Damaged and his suroundings every X seconds (shock style). Absconded! No one wants to be near a Cursed Being... Curse of Isolation.
Slowed (stun style). Consumed! Drain from the vitality and will to act... Curse of Exhaustion.
Damaged when attacks (Fire style ehem, not really follow the narrative). Convicted! The price in Blood for the harm You seek... Curse of Pain.
Defence and damage reduced (poison style). Enfeebled! Weakened body, weakened mind a husk of itself... Curse of Rot.

--Obviously all the values should be tunned by a designer that knows the intricancy of such!--
Why Fire is that? Well the Damage is normal damage while the Shock is Elemental, how does that changes anything? well one is the natural environment forcing You to be alone the other is bleed (yes! for those that incist in adding that stuff, no I don't think is good thing, heres a compromise, enjoy)
I left out Freeze because seams Redundant somehow. But can be added if is chossed so.
The bargain comes when we pay a Status for the Cursed effect on others in which case Freeze could be added to the BARGAIN but not necessarily to the Curse. Balancewise stuff...
I don't know if this Curse is better that what we have, is different, while retaining elements of what we know and IS in the game.
Would be nice getting affected by it? NO, thats the Point; Should be used in a Mist Bomb... No, is redundant or will Overstep the others being only detrimental to the gameplay; Can be added to a Normal damage shard bomb or a Tortofist? those are not for Me to answer but are valid questions...

P.S.: To the person that wanted to create that somewhat bargain Thanks. Also, I hope this refflects something good of Your idea and perhaps Inspire You to do more!

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