Spiral Knights - [Delicious meatballs]

[Delicious meatballs]

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Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:14

Azkanan

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I'm not sure about you guys, but I love [delicious meatballs].

What's really annoying is, that you can't even utter the word without the game filtering you out so you can't even say it.

"I ate [delicious meatballs] today."

Becomes nothing. Ergo, I have to say;

"I ate [delicious]"
"[meatballs] today."

Now surely this isn't a problem. However, when I can run up to a guy and say "I F*d your dead mother's F*ng C* last night, B*" without it cutting me out, I think it's ridiculous.

Just because in America, [delicious meatball] is derogative, doesn't mean you should ban it out when it's a perfectly often-used (and tasty) word in England and mayhap elsewhere.

This is my Discussion thread for the uncensoring of said word.

Also, protip, singular [delicious meatballs] are non-plural [delicious meatball], so you can't really just ban out "[Delicious Meatball]" as opposed to "[Delicious Meatballs]".

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:24

Senshi

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You realize...

there is a forum rule that if it is censored in the game it should be censored in the forums and you are risking a permanent forum ban by using a banned word repeatedly. Admittedly, it is difficult, but not impossible, to discuss the subject without using the word itself.

Also you just admitted to filter-evasion, which risks getting yourself banned in the game as well.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:24

Sunless

American game = American

American game = American filters. Just because you would use it correctly doesn't mean the vast majority wouldn't use it in a derogatory way.

We're ignoring you can turn off the filter.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:27

Sillty

OP's word is one of those

OP's word is one of those that is still filtered even if you turn the filter off.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:29

Azkanan

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What can I say? I have a

What can I say? I have a taste for English, unprohibited Free tongue.

Nethertheless, if it takes Filter Evasion to carry out a perfectly normal conversation, so be it. It's all quite silly, really.

As for the nationalistic fellow on the far right, that's quite unfair, no? So you'd be perfectly happy playing a game you love, where you can't speak your only language if it were, say, Arabic? Or Japanese? Whereas they filter out your natural tongue?

Imagine not being able to talk about Burgers. Or Alcohol. Or Chips... Eh, French Fries. You get the idea. [Delicious meatball] is a perfectly common food, and just because *you* don't like it, doesn't mean it should be unheard.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:28

Senshi

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@replicant

Some words are 'so bad' that they drop the entire line from the chat.

Apparently the name for the variety of pork meatballs that they eat in the west country is one of those, as well as a corruption of the French word for 'black', and I believe the name of a certain type of seed that Canola was hybridized from.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:31

Azkanan

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French word for black?

French word for black? Noire-corrupted is not that word... It's from the country's name. Also silly, but that's historical.

Well, as long as i can speak Latin, I won't be too cross. Lapis Niger, per example - isn't that a country, too, minus the Stone?

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:31

Sunless

As for the nationalistic

I don't think you could have missed the point any more if you tried.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:33

Azkanan

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And you know none of the

And you know none of the words I listed are actually incredibly disrespectful in another country, yes? I believe Cancer is quite a touchy subject in the Netherlands. That's quite hit-and-miss, though, and generally unacceptable.

However, my point stands. If "Burger" was pretty bad a word in Japan in a japanese game, eh? Or french fries?

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:34

lmaoboat

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OP, can I have your stuff

OP, can I have your stuff before you get banned?

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:35

#10

Azkanan

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Surely the GMs aren't that

Surely the GMs aren't that hammer-happy? =|.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:36

#11

lmaoboat

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Ahahahaha.. haha.. heh... So

Ahahahaha.. haha.. heh...
So about that stuff?

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:39

#12

Azkanan

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I guess I'm too used to being

I guess I'm too used to being in non-commercialized Indie game Forums, eh? They don't tend to have such an authoritarian Mod caste reputation in those places.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:40

#13

Sunless

However, my point stands. If

However, my point stands. If "Burger" was pretty bad a word in Japan in a japanese game, eh? Or french fries?

Censors and filters have always been and will always be cultural, regardless of whether what is being censored in your culture/language is perfectly alright.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:40

#14

lmaoboat

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Well duh.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:46

#15

Senshi

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Well...

Surely the GMs aren't that hammer-happy? =|.
You are using the word in a way that makes it clearly not an epithet, so maybe they'll just redact it and warn you, and since presumably nobody filed a complaint in-game on your filter-evasion, that will probably be let to slide, so maybe you'll only get a forum ban or no ban at all... but no promises.

Also, this is not a new topic and is pretty much a waste of time - it's a new topic to SK, but it has been discussed ad nauseum on other three ring's games and they keep expanding the filter not reducing it despite such feedback. While I agree it's gotten quite out of control ... the word similar to snicker that contains a substring that is the corruption of the name of an African country apparently, lesson learned there thank you, that word similar to snicker is a particularly touchy subject among many and yet I believe it is still dropped. Haven't tested lately. Was suprised to find the saxon word for urination is filtered now, when off is really quite mild language in American English, and 'got last night' in British English is quite the same as American English's 'got hammered last night'.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:44

#16

Crixdec

Gonna have to agree with

Gonna have to agree with Replicant on this one mate. As he said American game means American filters. To use a real life example, lets take the gesture a thumbs up. A thumbs up is generally consider to mean some sort of positive message along the lines of "Doing fine", "Okay!" etc, in North American cultures, however in Iran it would mean something obscene vulgar(I got this outta my social psych book by the way to don't completely quote me on this >.>). If I were to visit Iran and give them a thumbs up without knowing this then it would be sorta of alright as it is a cultural misunderstanding, HOWEVER if I were to continue giving them a thumbs up fully knowing that it is an obscene gesture to them then that would just be rude and disrespectful. While this word is fine in your culture it is not in the American culture. Removing the filter on this word would only allow trolls to use this word to freely insult playing the game and perhaps some of the younger players to an offensive word.

TL DR:

Sorry but different culture different rules.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:45

#17

Azkanan

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A ban would be pretty silly,

A ban would be pretty silly, really - surely they won't discredit an honest discussion... about Spiral Knights...

In the Spiral Knights... General... Discussion, board. Especially such a mature and semi-boner important one!

Also they surely wouldn't dissuade suggestions to improve the game! That's counter-productive all around!

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:48

#18

lmaoboat

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If anything, you're just

If anything, you're just going to get a longer ban for trying to be snarky about it.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 16:53

#19

Azkanan

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Heh heh, what can I say, I've

Heh heh, what can I say, I've had a good time this weekend.

In any case, the discussion has failed. /thread, amirite?

Or, moreso, my far left has failed.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 17:14

#20

Morpholomew

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This is the first time I've

This is the first time I've ever heard of [delicious meatballs] being a type of meatball. I wouldn't call that common. And how often would you be talking about meatballs in a MMO? While I find filtering certain words silly, I do find it necessary due to the sadly large amount of people who would abuse its absence, and I find it therefore much sillier to complain about not being able to discuss your favourite type of meatball.

Also, cancer is only as much of a touchy subject in the Netherlands as elsewhere. It's just that for some reason diseases and disorders are common as swearwords.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 17:38

#21

SlyJohnny

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lmaoboat and Senshi, noone's

lmaoboat and Senshi, noone's going to get "banned", you whiny little trolls. It's a sensible topic presented in a non-controversial fashion. The most they'll do is lock the topic. "omg you confessed to filter evasion!!1"

Jesus. Were you the type of snot-nosed little brats that tattled on people passing notes in class?

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 17:47

#22

Senshi

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@SlyJohnny...

Wtf? Fall out of the wrong side of bed this morning? I'm not reporting anyone for anything, and kinda agree with the OP, as you'd know if you actually read what I wrote instead of skimming the forums in search of people to insult, I was just giving a warning. Honestly, if it's Eurydice, I expect to see some editing in the original post and a little warning about not breaking the rules while discussing the rules. What I -expect- however and the punishments that the rules lay out are not the same and such leniency is not guaranteed and the Original Poster still has a chance to edit the Original Post if he wants to be cautious.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 18:05

#23

Eurydice

Community Manager

OP, the forum guidelines say

OP, the forum guidelines say that if a word is filtered in-game, you must not use it on the forums.

Everyone at OOO is fully aware that the word "faggot" has alternate meanings. However, when it is used in online games, 99% of the time it is by an insecure little boy who is having a confusing time with The Changes, and who feels he needs to engage in the use of slurs to prove his own worth. We do not tolerate that. Hence, it is in the filter, where it will remain.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 18:08

#24

mangoblender

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Those would be rather

Those would be rather interesting souvenirs to bring home and show if I ever travel to wherever they sell those.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 18:16

#25

Madadder

lol'd at the changes Eurydice

lol'd at the changes Eurydice made

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 18:20

#26

Koffin-Kat

chat filters everywhere

We can be happy about our current filter. Trust me.

I played a game where the chat filter was so ridiculous that it was nearly imposible to have a casual conversation without sounding like a ret... eeeh, like a mentaly disabled person.
That thing filtered even common words!
It was so sad it was funny.

Off Topic: But I have another issue with chat filters - not this one, but almost every other chat filter - why do they usualy filter the word "gay". It's a bit ... discriminating in my point of view. Unless they would filter the word "hetero" as well... :D
I don't know if that G-word is filtered here in Spiral Knights as I haven't tried it, though.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 18:28

#27

Sillty

OP is a delicious meatball.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 18:31

#28

JCPedroza

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[Delicious meatball] is not a bad word

[Delicious meatball] is not a bad word around here. How the hell should we guess what the scared and closed minds will consider as offensive?

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 18:34

#29

Eurydice

Community Manager

@Noctuelle: The word "gay"

@Noctuelle: The word "gay" is also filtered in SK. Not because OOO feels that gayness is bad and should be erased, but rather for the same reasons as described above.

There is no perfect solution--I mean, what IF someone seriously wants to discuss that particular brand of delicious meatballs, or the history of the gay rights movement in-game? It's inconvenient, but they can use other words. By contrast, the people who are most often hampered by the filter are those who want to use the words as slurs. I feel fine about that.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 18:36

#30

SlyJohnny

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...Now this thread just makes

...Now this thread just makes me hungry.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 18:39

#31

Koffin-Kat

random fact

Oh, and just a random "funny fact":

the F-word is commonly used as a name for a musical instrument in my country (it's 'bassoon' in English I guess). Only we write it with only one G, not with double G :D

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EDIT: Oh, thanks for answer, Eurydice... nice to see admins actually read the forum!

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 18:39

#32

Eurydice

Community Manager

@JCPedroza: Here is a handy

@JCPedroza: Here is a handy list for you.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 18:41

#33

OptimusPunk

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Why would anyone call their

Why would anyone call their meatballs that word? I don't understand.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 18:51

#34

nearo

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Lolololo,

"delicious meatballs"

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 18:52

#35

lmaoboat

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Because British food is so

Because British food is so bad that you can't mention it in polite company.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 19:11

#36

OptimusPunk

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Dude

lmaoboat, you just made me lmao.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 19:32

#37

Fly18

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Now I really wanna know what

Now I really wanna know what delicious meatballs really was.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 19:33

#38

Sunless

The word was [delicious

The word was [delicious meatballs].

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 19:39

#39

Raspberry

Dinner Etiquette

Shouldn't discussions about dinner etiquette be in the Gremlin section?

Oh this is a discussion about language filters in SK!

In all seriousness, there are other places to discuss whatever your heart desires in whatever language you want. Being raised in Hawaii, I can cuss in at least 10 different languages. No kidding. You learn cuss words from all your different relatives so you know when to duck when aunty or uncle are throwing a hissy fit. It is their house. Although if things get out of hand, the other relatives will chastise the grownups for being immature around the kids.

Now, do I cuss in public? NO! Do I cuss at a relative's house, college or in a place of business. NO! You learn to be respectful because it is classy and reflects on how well the grandparents or parents raised you. If you feel a need to be vulgur or vocally amorous, you can choose to do so in your own home with your mates. The fact that you choose to be vulgur or vocally amorous in public or at a grandparent's home reflects on your own level of classiness. And since this is not your home, management has the authority to apply their level of classiness upon their guests.

FYI: Daniel James, the CEO of Three Rings, is from England.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 20:18

#40

Zingman

Yet another oddly named

Yet more oddly named British foods

[delicious meatballs] is one of them

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 20:01

#41

Fly18

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something tells me that

something tells me that [delicious meatballs] aren't really meatballs.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 20:03

#42

Xevind

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Mmmmm, [delicious meatballs].

Mmmmm, [delicious meatballs]. Gotta say, the censorship made me laugh.

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 22:47

#43

Shoebox

Don't Sudanese, su da wallet.

Must've had a [happy] old time eating those [delicious meatballs].

Sun, 07/03/2011 - 23:37

#44

mejezfeld

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ITT to my knowledge because

ITT to my knowledge because of COPPA, an American law, there are (or should be) no people younger than 13 playing this game. And to my knowledge most of the boys that age (AKA the kids who use the word [delicious meatballs] rampantly to insult people) think games like this one are [non-heterosexual] and play Counter-Strike or Call Of Doodoo or Grand Theft Auto instead because they aren't such.

And their opinions are useless anyway and anyone who pays them the slightest bit of seriousness needs to eat a pile of offal.

So... useless filter is useless?

Or maybe instead of making the word bannable/removing it entirely make it filter to [delicious meatballs] ingame?

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 04:36

#45

Koffin-Kat

@ mejezfeld

... games like this one are [non-heterosexual] ...

This realy made me laugh :D

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 06:32

#46

Azkanan

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The irony has struck me, that

The irony has struck me, that the root forum is actually called "English Language Forum". Lololol.

Also, for those who havn't tried it like the fellow coinciding with the idea of grabbing one as a souvenir... I highly advise you to do so. They're friggin' 'licious. Really easy to cook, too... they're so good.. Oh man, my mouth is watering. I'm going to go cook some, brb.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 07:00

#47

Ightex

The only thing I learned from

The only thing I learned from this topic is that people can be delicious meatballs. My mind has been blown.

Mon, 07/04/2011 - 18:35

#48

Amnaf

The solution is simple.

The solution is simple. Instead of calling them [delicious meatballs], call them delicious meatballs. This will make it clear that you do not mean mediocre or average or even decently good meatballs,, but rather meatballs that are guaranteed to be delicious.

I don't think I will ever be able to have just normal meatballs for dinner in the future. They will always be delicious.

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 12:15

#49

Dahall

I call nekro on this thred just to tell y'all that I can say كفتة as well as قضيب منقط.( this does not violate the ToS since it is not in the list of filtered words)

Wed, 12/17/2014 - 09:01

#50

Vohtarak-Forum

I'm vohtarak, call me by that name

this is my new favorite censored thread

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