Hi guys,
i have killed them some minutes ago and my elemental gun did bonus damage.
The wiki talk nothing about it, is it a recent change?
So, is shadow doing extra damage against jk too?
Thanks.
Hi guys,
i have killed them some minutes ago and my elemental gun did bonus damage.
The wiki talk nothing about it, is it a recent change?
So, is shadow doing extra damage against jk too?
Thanks.
@Espeonage
My Prisma Driver (lvl 4) did the same damage against the Twins and against any other construct enemy at Tier 2,
a big golden 82.
Except for JK... who seems to be in a family of his own. The twins take damage like literally any construct whereas the jelly king (and his tiny tiny annoying slimes) seem to take an even amount of damage no matter what. Even a snarble barb on the jelly king did a normal amount of damage whereas if I tried to use the snarble barb on a normal jelly it does about 10% of what it is supposed to do.
Snarbolax - He is a Beast so he is weak to piercing.
Jelly King - Although he is of the Slime family he is neutral to everything like his annoying tiny jellies.
Twins - He is a Construct so he is weak to elemental.
Vanaduke - He is not of any family but his lore makes people think that he is Undead. And although he is believed to be Undead, he is not weak to elemental but piercing. I used my Dark Thorn Blade on him and giant yellow stars jumped out at me.
This thread has blown my mind. (Oh, the humanity.)
As far as I know, Jelly King is not vulnerable to shadow damage like his spiky underlings. He IS, however, susceptible to Curse.
As for Vanaduke, his body is slightly vulnerable to piercing and slightly resistant to all other damage, while his mask is slightly vulnerable to normal and slightly resistant to everything else. And, of course, he's immune to Fire.
yea, roar are wek for some reason, but my faust does no extra dmg to jk(unless i happen to curse him)
Mysticbeam: Jelly King is not weak to Shadow Damage like his minions, nor are the mini cubes.
Last I checked, mini cubes are weak to elemental damage for some strange reason. Or, at least, I used to get big red numbers when hitting them with elemental, but that could be just a bug similar to the bug that gremlin healers used to have.
The spew of incorrect information is painful. :[ Does nobody read the wikipedia? The twins have always been weak to elemental, it's not new. JK is weak to no-elemental apparently, Snarbolax is weak to piercing and so is Vanaduke. Their weaknesses allow you to hit them for the same value as any other monster weak to your attacks; that is to say if your DA does 219 to a mechaknight it'll do 219 to the twins too.
JK has a weakness against elemental actually, as weird as that sounds. You can check by attacking a regular jelly and the king with a Glacius or DA. Also, some of the information on the wiki is outdated/not updated in a long time.
i didnt say jk was weak to shadow, i said that my faust does nt extra mdg, unless i happen to ccurse him, then he takes the extra dmg caused by curse lol
JK has a weakness against elemental actually, as weird as that sounds. You can check by attacking a regular jelly and the king with a Glacius or DA. Also, some of the information on the wiki is outdated/not updated in a long time.
Try slashing the Jelly King with the second swipe of a Gran Faust. Somehow they're weak to that.
Royal Jelly Mini's? Also the same, 1st hit from a Gran Faust does normal damage, 2nd hit from a Gran Faust does Super Effective Damage.
What I don't get is the Elemental stuff, I've tested this too. Apparently Royal Jelly King, and Mini's are weak to Pure Elemental Damage only IF the attack is coming from a bomb or a gun of some kind.
I've used acheron and glacius on the minis and only the 3rd hit is suppereffective if i don't have any attack bossts on if i have max on swords all of my attacks ar super effective, so i think it is baised on the amount of damage is actualy being delt.
@ JK weak to elemental and the mini jelly stuff etc
OR...it could be a bug that's been around for awhile
I think its baised on the amount of damage is actually being delt
Yea... I think that's what causes the bug/glitch. If its not a bug/glitch then that is simply the fact that's what causes it.
Also not to sound rude but....
Roarmulus Twins = Construct = Weak to elemental .__.
DementedDuck is right 100%
...are both "weak" to elemental (my alt's blizzbrand) and shadow (Umbra Driver) from my experiences.
The reason I said "weak" (with "") is because the numbers and stars can possibly lie. I think it's a not-very-known glitch.
I am still wondering how, if JK and its mini-mes are actually no-type monsters, why I get gray numbers from using Blitz Needle, normal damage from Master Blaster, and stars from using Umbra Driver and Blizzbrand.
I actually just did a jelly run and had big yellow numbers for both mini jellies and the jelly king with my gran faust. First and second slash on mini jellies, didn't try second slash on JK. Mini jellies were also weak to my storm driver elemental shots.
Twins are definitely weak to construct.
Vanaduke definitely weak to piercing.
Snarbolax was weak to piercing last time I fought him but it's been a while. I assume he still is, though.
I think damage bonuses are something to consider here.. I haven't done any tests but I've seen some of my weapons do really high damage that should be yellow but is actually just white (my DA is max vs undead and it happens with that; you also end up with white numbers with a blitz charge vs vanaduke if you have a few bonuses plus poison - I've seen videos that confirm this). It happens a lot in lower tiers with 5* weapons and bonuses, although I'm just assuming the reasons for it.
I had max damage bonus on all swords when I ran JK today; I don't think I've had that before. So I suppose that could be it? But then that's totally backwards compared to what I've been seeing with my DA.
It's all so confusing. ;_;
Regarding the Jelly minis comments...
They do take more damage from shadow, although it shows up as a normal hit (color) until your last hit of the combo. Elemental damage APPEARS to be super-effective (by color only), but use a shadow weapon and you'll see that the shadow does a lot more damage despite not having the correct color display. I've tested this first hand by using a Gigawatt Pulsar vs Shadow Driver, and Levi Blade vs Acheron. May not be too good of a comparison for some to believe, but you can clearly see a damage difference if you try it out.
I'm not sure about the JK having any weaknesses, but I haven't noticed any damage differences between using shadow or normal weapons.
Aside from that, it's clear through the wiki that the Twins and Snarby share the same weaknesses as the monster family they belong to, and Vanaduke is an un-undead freak XD
tldr; JK and Vana are wierdos when it comes to weaknesses, the other two bosses are in line with their monster family's weakness.
You can't compare a Gigawatt Pulsar vs Shadow Driver because they are different guns. To be fair it should be Prisma Driver vs Shadow Driver, or Nova Driver vs Umbra Driver. How much does your Shadow Driver deal on a mini, what level of heat and what floor (<--- important)? I might bust out my Prisma Driver later.
Easier comparison is DA vs GF though. And I guess some people here have both... (I only have DA) can anyone test? :D
Bosses have always had the weaknesses/resistances of their respective monster families; the difference lies in the fact that both stats are dramatically weakened, so the damage is somewhat marginal on super-effective hits, and resisted hits aren't as reduced.