Sometimes begging in Haven pays off
Mié, 10/26/2011 - 23:22
So today after the patch went through I logged in to see what the shadow key price was and to check out the new idle animations. I was just hanging around near the AH knight-watching for a bit when someone (I don't recall his name) starts begging for 100cr.
I thought to myself, how generous do I feel today? Did he use reasonable grammar? Should I ask him what he needs it for, and judge the worthiness of his cause? Should I enter some unreasonably large amount in the cr and ce field of the trade window and then go afk without confirming?
Before I could get through pondering that, a trade request popped up. I was immediately put off my generous mood by this; sending me a trade request while begging is the best way to get me to never give you anything... But then I noticed that the trade request wasn't from the beggar.
Now sometimes people around the AH will send me random trade requests and then ask to actually buy something off me, or being that I'm a youtube superstar it could be a swooning fan wanting to grace me with a gift offering in an act of pure devoted reverence... *cough* ¬_¬
I figure what the hell, I'm bored, I'll accept the request and see what they want.
They type in 100cr and confirm...
Of course, I do what any sane person would: I accept and politely thank him for his kind-hearted generosity.
So it just goes to show, sometimes begging does pay off. That is, your begging pays off for me. :D
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 04:31
#2
lolz?
lolz.
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 05:12
#3
The fun thing is people
The fun thing is people begging and constantly moving around, making impossible for those who for whatever reason want to actually give them anything to actually click on them to initiate the trade.
LOL.
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 05:49
#4
Beggars need banned. Nuff
Beggars need banned. Nuff said.
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 06:06
#5
Or rather, there should be a
Or rather, there should be a penalty for them Beggars. Like, a 30 minute ban would suffice to make them think about it......of course, the problem is how such a system would be implemented...
God, I hate them. I spend untold hours grinding levels to earn Crowns, and some lazybum starts annoying me for Crowns? They really need to be taught a lesson...
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 06:23
#6
My Interaction with a beggar story.
So the other day I'm in haven and someone sends me a trade request. I accept the request. After the trade window pops up, the person who initiated the trades begs for crowns (with "CRs Plz!" of course)
Now I really hate begging in a game environment so I do whatever I can to torture someone begging toward me. So I proceed to write big numbers in the crowns trade, but not hitting confirm, then erasing the number. I do this three times, then break the trade, and walk away.
Not getting the clue, the beggar follows me, asks for crowns AND energy and opens another trade window. I put one piece of scrap metal in the window and hit confirm. He reaffirms that it's crowns he wants. He even types and deletes in the crowns spot like I did to demonstrate that was what he wanted. I just sit there with the scrap metal in the window and read a conversation people were having nearby. After about 3 minutes he closes the window and walks a short distance away.
Again... torture... so I follow him. Initiate a trade and put the piece of scrap metal into the trade window again and hit confirm.
He then puts 1000 crowns into the trade...
Hits confirms...
Logs off the game...
tl:dr - Harassing a beggar like he harassed me led to selling a single piece of scrap metal for 1000 crowns.
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 06:42
#7
^LOL
^LOL
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 06:53
#8
I mentioned the other day, as
I mentioned the other day, as a joke, that I would dance for crowns. Someone gave me 100 cr. I didnt actually ask them to, but they did. Then I also mentioned I am "a rich person with tons of crowns and CE, high 5 star equipment, and want crowns just for the sake of it." Same person graced me with another 100 cr.
I was impressed. Usually I wouldnt beg, and i frown upon those that do it, but there are times where generous and nice people will give crowns to those that will joke around and have fun with the begging. Those of us who dont really need those 200 cr, but we get them anyway because the beggars are more annoying and less deserving of the 200 cr.
I am glad to see there are some nice people still playing the game. Makes my heart go warm. Or however the expression is.
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 07:12
#9
Its like anything these days,
Its like anything these days, if you like it, support it, if you dont... dont support it and it will slowly die out.
I never give stuff to beggars. However I do give stuff to beginners who appear to be just starting out in the game and could do with some extra gear. If I am not playing much I will craft with my mist... its nice to occasionally give these items to people who have started out.
Also I noticed that beggars will trade matts that I want, for cheaper than AH.. I dont scalp them, but do take them for slightly cheaper and tell them about using AH properly and the matts that are useful.. and where to get them from.
Its a shame that a lot of people profit from noobs. Begging only indicates this and makes them an easy target as well. If anyone bothers you with begging I find the easiest solution is to add them to ignore list.
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 07:46
#10
lol, man I hate beggars. If I
lol, man I hate beggars. If I have time I like to go for the put a bunch of CR & CE into the trade and go afk with out hitting confirm. I find this a great time to go have a sandwich or go watch some tv. I like to keep unbound good UV equipment on hand for torture too.
However, if somebody is trying to scrap together some crowns and offers to sell mats, I will usually waaaay overpay (of my own accord) just because I appreciate that they were not begging.
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 08:27
#11
The beggars i hate the most
The beggars i hate the most are those that use a pink with pigtails Knight and an obvious girly name to try to tease you or something with hearths and love words.
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 08:32
#12
Will you dance again?
@Noobowns:
You're welcome for the crowns. That was some of the finest dancing i've ever seen.
If I see you on today feel free to dance again and I might grace you with more:)
@Topic:
I typically will hand out a couple crowns if someone asks nicely enough and seems to really
need it only because the last time I helped someone out, they came back a few days later
saying one of their friends gave him all their CE and quit and he, remembering that I helped
him, wanted to give me some of the CE. But then their are those who ask for 500cr and
when I send a trade and put in the money.....they say MORE. Then I cancel the trade and
end up having to ignore them just so they stop sending me trade requests.
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 08:42
#13
All I got from this is that
All I got from this is that you think you're a Youtube Superstar. Which uh congrats good for you I guess.
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 08:57
#14
The thing with beggers is you
The thing with beggers is you have to make sure they would be WILLING to give something back, it's the ones who don't care that are the problem.
For instance, the other day I gave this guy a bunch of crowns he was asking for... In return for telling the people at the AH a touching story about an adventuring magical unicorn and his friend the rainbow bear. LoLs ensued for all parties involved.
http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff457/TheRagingTypist/Stories.png
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 09:33
#15
I just give them 10 crowns
I just give them 10 crowns and go on my way. I remember one of them said "thanks! So what can this get me?"
Anyone who doesn't like my 10 crowns is ungrateful if you ask me >:c
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 09:36
#16
Ok I have a begger story: I
Ok I have a begger story: I join my friend in the clockworks 2 others r with him. The minute I join he hits me with a trade request for cr I tell him I dont have any to spare (cause I just bought a new sword) and I delete the request then he does it again! I tell him again "I have no cr" the 2 others yell choise words at him and I delete the request and he does it AGAIN!!!!!!!! well this goes on for 5 minutes before I just when and joined my other friend. BEGGERS SHOULD BE HANGED!!!!!!!!!!!
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 09:59
#17
how i handle beggars / some tangential musings
i. HATE. beggars. that said, this is how i handle them:
beggar: /shout "give me X cr/ce! PLOX!! PLOX!!!"
me: /tell beggar "i won't GIVE you X cr/ce. what i WILL do is BUY something from you for X cr/ce."
- trade request from beggar
- i put up X cr/ce
- trade window fills up with ce, random materials, weapons, recipes...
- i wait, silently, while the trade window fills up with MORE random mats, etc...
- i wait even longer... even more random stuph, then...
A: i get a pile of random stuph worth far more than what i paid for it
(or)
B: the beggar wants X cr for random crap worth x cr and i ignore him/her/it.
i have been repeatedly amazed at the value of stuph that i "buy" that way; a 2* recipe for 800cr, piles of blue and green shards, monster bones, and bushy tails for a fraction of their market value, 2* weapons. everybody goes away happy. the beggar gets his/her/its precious money and i get some value-priced stuph to share with my guildies AND (*bonus!) get to rip off yet another damn beggar.
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tangential musings:
i miss what i call "anti-beggars," well-off and fun players hanging out in haven holding legitimate contests for legitimate prizes; trivia contests, "guess my favorite (insert random tidbit here)," etc. it was a few months ago that i last saw one, a player offering 100ce to guess his favorite Metallica song. true to his word he graciously congratulated me and traded me 100ce for guessing his fav (it was 'Orion'). the next day i paid it forward by giving away 100ce to whomever could guess my favorite 90s industrial band (Nitzer Ebb, FLA, and Front242 were all acceptable answers). this kind of altruistic behavior is something that made hanging out in haven a fun alternative to grinding it out in the clockwerks. bring back the fun convo's, havenites, and we'll drown out the "give me free 5* weapons!" and the "PLOOOOXXXXXX's."
- [SoL] aremel
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 10:13
#18
There needs to be a do not
There needs to be a do not disturb command to stop trade requests. It's so annoying to have a beggar request to trade with you over and over again when you're trying to talk.
I don't give things to beggars, ever. I'm a fan of putting up all my cr and CE and just sitting and waiting for them to get bored. I used to give gear to newbies who didn't ask, but was put off doing so when one newbie dropped several "hints" a day about how he needed this mat and that mat and cr and CE. Like seriously, I was generous once, don't take advantage.
Mostly I just tell people "no" and if they don't stop, "f*** off".
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 11:04
#19
@ OP Lawl, I was totally
@ OP Lawl, I was totally standing there and seen you ask that guy about 200 crowns, "What are you going to do once you have all thoes crowns?".
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 12:22
#20
@guardianknight
@guardianknight
thanks for the crowns. I hope to come across you again. I will try to do even better dancing next time, but you know, I need to rehearse for such a complicated dance step
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 12:31
#21
@Noobowns
If you get good enough at it then I might double the crowns:)
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 12:53
#22
ur not in game now are u?
ur not in game now are u?
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 13:45
#23
Personally
I find it depends on the begger. If he's just standing around begging generally, and it's not a whole lot he's asking for, then I'm happy to help. Once gave away like a whole page of materials that way. Silly me ><
If, however, they stalk you/anyone else around, opening trade screens with you and demanding stuff, then THAT annoys me.
Happened once. SOme random guy gives me a friend request, telling me he wanted me to meet his friend 'purplepurple' or something. Then started asking me for a cutter.
[Trade request]
Me: ?
Him:cuter giv
Me: ...?
Him: cuter giv
Me: ...You mean cutter? As in sword?
Him: Yes
Me: Sorry, I don't have a cutter
[Close trade]
[Trade request]
Him: cuter giv
Me: Didn't I tell u I don't have a cutter?
[Close trade]
Him: Follow me. /walks to Bazaar
[At Bazaar]
/goes to weapons guy. Looks at his wares, as do I.
[Trade request]
Him: Cuter giv
Me: I told you! I don't HAVE a cutter!
Him: Noob /runs off.
Me: ....... /deletes him from friend list.
Him: /runs back, sends me a friend request
Me: What NOW!?
Him: cuter giv
Me: OMG. I DON'T HAVE A CUTTER!
Him: Can I hav a gun?
...................................................
He then kept sending me friend requests as fast as I was deleting them. I changed Havens eventually, then went about my business.
^this type of person really annoys me. If a begger politely asks for stuff, fine. Demanding is not cool.
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 14:12
#24
@Noobowns
I haven't been on much today but i'm on now.
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 14:55
#25
Many a Jim Dale fan have
Many a Jim Dale fan have showered me with crown and energy gifts. I need to find a place to post a list of people who donated for a proper thanks.
And youtube superstar hrmmm?
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 14:56
#26
Psychodestroyer
LOLOLOLOL
that just made my day.
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 15:20
#27
Oh you people don't know what's begging.
When you're in Spiral Knights, the best thing to do is not beg.
If you want to get in the real money, you have to tell stories, the freakiest, coolest stories. The pay varies, but there's the occasional 100 cr, 1000 cr, or maybe more ---> http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/595825477978054043/42824D9F692D8760D26...
You shouldn't beg, but instead offer a service. I am a bard, and stories are my produce.
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 15:20
#28
@Astrobug
I really like that idea Astrobug. If it is okay with you I would love to use this on my next beggar. You know when I see people, (new players) say, would someone be willing to by such and such from me or can I get 10 ce for x amount of crowns? I usually always help that person and I will tell them I don't want their items. 95% of the time they are grateful and I say out loud, do you know why I gave you that for free? When they ask why, I again say out loud, because you were not begging for it. I like to think that some nearby beggars hear this and catch a clue, who knows. Other thing I do when they are begging and open up a random trade window is I right away say, OH! did I win? Did I ? What did I win? This normally will totally confuse them and they move on. :)
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 15:57
#29
You know if you just hit
You know if you just hit "hide", that person can't send you another trade request?
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 19:18
#30
lolz. i love threads like
lolz. i love threads like this.
once, i was in the arcade, minding my own business. there was some guy running around, asking for 2k cr. he comes up to me.
him: Can I have 2k cr?
me: srry, but no.
then i walk away. he follows me and askes for 2k cr. i walk away again. he follows me and askes for 2k cr. i run away. he follows me and askes me for 2k cr.
me: WTF IS YOUR PROBLEM???!!! STOP FOLLOWING ME!!!
him: give me 2k cr first.
me: no
at this point, I ran away limke crazy, ziggzagging, doubling back, and generally trying to get away from him. he follows me. guess what he says.
him: can i have 2k cr?
me: AURGH!!!!
*switches to different Haven.
and lots and lots of times, random people begging for insane amounts of cr/ce for free send me a trade request. it's really annoying.
i generally dont beg, unless i am totally desperate. one time, a few days after i started playing, I was rapidly bidding for some thing in the AH. but each time I bidded, someone else bidded. eventually, the price went above how much cr i had. i started shouting, "Can anyone spare 4 cr? I need it very, very desperately." and what do you know? some nice, generous person gives me 4 cr. I thank him, and go back to bidding. then i run out of sufficient cr again. i decide to stop bidding, as I would probably never win.
there was also one times, where i was hanging out in a random haven, wearing my noobie stuff. then there was some guy in a Rose Regelia set, and said, "Who wants a blast bomb?" being me, I said me. then he sent me a trade request, and gave me a free blast bomb. im not sure if it was because i looked like a noob, or he was giving one away just for the heck of it, but I got a free bomb without begging. later, i sold it for 750 cr to a vendor.
Jue, 10/27/2011 - 19:31
#31
...
This is how I beg-
"Selling a bunch of mats! 1k for entire load!" (Usually a bit over 1k, but quick money full of random stuff which I got for free from the arcade, especially selling those Fine Fabrics, tons of Gel Drops, but I aim for giving 3 star materials for the sake of the other person KNOWING they'll gain at LEAST the amount they're giving me.)
Either that or just sell materials and negotiate. Sometimes I do ask for a small 100cr, but mainly I sell materials. People trade with me, therefore I actually sell when I "beg." Would this "begging" be annoying to anyone in Haven 1?
uhh... wtf?