The Spiral beings are evil and power hungry
Tue, 11/08/2011 - 04:03
Upon crash landing on Cradle, instead of trying to make peace with the Gremlins, which are Natives to the Cradle, we decide to annihilate their species. When you reach a foreign place, it would be wise to seek help from the locals, but what do the Spirals decide to do? Kill them all, take their crystals, dig deeper into their planet
As the invaders, we don't really see what the higher ups had planned. Sure, get the crystals and dig deeper, try and find some more neat stuff, but in reality when we get down to those levels we are the monsters
The gremlins made the twins as a means on self defense for the invaders that have begun to strip their planet of resources.
Instead of asking them for help, seeing how they are intelligent enough to construct the twins and other means of weaponry, we decide to kill them on site and dig deeper into their planet so we can suck it dry for ourselves before "crash landing" on to the next planet. Yes, the perfect plan...
All hail the spirals!
Tue, 11/08/2011 - 04:27
#2
Well when we first came to
Well when we first came to Cradle, if we stand in front of a Gremlin, who do you think will attack first? We Spiral Knights kill them because that is the only way to survive in Cradle. So, do we kill the Gremlin's in the bazaar? No! why? because they offer us unique upgrades to let us survive in Cradle.
Tue, 11/08/2011 - 04:31
#3
Only because they were
Only because they were outcast by all the other gremlins. Probably because of the fact that they worked with us, I always assumed that was why they wore the masks. To hide their shame of working with the evil invaders.
Tue, 11/08/2011 - 04:34
#4
Its all making so much sense
Its all making so much sense now...
Tue, 11/08/2011 - 05:41
#5
Is this supposed to be a
Is this supposed to be a parallel to something?
Poor joke. *brick*
Tue, 11/08/2011 - 06:01
#6
Shidara yawns.
I have seen threads like these before. I am still not amused.
Tue, 11/08/2011 - 06:39
#7
i agree
an alliance with
i agree
an alliance with gremlins would be gr8
Tue, 11/08/2011 - 06:41
#8
True. We are the invaders
True. We are the invaders and we are shooting everything that moves. But, look on the bright side. Looks like there's something amiss on cradle. I dunno, some type of swarm corruption. There's also some problem with architect betrayals... or something? We might take care of that before we fix the skylark and leave the planet.
Tue, 11/08/2011 - 06:48
#9
@ Twiddle
Too deep for me.
Tue, 11/08/2011 - 07:48
#10
The Gremlins were always
The Gremlins were always hostile.
They may not even be native to this place, considering this is, you know, a planet that eats worlds.
Tue, 11/08/2011 - 10:25
#11
Theory: chipping away the
Theory: chipping away the protective mineral outcroppings in levels allows the swarm to spread. Just think about it, there's no minerals in the Unknown Passage.
After we chip away too many of the minerals the levels need to be cycled out and destroyed, and a new set cycled in freshly full of protective minerals again, lest the corruption spread.
Tue, 11/08/2011 - 10:29
#12
Well...
I think your overlooking a few key details here, the first of which being the knight's alliance with the strangers, a clearly
peaceful race of beings. And from the look of that Ironclaw factory, the gremlins have had it in for the strangers from
long before our arrival.
As for strip-mining the planet? After steady observation of the inner workings of the clockworks, I have concluded that
the minerals we gather are formed by mist energy (the same that is harvested for your suit) condensing onto an elemental
spark (like you use to purchase mats from brinks). Once this becomes too heavy to remain suspended in the air, it
anchors to a nearby surface, often in a new level of the clockworks. The traits exhibited by the minerals are all defined
by it's seed spark, some of which we have probably not even discovered yet!
While I admit probably not all the right steps were taken, Twiddle has a point. There's something very wrong here.
Also: The spiral order is somewhat disappointed in your attitude and loyalty, and recommend you take a couple of days
off to clear your head. :P
Tue, 11/08/2011 - 14:03
#13
we are evil!
if a gremlin begs for mercy during a level it will be killed for crowns. Thats the whole point of this game because we are knights and knights kill creatures they have never seen before or declare are evil. Pius we are aliens in the game and aliens eliminate everything in movies so of course the knights would eliminate creatures like devilites. Also if the knights saw us humans we would be enslaved or terminated. True?
Tue, 11/08/2011 - 15:07
#14
From what I gather
our first intentions where peaceful. We simply searched for an energy source so we can leave. We are still actively seeking that goal.
We have a peaceful relation with peaceful creatures on this planet, The Strangers.
This is not a real planet, as stated above, it is an eater of worlds, actively consuming other masses to build itself bigger, and being actively worked on by the Gremlins. proof? go ahead and look at the top corner of this forum's background. Or on the main-page, its easier to see there, what do you see? a planet being torn apart, and its shards heading in the same direction. probably towards cradle.
We explored at first, Alpha Team was our scouting unit, you can find their messages remarking on the building of the clockworks after every boss. It can be assumed these forward troops met with great resistance, and probably perished at the hands of hostile creatures, under unknown circumstances.
Under any civilization, the termination of this, most likely scouting, if not peaceful, party is as good as a declaration of war. Also notice that though knights carry weapons into the clockworks, the gates do not close and the weapons are not drawn until hostiles attack first. they may run away, only to attack a moment later, and their deaths allow an escape through the gates -- they closed.
Many of the creatures of the clockworks exhibit outright hostility towards knights approaching, so no. We are as evil as any other sentient creature. As soon as the engineers find a way to obtain energy from the core -- the only thing strong enough to power up our "home"-ship, we'd leave. Until then, we continue exploring and, if necessary, fighting.
Tue, 11/08/2011 - 17:29
#15
*cough*derp*cough*
you obviously havent beaten a shadow lair. we are SAVING gremlins from the swarm in the long run. when we came to Cradle, the gremlins saw us coming into the Clockworks, where (strangely to our perspective as we do not know the story at that point.) they slaved away in the Clockworks. they began doing all they could to stop us from descending deeper down. We marked them as hostile. The recent shadow lair update has revealed the key to it all: they were trying to PROTECT US. Our mission to get energy has turned into a mission to save Cradle's creatures from the Swarm. we do not know who the "architect" is yet; but one thing is clear. we must defeat the Swarm.
Tue, 11/08/2011 - 18:37
#16
@Theskyblade
Huh. I suppose that kind of makes more sense. The Gremlins probably wouldn't be happy if these "aliens" got corrupted by the Swarm too. I guess they'll even resort to attacking us if it means protecting us (and of course, themselves). Though, why they can't communicate and cooperate with us like their outcasts is a mystery.
Tue, 11/08/2011 - 20:19
#17
0-0 its expired
haha ive read so many of ur post never clicked that expired is expired XD nice to cya here
Tue, 11/08/2011 - 23:54
#18
Actually there are
Actually there are speculations that the Architect is the king of Gremlins, but that opens a whole different can of worms, methinks.
Wed, 11/09/2011 - 11:09
#19
my theroy
the swarm was created because the knights killed so many monsters that the under world exploded the gremlens relised this so they tride to keep the swarm from spreding
And I think the crimson order is in plain sight along with king tamazar aka king kromo
Wed, 11/09/2011 - 14:10
#20
Ummm...
Didn't the Skylark crash because the gremlins (or someone else) attacked it? Are the Spiral Knights taking revenge for the destruction of their ship?
Anyway, by asking this question, just reference to IRL history when Europeans killed a lot of the Native Americans. Sure, most died inadvertently of disease, but a great deal were killed too.
Why do people (and spiral knights) do this to indigenous species? The reasoning is the same, but I don't know the answer.
Do note that the knights made peace with the "strangers", though.
Wed, 11/09/2011 - 15:14
#21
I like Theskyblade's theory.
I like Theskyblade's theory. It actually kinda makes sense.
Wed, 11/09/2011 - 16:17
#22
who else thought of gurren
who else thought of gurren lagann when they first read the title, back on topic
@Theskyblade
or they were keeping with the mission, rings a bit of hanlon's razor, the echo logs do say that the cradle was built to protect whatever the core is and it would run with the thought that Tinkinzar is the architect, but then the logs also say the architect has lost it and perverted his creation again keeping with they way the gremlins act now
Fri, 11/11/2011 - 12:56
#23
let keep going
this topik needs more posts
How do we know heat isn't the equivalent of blood to the creatures on Cradle. If so not only are we destroying them but we're using their blood to power our armor and weapons.