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lun, 01/02/2012 - 17:17
Crossproduct

Get rid of the frostbite lockdown map it lags twice as much as all the other maps. All the other maps lag a mega ton anyway even with 3 bars (what is bars anyway computers aren't cell phones, show a real ping in milliseconds like everyone else, you might argue its for kids who don't know better, well stop dumbing it down so kids can learn).

Fix the dumb mistakes you have in your game. I mean it still says "2xKrogmo coins" with no space every time you win a bribe game. It's like you've never actually played your game. Which is completely true.

Fix the weapon switching. If you're charging a weapon and you switch weapons don't just stop charging, switch weapons. Don't force the player to wait for the server to say you can switch weapons, do it client side so lag doesn't affect it. This is like game design 101 here and you've failed. You don't want people to give you harsh feedback about the game sucking all over the forums, then perhaps you should look into fixing all the stupid bugs that are everywhere.

It's clear the only thing you value is money as evidenced by your outlandish prices on things like new content, shadow keys? I mean seriously, lets add a bunch of new content then charge $5 every time a group wants to play it. Every time, if that's not a money grab I don't know what is. Protip: you'll get more satisfied players if you make content more available, and have more of it. Satisfied players = more people willing to spend money. Who knows maybe I'll spend a penny on this game then, ok right I won't never have never will but it's still true.

But ultimately you guys don't even listen to your players. And this will never even get read, if it does it'll just be censored because that's the kind of people Three Rings are, feel free to prove me wrong. If you did listen, you'd have added anti lag when the game first came out after you realized you were dumb and didn't design it into the game. Or you would have realized it when people like this posted: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/23193

He's got the right idea, and obviously he must be smarter than you because otherwise you would have implemented such a simple algorithm to extrapolate objects position at a given time, and adjusted for lag. And if you can't implement it due to architecture of the network system, then that system is fundamentally flawed and should be scrapped and rewritten. I mean these algorithms have been used in computer gaming for more like 2 decades now, and the math easily is a century old. It's 2012 get with the times.

There's so much you could do if you actual cared to make something you would actually play, instead of sitting back and laughing at the people who pay real money for the excrement of your rear end.

< /rant>< /sloppy spelling>

lun, 01/02/2012 - 19:15
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Fehzor
:D

If you're leaving can I have your stuff?

And- the frostbite map doesn't lag that much more for me. Its a terrible map IMO, but thats just an opinion, and isn't anything to complain about, just preference. I prefer the clockworks over LD anyway.

The latest content that was released was all to drive down the price of the energy that makes them money. Be happy that they didn't make the featured auctions cost CE, or that the explorer pack didn't give 4 weeks of epass, 500 ce and a slightly gray tinted chapeau of the overused rose model. OOO knows what they are doing, most of the time.

They listen to the players, but taking action on issues that arise is a very difficult thing. OOO cannot go through every good suggestion, and fix up the game, when they're focusing on fixing the in game economy to keep the community going and growing. And if they don't help the economy, then the game will die.

And they do read these things. Though if they reply, it puts a huge flag that says THE DEVS HAVE BEEN HERE! READ IT! So it doesn't surprise me that they don't reply back very often.

But yes, I'd agree that OOO could and probably should do more.

lun, 01/02/2012 - 19:29
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Playerman
-_-

@Fehzor Three Rings is probably hands full with what they're working on right now. Can't really force them to do more while they're still working on a different project.

@Crossproduct They have mistakes because they haven't got the time to fix them while working on other projects. Frostbite lags because of all the graphics Three Rings has put into the map, don't complain about all the work they've put into the look of the map alone. Three Rings needs money to actually keep the game running, shadow keys helped them keep the budget up so they can expand on the game. I enjoy the game, if you don't I can't help you with that.

lun, 01/02/2012 - 20:25
#3
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Thimol
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OP sounds like a stoopid.

lun, 01/02/2012 - 21:04
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Icee
Lag is from the user's end, not OOO.

I don't have lag problems in any Lockdown map or anywhere else in SK.

I'm guessing the OP has a lousy video card, a lousy ISP, lives in Asia/Oceania (far from the servers), or some combination thereof.

My video card is relatively low end for games, but better than you'd get in most computers off the shelf at Best Buy (it's a Radeon HD5570). I suggest investing in something similar. Also make sure you have at least 10Mbps download from your ISP. This game isn't that demanding, but it is a 3D game and can't be played lag-free on a typical laptop or with a typical DSL connection.

lun, 01/02/2012 - 21:18
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Gabrielcorso
@Icee

Im guessing the OP is a moron,have no brain,is a troll or all of that.

lun, 01/02/2012 - 21:37
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Psychodestroyer
....um

I like Frostbite :D

And I don't have a perfect connection. its somewhere between 1 and 2 bars.

About the 2xKrogmo coin thing....What is it you're fretting about again? The no-spaces part, or the fact that even if you win a bribed game with extra coins as the prize, it still shows that?

The 2x thing is understandable, although I can't quite explain it. And as for the winning a bribed game...the prize is put into another update in your chat log, although I can't quite remember what it actually reads as, I haven't played LD in a while.

mar, 01/03/2012 - 03:21
#7
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Asukalan
No bother, they wont reply in

No bother, they wont reply in here. They dont like to reply to arguments, even if they are valid...

Beside, its another topic where players start to say that devs dont really care about game but about money...

It starts to match the theory:

make game->
give fun->
allow paying money->
add only cosmetic changes and stuff to milk players from money even more->
milk players ->
no new content.... () ....no new content->
paid content->
?????->
Game suddently dissapears,is abandoned and by a 'coencidence' devs of old game started a brand new shiny game somewhere else

(Since according to TOS OOO have every right to terminate game without a warning and you have no right to demand a refund for ingame funds gathered with real money (even if you didnt used them up)...

mar, 01/03/2012 - 17:21
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Zxeroadvent
"You don't want people to

"You don't want people to give you [crap] about the game sucking all over the forums, then perhaps you should look into fixing all the stupid bugs that are everywhere."

>Speak for yourself, because i hardly see any rage posts on this forum, unless with lag and such. this game isn't horrible, it is very good. Even game developers have lives and have other things to do other than ALWAYS listen to us. Raging isn't the best way to address your problems. We are a good resource, but they have other matters to attend too. This game is still young, and has much time to flourish.

"Fix the dumb mistakes you have in your game. I mean it still says "2xKrogmo coins" with no space every time you win a bribe game. It's like you've never actually played your game. Which is completely true."

>What? are you raging over a typo? next....

I don't really understand some of these players that rage at OOO and tell them how to make a game, when 99% of the time the person doesnt know how to make games themselves.

mar, 01/03/2012 - 18:50
#9
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Juances
First, clearly a provocation

First, clearly a provocation or insult at developers.
From all the bugs/glitch this game has, the OP only mentions the most innocent and least gamebreakin ones.
Suddenly, some money rant and a programming lesson.

I wouldn't blame admins for looking away on this one.

There's a difference between talking politely and RAGE RAGE RAGE BLAH BLAH BLAH you suck

mar, 01/03/2012 - 19:11
#10
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Psychodestroyer
:/

Blunt, harsh, and maybe a little irritated, but definitely right - Juances

mar, 01/03/2012 - 19:48
#11
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Thimol
No bother, they wont reply in

No bother, they wont reply in here. They dont like to reply to arguments [and the rest of that post] etc., etc.

That tinfoil hat looks nice on you. You get that from the Halal guy?

mar, 01/03/2012 - 20:26
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Aemicus
I get half my humor related

I get half my humor related reading from people raging on the forums.

mer, 01/04/2012 - 18:38
#13
Crossproduct
>I get half my humor related

>I get half my humor related reading from people raging on the forums.

I've gotten quite a lot of it myself out of the replies on this thread. I should have figured the only people who read the suggestion forum are clueless fanboys.

>And- the frostbite map doesn't lag that much more for me.

Just because it works for you doesn't mean it works for everyone. And I dislike it because it lags more than other maps, the layout is actually decent, so I'll give it a point for that. But it should not be coming up 80% of the time on T1 lockdown now that the steam promotion is over.

>Also make sure you have at least 10Mbps download from your ISP.

Rofl 10 Mbps to play this game, are you joking? no of course you're not. You haven't a clue. 10 Mbps (10 megabits/sec) is a bit over 1 megabyte per second in practice, which is over 1 million bytes/sec (1024^2). Most games use less than 5 kilobytes a second including spiral knights. Use a network monitor utility to learn this if you don't believe me.

>About the 2xKrogmo coin thing....What is it you're fretting about again?

It's not the bug/typo itself, it's just an illustration of how little attention they pay to the game. It just illustrates that they don't care about their game/they don't play it, because if they did play it, they'd notice it right away.

>I don't really understand some of these players that rage at OOO and tell them how to make a game, when 99% of the time the person doesnt know how to make games themselves.

Guess I'm the 1% then. Please don't occupy my bathroom, I need to use it occasionally.

>this game isn't horrible, it is very good.

This game isn't the worst game in the world no, but If you think this game is very good you clearly have not played many games.

>From all the bugs/glitch this game has, the OP only mentions the most innocent and least gamebreakin ones.

I'm sorry I didn't bother to go and list them all. They finally fixed the circuit breaker T1 armor not being vulnerable to fire/freeze today, only took them something like a year. As for talking politely, what's the point, they're going to ignore this either way, might as well have some fun with it.

mer, 01/04/2012 - 19:20
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Aemicus
So... first you complain

So... first you complain about them not fixing bugs, then you complain when they fix them.
Conclusion? OP is a troll who likes raging.

mer, 01/04/2012 - 19:55
#15
Blaze-Breaker
Having read this.

I'd like to say a few things.
1) I agree about the issue of content. They really could go ahead and put more weapons and levels out there. Really their last few updates weren't
really that important. To this day, a drone has never killed me.
2) Assuming that that lag fix is as easily implemented as you say, they should implement that as well.
3) But, your post is so destructively critical in tone that it really kills your credibility. Really. Of course, you don't seem to care about that.
4) Never mind. You seem to have played this game at least to the point of having five star equipment.
All together, a lot of valid points marinating in vitriol. Don't know where you got the idea Three Rings doesn't listen, I mean they implement bug fixes faster than say.. Nexon, and I have a two year old low end laptop in a portion of my house farthest away from the router, and I can manage keeping three or four bars, and the router itself is terrible.

mer, 01/04/2012 - 20:32
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Heavy-Duty
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Raging for no reason at all. Lag is a common problem, but it's mainly connection or computer problem. And how can antilag work? If you implement something, it would take memory to run. More stuff equals more lag. Sorry, but as much as lag is an issue, it's not justifiable to call the GAME YOU PLAY and its developers stupid. Don't like it don't play it. What's keeping you playing, anyway? If SOOOO many players would hate the game, then it's better for them to stop complaining and move on, because this AND EVERY OTHER GAME will introduce something stupid. Yes this game has met its faults, which need to be fixed, but not so much that it justifies just the anger and put downs you have against the developers. They've played the game. They made the game. They're making the game.
Your point of the game being outdated I LAUGH SUPAH HARD. It's a classic, top down hackn'slash scifi simple game. It doesn't teh poppin' outta teh screen HD 3D graphics with Aromascope. Hey it brings more lag that way so I shouldn't be complaining about that when lag is so terrible. bad choice to implement the two in one thread. And they DO read these threads. This has been answered over and over. DON'T PLAY THIS STUPID GAME THEN, TROLL. Hey it's kinda fun huh? I wanna play, you no wanna play. Case closed if yur gonna rage about killing cute puppies and how this game has no meaning. This poor guy will never find a game better than Adventure Quest Worlds... oh how sad. (You like ragin'? U mad?)

mer, 01/04/2012 - 20:47
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Icee
Need for speed

>Rofl 10 Mbps to play this game, are you joking? no of course you're not. You haven't a clue. 10 Mbps (10 megabits/sec) is a bit over 1 megabyte per >second in practice, which is over 1 million bytes/sec (1024^2). Most games use less than 5 kilobytes a second including spiral knights. Use a network >monitor utility to learn this if you don't believe me.

You imply that one would be able to play lag-free on a decent dialup connection (56kbps), which simply isn't the case. I've played on 1.5Mbps DSL and it was possible, but lag was a problem in certain scenes. Admittedly, I haven't tried anything between 1.5 and 10, so 10 may be overkill, but 1.5 was bad and dialup isn't even worth trying.

mer, 01/04/2012 - 20:48
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Aemicus
"I've gotten quite a lot of

"I've gotten quite a lot of it myself out of the replies on this thread. I should have figured the only people who read the suggestion forum are clueless fanboys."

Hmm.. actually, I've noticed that most people who read the forums are either complaining about the game, or trying to find ways to improve it. This wouldn't suggest "fanboy" to me.

And as for you calling this a bad game, that may be how you see it. Good for you. Don't play it. However, there are plenty of hardcore gamers on here who enjoy this. I wouldn't call myself hardcore, but I do play a lot of games like starcraft, skyrim, CoD, and I find this just as enjoyable as they are. So, take your stupid raging elsewhere are don't come back to the forums if you don't like the game.

mer, 01/04/2012 - 21:02
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Heavy-Duty
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Sorry I raged. (...but this is a rage thread, right?) (Not aiming at Aemicus)

mer, 01/04/2012 - 20:57
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Aemicus
Um, wasn't talking to you.

Um, wasn't talking to you.

mer, 01/04/2012 - 21:08
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Zxeroadvent
>this game isn't horrible, it

>this game isn't horrible, it is very good.

"This game isn't the worst game in the world no, but If you think this game is very good you clearly have not played many games."

Har har. You sir are very funny, as i have played many games. For you to rage on something you don't have to play is quite silly in my opinion. There is a difference between giving a suggestion, and simply hating for no reason.

and by the way, Aemicus practically broke it down for you. (don't like it, don't play it.)

mer, 01/04/2012 - 21:30
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Tengu
heh you've managed to

heh you've managed to encapsulate what everyone thinks about this game in a horribly worded, overly angry blob of ignorable ragetyping. You set your aggressive reply knob to 11, and you're cursing in a 13+ forum.

Ladies and gents, this is how good ideas die; they're voiced by morons. Said morons alienate any supporters and get themselves booted/executed/etc.

"Throw down the bourgeoisie" they said, and after lopping off the heads of every important and thoughtful person in France, they're left with inbred morons running a ruined country for years.

"Socialism is great!" they said, then let it morph into a handful of different totalitarian regimes, making socialism a filthy word.

"Fix ur fkin game d00ds" he says, then lashes out like a dog with his testicle caught in a bear trap at everyone and everything, thereby nullifying his position and possibly getting his butt banned.

for the question at hand, I agree that this game should use less CPU, less connection, and less video card than many other MMOs. Too bad it's Java. If you're a 1%er (in referencing to game coding, I hope), why don't you rewrite the game in C++ or some other nerd programming thing, tie a bow on it, and drop it on OOO's doorstep as a late christmas present.

Otherwise, kindly unlatch the bear trap, hobble over to the corner, and continue being ignored. Let the rest of us blue-sky about grenade-healing haze bombs and injecting sparkly vampires into the Cradle fauna.

mer, 01/04/2012 - 22:09
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Blue-Phaze
Stop bumping this useless

Stop bumping this useless thread, please.
It has no good suggestions, plus it's obvious it's only a rage...
Stop bumping this stupid thread.... -.-
Please don't post more comments here.

jeu, 01/05/2012 - 09:34
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Aumir
Exactly

I am baffled at how some topics with ideas aren't replied by no one or 2 people and this kind of things which make me facepalm get so much post. Do you want a real suggestion? MAKE A REPORT BUTTON. There. And last bump to this topic, hopefully, sorry Blue-Phaze.

jeu, 01/05/2012 - 10:08
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Tengu
@aumir

nope.

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