What else to say?

@Nick

At least tweak some weapon's damage or the "invincibility frame" but please don't bring it back in its previous form.

The pros outweight the cons (IMO)

I like the fact that the DVS is better, RSS damage now makes SENSE, and blitz needle actually works. I think that the brief moment of invulnerability was keeping skilless players alive too long, and in LD they pop up all too fast. However, due to the increased spammability of the flourish and DVS, this will have to be fixed, or you have to remove AA from LD. And you haven't shown any signs of doing that.

I agree with Dr. spacebar in post number 41. Some tweaking should be done to encourage diversity in the game. OOO, please listen the level headed people in the community on this one. I did notice people dusting off some other weapons in LD that are normally looked over as not being useful like the blitz. Personally if you are running at someone with a charged blitz needle when they obviously have it aimed at you thinking I can kill him/her without a scratch, you deserve to die from it. Same goes for a cutter line user (reasoning: cutters have little range compared to let's say a BTB/FF).

IMO, the bug has opened the door to a great opportunity for improvement in LD. Most of the people I see playing LD think that it is a click fest. I play mostly as a recon, using the element of surprise to my advantage. I've killed I don't know how many people with a mega magnus in T3 LD with that tactic. Personally I get a hardy laugh from a hammer user or a stiker trying to tank an alchemer shot or run through my VT mist to hit me only to get killed by a lonely recon. Good times...

My suggestion is giving the invuln time back in certain situations like being mobbed and to the guardians. I think that it would be wise to allow an opportunity for the single survivor to escape a mob, although most people would try to be a hero, *and* it will allow the guardian to retain it's value.

@Psykoglory

Except the problem is, when you wear magic series armor, you will get owned by toothpick strikers (if they're any good).

What exactly do you want? An armor that resist all type of damages? That is like eating a cake and having it too.

The reason ppl dont find first swing/shield cancel is annoying is because it requires actual skill, unlike spamming the crap out of combos. XD

Its not the tactic we are complaining about, its Flourish. 90% of the players uses only the first swing because it works like a heavy sword only much faster.
So enlighten me..what is the best counter against it?

Also I have yet to see a player using the DA/GF first swing shield cancel or dash tactic the same way Flourish's first swing is used (as a striker)

Now about "actual skill". It is a subjective word you know, different views from different people. I would not use it as a base for my argument because of it.

But since you mentioned it so do this; freeze someone and land a charged attack of sudaruska on him/her.It is very simple for a skillful player....yes?

Now do you think it is fair if you are killed by an Autoaim spammer if you have skill? DO you think it is the least bit annoying when a hammer user rushes you form the bottom and you are one combo killed? Since the majority of LD players use flourish lines, using magic armor lines will not help. The only problem i have with the hammer is the length of the lunge they have. If a player runs out of boost, the lunge is long enough to be able to hit the player running away with the 3rd combo, which i believe is not fair. Also, the luge allows the hammer user to practically not use boost at all. IF a hammer user is a recon, they can run away with the lunge, which gets even more annoying.

Autoaim spammers (cutter lines, flourish lines, etc) are able to kill without skill. All they need to do is press the attack button over and over again, without having to aim. Overall, i feel that Lockdown is broken. Skill is not valued in Lockdown. Lockdown is a competition, and using Autoaim is almost like cheating. I honestly believe Autoaim should be removed from Lockdown because it should be competition based, not recreation. Yes, I understand that if you are new to Lockdown, you may want to use Autoaim, but people just take advantage of it nowadays. I want the winning team to be based off skill, not how fast you can attack with Autoaim.