They're just fancier versions of the Leviathan Blade and Aegis. Nothing special, other than a cool look ;)

Ah, kk.

And that's exactly why the entire guild (or atleast more then 3 people) have to chip in, it was all thought out around that. If it's just 1 person paying for all of it, yeah i can see why it'll feel really expensive but only 1 person shouldnt be paying it all.

I understand that completely.

The problem is, every member in my guild except for myself is 3* or lower. Those members aren't able to bring in enough crowns to spare for the treasury.

I've tried and failed in the past to find any guildless 4*/5* players to join my guild. The ones that were guildless either preferred to join a guild that was already large and well-established, or they had no intentions of joining a guild at all.

It's a catch-22. I need more capable players to help the guild, but the capable players don't wish to join because the guild is lacking such players.

EDIT: Somehow this last part got cut out of the post. Here's the rest of what I said:

"I'm sure my guild isn't the only guild experiencing this type of problem. Small guilds obviously won't be able to pay for the upkeep that larger guilds can.

I think it'd be better if the upkeep was scaled relative to the guild's size. Guilds with a large amount of members would be required to pay more for upkeep, because they are much more capable of doing so. Smaller guilds would pay a lower upkeep, on a level that would still be high enough to require participation from all guild members, but low enough so that they can afford it."

ok, i want the snarbolax pet, tell me how

@Laraso: You are certainly not the only one with this problem. I am in the same situation.

It would be more useful if we could work our ways to certain upgrades without expanding the full hall, and also allow people to customize better. Say, if I want my guild to be entirely on the West side, I could maybe do a 1F West Wing and a 2F West Wing without upgrading the East Wing at all... This would also help keep costs low for guilds where it really is just one person paying for the upkeep.

I wouldn't want more people in my guild anyway. It is a private friends and family guild, but that shouldn't mean that we can't feasibly access the things other guilds can access.

I just realized how funny this is, since the upkeep is like taxes.
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@Laraso, @Vifig

Exactly. I am in the same situation... my guild is a small group of friends who know each other in real life, plus we don't all play regularly. But we still want to have a nice guild hall. The upkeep fees are unfair and unrealistic for a small group. I agree that perhaps upkeep should be tiered, with larger guilds paying more. Small groups like mine simply can't afford it!

SK team, it's not right to say that because we are a small group we're not allowed to have nice things... we should be able to access all the guild amenities just like a huge guild can. Please please make a change in the way this is set up! Paying a high, one time cost for the guild features is one thing, but upkeep as or more expensive than buying the feature itself is completely unsupportable. And we can't even access any of the features unless we pay for expansions we can't support.... not fair...

I don't need it to be cheap. I just want to be able to open the things I want without opening things I don't need. I'm not wanting to jump straight to a mist well or whatever it is people are talking about, or something, I just want to only have my guild hall expanded on the West side and up, or have a snipe garden on the first floor, and things like that. I want to be able to customize without having to pay for empty spaces to reach the spaces I want.

So are the training halls coming in a later patch? I didn't get to see any response to that.

Already see the guild training hall. its awesome, but, i guess its the last expansion you can buy for your GH.
this update is awesome, but is a pain in the ass to the small guilds

Sees that there will be a guild hall update: YES!

Sees that it's gonna be a guild hall EXPANSION: Huh... Expansion? You mean we have to buy it? No... I must be thinking too hard. Maybe they put expansion to make it seem cooler.

Day the Guild Hall Expansion comes out and expands my guild, noticing you gotta pay for it to expand and pay for it to stay expanded: Why am I not surprised... ಠ_ಠ

@Vifig: If it's quick access you want, there's still the Mission Lobbies.

-Windsickle

Haha, nahh, I just like having a guild crafting machine. When I recruit new people to SK it was one of the stops on my tour... as was the view of the Clockworks turning in the background. Nostalgia really.

/e laughs at all the people laughing at other people's misery because they clearly lack a soul.

In any case, maybe make honour gear recipes buyable with prestige points? That'd at least give them a use.

I was really looking forward to the Guild Hall update. I thought this day could only bring joy and happiness to my life, even if only for a moment before I noticed my guild is far too small to get the large type of Guild Hall. Still, I got a content update, and I was happy. What's this? An Ascended Honor Blade? Whoa, this looks pretty cool! It's just the 4* version though...Apparently being JUUUST under the threshold for Vanguard gave me this. I'm a dedicated Calibur line user, and I absolutely love the simple yet effective mechanics. Makes the game a bit more difficult than Brandish-Blasting my way through a level. So I look around and see the 5* Honor Blade. This thing is AWESOME. Just. Awesome. Naturally my knights personal color quickly switches from blue to green, envious of this epic sword. "What if I rush to Vanguard, will they give me the upgrade? I know I can get there, I just need another day or two..." I started gathering resources as quickly as I could to get to the missions I needed to, but then I ran out of mist and so I decided to come over to the forums. To my dismay, it seems as though I won't get my 5* Vanguard Leviathan. Had I had some kind of warning that this awesome weapon would be mine if I was Vanguard by this time, I would have invested MUCH more time into this game, maybe even tried to get myself some CE via paying for it with some money from work and whatnot. Unfortunately I had no such warning, so I got slapped in the face with the news that I would be forced to not get a fancy 5* version of the blade that use the most and so dearly love. To say the least, I have an idea on how OOO can make it so that I can get my sword, as I feel kind of cheated. Make it so that we can use prestige to get the recipe's via the supply depot, or have sullivan sell the recipes for the Honor Blades to get upgraded for the next couple of weeks. Not to craft new ones, leaving the 2* recipe out, but to further any version of the sword that you currently have up to 5*.

TL;DR: I have uber sad because I can't get the 5* Honor Blade now.

I beat on them because cautery sword is terrible :P

And IMO leviathan blade is one of the 5 worst 5* swords in the game. Prove me wrong!

Make all the recent Vanguards have that 5 star blade and shield D:

It's upsetting for me too! I feel way worse since my becoming Vanguard was literally 5 minutes away, had I not decided to go to bed and do it the next morning (which would mean an hour shy of the update for me in Singapore). I'm excited about the Guild Hall update and all, but this puts a huge damper on it :(

I hope there'd be a way for the rest of us to get the 5* versions somehow.

Can anyone tell me how many rooms does it take to unlock

guildstorage,
crafting machine,
mist well,
auction house.

thx

This is fun

It's not "We want every piece of exclusive gear!" (Although I want a set of Black Rose... ah well) it's "We couldn't get the optimal piece of exclusive gear even though we logged on at the specific date, now you gave us a sword that will be useless going forward!" So add the Honour Alchemy Machine furniture to all GUILDS that were on on the specific date. Or whenever. Do it to all currently existing ones, I'm not picky. And this machine upgrades Blades and Guards with the same recipes as the matching Cobalt. Also, possibly the ability to make more Honour equipment. Whole armour set? I'd certainly nab an Honour Robe. It adds a little CE sink. Not enough to offset the drop from the existing update, but enough to mitigate the effect when, inevitably, the price slingshots back up... I think I'll put this post in Suggestions too.

Don't diss the Levi, it's a can do sword in every situation, especially it's charge attack.