What guns are you hoping to see in the update?
Do you want some guns to be buffed or nerfed?
What guns are you hoping for?
So, 11/03/2013 - 12:33
So, 11/03/2013 - 12:43
#2
Buffs to the Catalyzer
Obsidian Carbine made the Biohazard less ideal. And Catalyzers in general are a niche weapon.
So, 11/03/2013 - 12:45
#3
I'm hoping to see two dozen entirely new 5* guns like Nick's announcement implied rather than damage-type and status variants of old guns with prerequesites that stay relevant for about 2 hours until you've heated them, a mechanical buff for Catalyzers and a new Catalyzer variant. I'm hoping for these imbalances to be resolved:
- Blitz Needle vs Plague Needle (Blitz is too strong.)
- Sentenza vs Obsidian Carbine (Carbine should have reduced damage compared to Sentenza.)
- Sentenza vs Obsidian Carbine (Carbine should have reduced damage compared to Sentenza.)
- Alchemers versus Shard Bombs (Shard bombs have a hit limit while Alchemers do not. There is no reason why one should have it and not the other as they work on the same principle of 'spreading out' to inflict damage and status to crowds.)
- Iron Slug vs Supernova (Supernova is as strong as Slug, but has three shots and allows much more mobility and range.)
- Iron Slug vs Callahan. (Callahan has a status and Iron Slug does not. Other pure-damage guns usually have more damage than their status equivalents.)
- Iron Slug vs Everything Else. (Magnus line needs a buff.)
- Switch-shooting allows for infinite ammo, removing the purpose of having a reload mehanic.
So, 11/03/2013 - 12:52
#4
Oh No! They saw right through me!
I want a dual wield gun. Y'know, craft 2 guns, use 2 guns. Actually this has probably been thought of, and the tools are not available to do it.
(Like Iron Slug?)
@Zeddy
I agree on the reloading mechanic, but they should still have some sort of switch shooting mechanic, It should just need more skill.
So, 11/03/2013 - 12:47
#5
Wolfe-knight applauds
Silly Xtweeterx, we dont want a useless polaris, we want more polaris!
More serious now, A return of the piercing antigue would be great. Also I want to get my hands on the grim repeater, JK isnt dying fast enough already (come on, even without SS we know its a shadow gun).
So, 11/03/2013 - 12:49
#6
@Zeddy
You put Sentenza vs Obsidian Carbine twice.
So, 11/03/2013 - 12:54
#7
I don't really know about the
I don't really know about the "buff the iron slug" thing.I has a full damage bar already,do you mean to increase the speed?
So, 11/03/2013 - 12:58
#8
It's fun to already know
It's fun to already know everything that is coming, and watch people speculate.
Entertain me, minions!!
So, 11/03/2013 - 13:00
#9
Oh No! They saw right through me!
@Daljiac
If you could dual wield magnis lines, that would be good and possibly overpowered.
So, 11/03/2013 - 13:05
#10
Wolfe-knight applauds
@Damienfoxy
Shh, we must be vague but also help out these poor people for what is coming.
So, 11/03/2013 - 13:09
#11
Even if I already know what they're like, I'm still excited to collect them all nonetheless.
So, 11/03/2013 - 13:09
#12
Looking at vague stat bars on
Looking at vague stat bars on Spiral Knights equpiment has never the best way to analyze equipment in Spiral Knights, except statuses.
I really want a magnus-line buff. It could see a large increase in damage while remaining balanced.
The slow speed of pulsar line bullets in no way makes up for the competitively large damage and AOE, and moderate status on hit.
Nick said they would tackle the bug of internal richochets on the alchemer line. This should either not be removed, and labeled as a feature, though OHKO of the charge on a lumber is probably not okay, I hope they balance out the removal of internal richochets by adding more bullets spreading out from the main charge bullet, to add to the crowd control and richochet aspect.
and the new gunner set better not be "Mad Gunner" armor. (unless it boosts ASI too)
So, 11/03/2013 - 13:13
#13
Oh No! They saw right through me!
This better not be a troll, Wolfe
Time to go grind jelly!
So, 11/03/2013 - 13:17
#14
I'm crossing my fingers for
I'm crossing my fingers for they release a gun to counter Devilites. Sick of the little Trojan things. Possibly a machine gun of some sort that does damage depending on distance but has a strong interrupt. Think of it as the Heavy's Minigun from TF2, and no I am not trying to rip off this.
So, 11/03/2013 - 13:35
#15
@Daljac
Have you tried Iron Slug? It needs a buff.
The damage bar being 'full' doesn't indicate anything. Most 5* swords and bombs extend far beyond the bar's visual limit.
So, 11/03/2013 - 13:45
#16
gods ain't gonna help you, son.
I'm not hoping for any guns because I already seen them all. I'm hoping for those armors.
I want polaris and blitz to be nerfed and slug to be usable. that's all.
So, 11/03/2013 - 13:50
#17
Pierce antigua (Gilded
Pierce antigua (Gilded Griffin)
Shadow autogun (Grim Repeater)
New polaris
New magnus
New catalyzer
New blaster
New alchemer (Winter Grave?)
This is what I'd bet on, if Apocrea is an indication. Not that I wouldn't mind at all, since I like the new Apocrea stuff and wouldn't mind some 'new' guns.
So, 11/03/2013 - 13:54
#18
Wolfe-knight applauds
@Whimsicality
You need to be a bit more quiet, that might not be vague enough for OOO.
Side note: I feel sorry for all the devilites after this patch.
@Trollheim
Hmm
Hmm
HMMMMMMMMM
Hmm
nope
HMMMMMMMMM
nope.
Thats the best I can do without spoiling, hope I gave you some signs of things to come.
So, 11/03/2013 - 15:51
#19
@Xtweeterx
I'm sorry, I'm so sorry...
So, 11/03/2013 - 16:48
#20
@Zeddy
But if the damage bar is full, how will they fit more damage into it?
And yes, I feel about the same way as you do in regards to this "gunner update".
So, 11/03/2013 - 17:02
#21
The damage bars are just a visual guesstimation of the relative damage output to other swords/weapons, as is the speed bars.
So, 11/03/2013 - 17:02
#22
Stuff that is actually new, and well-thought out instead of what I'm dreading to be a hot mess that is going to throw off the balance even more. :s
So, 11/03/2013 - 17:09
#23
new gun lines as opposed to
new gun lines as opposed to new guns in existing lines.
but a shadow pulsar would be cool....
So, 11/03/2013 - 17:12
#24
New NEW guns!
I'm quite content with the type of guns we already have thou we could always use a 5* piercing antigua or an elemental blitz, but entirely new type of guns would be amazing: I want to try new ways to attack!
Also, while I'm also excited for more gunner armors, I'm a bit less hopeful in that regard... probably because I already have my preferred gunner set and heating 5* stuff right now is almost impossible. I'll wait to see what OOO has under their sleeve with them.
Also, can we please expect a similar update for bombers? I-I JUST WANT AN ELEMENTAL BLAST BOMB, OOO. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK?!
@Zeddy
I dont think its that the blitz is too strong, it's that the plague needle is too weak. Nerfing Blitz would just make a whole lot of people angry. Buffing the plague needle would be better option, imo.
So, 11/03/2013 - 17:32
#25
I'm hoping for an Elemental Autogun Line that spew expanding Supernova Shots that inflict Strong Fire.
So, 11/03/2013 - 17:33
#26
Yet nobody pays attention to
Yet nobody pays attention to new gunnerr armor? Disappointed...
Weapon balancing needs to happen, but probably wont. Honestly, I think Polaris only needs a slight nerf. Like a two shot clip. And Catalyzers need something like have the charges auto-detonate instead of disappear.
But lets be honest, OOO will make some stupidly OP thing that randers like every other gun useless.
Polaris buff, Blitz Needle buff, iron slug nerf, and another acheron buff incoming!!! (yes dimwit, I know acheron isnt a gun).
Ooh, lets not forget a Buff to all brandishes to make charges have 10 explosions.
So, 11/03/2013 - 17:42
#27
Kinda curious about what the Armors will offer.
We have two ASI Sets(Nameless/Justifer), one DMG Set(Shadowsun) & seperate Helm(Cyclops Cap), one Helmet that provides a CTR Bonus(Mask of Seerus), & a Hybrid Specialist(Deadshot).
I wonder if there's going to be a CTR Set. Heck, introduce an MSI Set & I just might try my hand at Gunslinging.
So, 11/03/2013 - 17:53
#28
Is Zeddy like a gunner or something?
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I'm looking forward to guns that look awfully close to Modern First Person Shooters. *cough-Grim Repeater!-*cough
So, 11/03/2013 - 17:54
#29
Lul
Whims and those hints,
All I can say, reskins are comen :v
But I am intrigued on the armors stats that are going to come wif the update.
So, 11/03/2013 - 18:03
#30
SPOILERS!
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Freeze pulsar, I want it!
So, 11/03/2013 - 18:06
#31
@Burq
Plague Needle can instantly kill Trojans up until a 3-man elite party, where you'll need to follow up with a regular burst to finish them off. You'll understand me if I think such a weapon has no use for a buff.
So, 11/03/2013 - 18:31
#32
Pure Piercing Antigua line >
Pure Piercing Antigua line > everything.
So, 11/03/2013 - 18:43
#33
PLEASE buff the Antigua guns.
PLEASE buff the Antigua guns. They're my favorite, and I hate using Alchemers.
Piercing Antigua, do want.
Make Antigua charges better.
New gunner armor? Interesting.
That's about it.
To all the guys hoping for new gun lines:
"These new handguns are designed to offer gunners more options, targeting areas where gunners may have experienced gaps in damage types."
Sounds to me like it's reskins of current guns. Sorry, but it's true.
So, 11/03/2013 - 18:45
#34
Piercing alchelmers.... let
Piercing alchelmers.... let the ricochet exploits begin....
Mo, 11/04/2013 - 02:53
#35
Let's just say it's gonna be
Let's just say it's gonna be a sure as shootin, good update
Mo, 11/04/2013 - 03:13
#36
@Damienfoxy
Well, I wouldn't quite fire that round yet. There's some silver bullets loaded for it, but a lot of it might be affected by bullet drop for a lot of people. We still have the armors to take a shot at, though.
Mo, 11/04/2013 - 03:15
#37
Good Lord... don't give OOO any ideas. Guns with consumable bullets would be pretty poopie
Mo, 11/04/2013 - 03:22
#38
I already know the guns to
I already know the guns to come, and it kills me that the test server isn't up, or that we can't offer our suggestions on them because of the no spoilers rule.
I personally feel that if the community could get a say before they even hit testing phase, it could lead to extremely balanced weapons. OOO needs to treat us as more than players, they need to treat us as if we work for them too, but for free. I mean, we're constantly exposed to the game, we constantly find bugs and errors and analyze all the stats... OOO needs to utilize their player base as a tool for improving
Mo, 11/04/2013 - 03:27
#39
@Damienfoxy
Oh, yeah, it would be way more balanced. No, seriously, it would. Number one rule of video games: don't trust the company to balance their game - trust the players. After all, they're the ones who play it.
Mo, 11/04/2013 - 03:28
#40
I kinda wonder if they have playtesters within the community, or if they just leave it to themselves and the test servers. If not, I volunteer! New stuff ftw!
Mo, 11/04/2013 - 03:33
#41
I have experience in
I have experience in balancing games for various secondlife Sims, not as a developer, but as a player. The developers came to me with questions about their game, as well as various other players, and most of the time, they were surprised to hear ideas that they never dreamed of.
With a community this big, I can see why they tune a lot of us out... But I actually read the suggestions, bug reports, and technical issues, and I'm happy to read them and discuss them until a conclusion is reached where more people are happy, instead of upset.
Mo, 11/04/2013 - 03:35
#42
A mid-power Needler-type gun
A mid-power Needler-type gun that can be aimed during the barrage. Be able to sweep 20-30 or even 45 degrees in one shot!
Mo, 11/04/2013 - 03:41
#43
An auto fire with
An auto fire with maneuverability is a tricky balance, we have multiple factors to consider which are move speed, recovery time, damage per shot, shots per trigger, charge style, with such ease of movement and a possible high dps, it needs what is called a bane, something that is a noticeable negative effect
Mo, 11/04/2013 - 03:48
#44
I hope the antigua shoots rainbows (one of every damage type lolololololo)
Mo, 11/04/2013 - 03:52
#45
Well... It is six shots...
Well... It is six shots...
Mo, 11/04/2013 - 03:52
#46
I mean all with one bullet
Mo, 11/04/2013 - 03:55
#47
What's the fun in that?
They
What's the fun in that?
They also need to make an elemental style antig that looks and fires like a star wars blaster
Mo, 11/04/2013 - 04:00
#48
Maybe if they make it fire all weapon types people will be happy? And it'd look neat in LD with rainbow colors flying off the player
Mo, 11/04/2013 - 04:04
#49
I get to say what I want right?
Nerf blasters
Buff pulsars
More pulsars
Nerf Carbine's damage to fit with status infliction VS no status
Make a shadow poison alchemer
Elemental neutralizer
Piercing antigua
Buff iron slug
Remove stun from callahan and put it on iron slug
That is all, and no I don't care what any of you argue, this is my opinion and mine only
Mo, 11/04/2013 - 04:10
#50
Yeah... Only your opinion...
Yeah... Only your opinion... Doubt anyone else has one just like in.... Or even similar
I want the Polaris to be rendered officially useless. And all the other Polarises too if those will ever exist.