Spiral Knights - Make 'breaker' shield inflict status with shield bash

Make 'breaker' shield inflict status with shield bash

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Sat, 05/24/2014 - 17:38

Xephyris

The Blazebreak, Blizzbreaker, and Surge Breaker shields are all 3star shields that are fairly pointless. So my idea is to give them a special shield bash which inflicts their related statuses, fire, freeze, and shock respectively. This would be similar to the swiftstrike buckler which is a 3star but is also useful in endgame in some circumstances.

Of course I'm no expert at balancing, so maybe in addition the shields could deal mixed stun and their related status, so the shield bash for the blazebreak shield would deal fire AND stun at the same time.

Also, due to frozen and shocked enemies potentially getting in the way of the bash and defeating the purpose, the shields would deal the statuses by leaving a trail of mist that would inflict the status to enemies behind it, and not in front.

Discuss!

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 20:25

Qwez

Nitpick

Leaving a trail of mist behind would do absolutely nothing, as your shield bash would push enemies away. Nothing should be behind you when you shield bash.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 22:33

Fehzor

If you pushed your way into a large number of enemies drawing aggro, you could perhaps pull it off. A status dealing mist type mechanic like you described would be one that I've wanted to see for quite some time now as well- it could be applied to various armors, shields, weapons... etc. for balance.

Sat, 05/24/2014 - 22:40

Dephagos

I like the idea for the

I like the idea for the mechanic, against applying it to 3* shields that cannot be upgraded, maybe if the breaker lines were extended to 4* otherwise an effect for different (or even new) shields

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 01:58

Dracora-Speaking

As far as behind, you can work bashes so you graze by enemies horizontally, AND your teamates can work with you if you plan ahead to place, say, a vortex in just the right spot at just the right time. so yeah. +1 to that too, but, I'd still have status proc at the front as well.

though I wouldn't use the frz one as much (due to the nature of bash combat), myself. Fire? Shock? yes. A lot.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 02:48

Deludere

A False Belief

I think this is still quite useless as the shields can be easily bested by other shields (Grey Owlite, Crest of Almire). Maybe if you add this AND 5* versions, it might become a semi-mainstream shield.

Sun, 05/25/2014 - 05:35

Xephyris

@qwez good point, maybe the

@qwez good point, maybe the way it could work is anything that touches the shield gets knocked back, and THEN inflicted with the status. So this would mean in the case of the blizzbreaker shield, there would be a pathway of frozen enemies on either side.

Also like I said I'm no expert at balancing, but I think it would be best to leave it at 3star, or maybe make it a very weak 4star shield. The swiftstrike buckler as a shield is virtually useless for t3, there's no point actually putting your shield up. So you trade the defense of a shield for better offense. These shields would be similar, you trade the defense of a usable shield for a status-afflicting attack which could be quite useful. Also these shields have max status resist for their respective types, so they would also be useful in that respect for defending against zombie mist, etc.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 01:37

Deludere

A False Belief

You see, Grey Owlite shield also has max status resist, for BOTH shock and fire, with no negative effects. Really, the status things would just be UP. You easily cause status with the ever-spammed brandish or mist bombs. The swiftstrike buckler is effective because the bonu it gives is SO DARN HIGH. Status is almost nothing in comparison.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 04:22

Jenovasforumchar

I like the idea on the way you pointed it, but I'd like to see medium or strong status dealing shields. An additional strong fire blast in my Obsidian crusher is an idea I really like :3

There is no need in upgrading shields further because you pointed it already: trade offense for defense.

As a suggestion of the status strength: the 1* could deal minor, 2* medium and 3* strong status.

Out of the nature of bash ability, it will always add stun, too.

Refering to that idea of leaving mist behind:
It would be usually contraproductive to the current use of shield bashes since enemies usually get bashed away. I got an image of a reverse-Brandish charge with 2* mist bomb hazes instead of brandish explosions. But it would be another way of shield bash style that allows another way to play: not as offense but as a defense tactic: you get fallowed by devilities, use shield bash in the opposide direction, devilities fallow you, get frozen -> win.
It could also effectively freezelock an emey that is standing aside a wall.

Mon, 05/26/2014 - 08:05

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