Spiral Knights - Transfer Unwanted/Unused Heat to Crowns!!!

Transfer Unwanted/Unused Heat to Crowns!!!

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Fri, 06/06/2014 - 09:40

The-Rec

Ok, I've gotten to the point of having mastered all my weapons and sprites and yet I'm as broke as my heart from my ex-girlfriend. I want to suggest the idea of being able to trade in all of that built up, unusable heat to make crowns. I also want to suggest the idea of unbinding rarities or at least make them sellable to merchants because I have nearly 3,000 radiants and shining and nothing to do with them, along with the 90 eternals that I'll never use.

Comment your opinion about my ideas.

Thanks,
The-Rec

Fri, 06/06/2014 - 11:44

Dephagos

unbind our rarities!

yes, have rarities picked up unbound, i cant understand why they're bound in the first place

aside from the fact that i suddenly want to be able to purchase all those radiant fire crystals off you, i went to help out a friend a few days ago, trade the one eternal orb that they needed only find them all bound, but i dont need them anymore

im not to crash hot on the heat to crowns thing though sorry, it does feel like an absolute waste i know but it would dramatically raise the effective payout of every level since as soon as you've leveled your gear/need money now you instantly swap to a fully leveled set and rake in the extra crowns

Fri, 06/06/2014 - 14:13

Skepticraven

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"yes, have rarities picked up unbound, i cant understand why they're bound in the first place"

Got two words for yah:
Alt Dragging.

Vendor rarities, sure. Trading them, no.
Heat to crowns makes no sense (unless you employ gremlin slave labor, which I don't support).

Fri, 06/06/2014 - 14:49

Pipipipipi

Move over! There's bubble-wrap to be popped!

at least make them sellable to merchants because I have nearly 3,000 radiants

Pics or it didn't happen

Sat, 06/07/2014 - 13:41

Ironic-Biscuit

BAD IDEA ALERT

No.

Fri, 06/06/2014 - 15:16

Fehzor

@Skepticraven

I thought it was because of how no one was expanding their arsenal at all. The idea was that if I had 5000 radiants and eternals and elites and shinnings and all of that jazz, then I would want to craft extra gear because there wouldn't be a reason not to and it would help me. Prior to the existence of radiants, there was a large incentive to not do this- crafting things directly required large sums of money, which made your existing gear lesser than it would be if you had rolled variants onto it. Combined with the fact that most of the gear in the game is relatively unnecessary, it didn't make much sense to branch out.

This is another reason that I don't think the lack of radiants was done on purpose to begin with. Adding such a huge grind at the end didn't fit with what they'd done for the game directly prior, as it kind of reinstated the issue.

The alt dragging theory, while probably right to some extent, wasn't ever actually mentioned. Or perhaps it was and I missed it? I do not know. I really don't think that was their primary motivation, and I really don't think it was all that bad for the game-- not a ton of people even bothered to do it, unless there was a good reason; for instance, finding 20+ kat fetishes worth of tokens and no black kat cowl? FSC alt dragging time.

Fri, 06/06/2014 - 15:17

The-Rec

@Pipipipipi

http://i.imgur.com/f9DsXuW.png

Fri, 06/06/2014 - 15:20

Fehzor

@OP

Why on earth haven't you crafted anything with all of those rads??? That is literally why the developer gave them to you.

Fri, 06/06/2014 - 15:29

The-Rec

@Fehzor

All I do on SK is farm Vana for crowns for costumes and event weapons which require no eternals to be crafted and I have all the gear I need for Vana

Fri, 06/06/2014 - 16:21

Pipipipipi

Move over! There's bubble-wrap to be popped!

More Radiants then Shinings?

/stands there in awe

Fri, 06/06/2014 - 16:24

#10

Fehzor

So you can have free gear that might make the game more entertaining for you, but you'd rather just mindlessly farm so that you can get costumes? I guess if you're into that kind of thing... but doesn't it get a bit stale after a while? And by a while I mean two or three weeks if not sooner?

Fri, 06/06/2014 - 21:57

#11

Dephagos

more gear

@Fehzor i guess i can see your point, if they were trade-able there would be less of an incentive to craft multiple sets of gear, but if that's the case then shouldn't mission reward rarities also be bound, in my own twisted little head it seems like somebody screwed up and accidentally bound the wrong ones and nobody has cared since

@Skepticraven as for alt dragging, since it already occurs for crowns what difference does it make really, some chump's happy to run all over clockworks collecting radiants for you rather than the abysmal 3-12 available per T3 dive, let them

Sat, 06/07/2014 - 14:34

#12

Sandwich-Potato

Because allowing the whole party to get crowns makes alt dragging four times easier.

Sat, 06/07/2014 - 14:52

#13

Fangel

No to unbinding rarities

Rarities are bound so that we have to run the clockworks. You can make a fortune off merchanting, but good luck leveling up your gear without any rarities, unless you bought those too.

What I would like to see is a community heating station. Two knights would get to "pool" their items together for heating. You and the other knight would both choose an item that needed to be heated, then share fire crystals until the needed amount for both pieces of gear is reached. This is only accessible in Haven somewhere as not to be the only way you heat up equipment.

Perhaps you could also "donate" fire crystals to a community heating station, and would get the fire crystal's star level x5 of crowns given to you (0* = 1 crown, 1* = 5 crowns, 2* = 10 crowns, etc.) and then anyone who used the heat station in the next few hours would get "free" fire crystals. When using the station, your donated fire crystals only will last for 4 hours, and diminish in supply by 1/4th of the total you put in every hour, rounded up. (If you donate 1 radiant, it will disappear after 1 hour. If you donate 2 radiants, it will go down to 1 in an hour, and be gone after 2. If you donate 100 fire crystals, 25 would be lost every hour.) The stations would also only allow players to use half of the needed fire crystals when forging, so they must have at least 50% of the crystals to forge. (If I need 102 radiants to level up, I must provide 51 radiants and someone will have had to have donated 51 radiants or more recently). When using the community heating station, players would also have to pay a fee for using the donated crystals (0* = 10 crowns, 1* = 25 crowns, 2* = 100 crowns, 3* = 250 crowns, 4* = 500 crowns, 5* = 1000 crowns).

Maybe fire crystals that are unbound don't disappear when donated. Bound : Mist energy :: Unbound : Crystal energy?

Maybe I should turn this into its own suggestion.

Sat, 06/07/2014 - 22:02

#14

Dephagos

running running running

to level gear you already have to run the clockworks, heating up your gear so that you can forge it.
i like the fact that you have to play a bit to get your gear leveled up, what i dislike is having to grind T3 hundreds of times because, either from poor luck or silly design you tend to get very, very few radiant fire crystals (come on 15 or less per full T3 dive is ridiculous when you need over 102 to level a single piece of equipment by one level that is fully heated in a dive) - its forcing a massive grind, especially since nobody is going to regularly spend 700energy on 50 radiants

@Sandwich-Potato i think that may have been intended for a different thread as i dont actually see how thats relevant to this one

@Fangel sharing fire crystals with payout/cost to use i would absolutely upvote since it appears trading rarities is a fiendish act of sacrilege

Sat, 06/07/2014 - 23:43

#15

Sandwich-Potato

as for alt dragging, since it already occurs for crowns what difference does it make really, some chump's happy to run all over clockworks collecting radiants for you rather than the abysmal 3-12 available per T3 dive, let them

Sun, 06/08/2014 - 07:05

#16

Skepticraven

@Fehzor

My comment was definitely on topic and from the OP. The OP suggested rarities found in the clockworks should be tradeable. I said no to trading because of alt dragging (But yes to vendoring for a small quantity similar to materials). I have no clue what tangent you went on.

@Dephagos

No. Just because it does occur does not mean we should help the case for it. I do not support any suggestion that could bring back the farming reign of alts.

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