what: make the elevator a not-safe spot.
why: people are abusing the share-everything mechanic by idling at the elevator for sigils.
when: at this time, if possible. For future repeats of this event, if possibru.
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w̶h̶o̶:̶ ̶w̶h̶a̶t̶?̶
how: have the Harvester target those that are closest to the elevator and removing the safety railings.
People need to be able to AFK for the bathroom (etc.) safely. It's a long level for those who put effort into it, and you generally run into it randomly, sometimes several in a row.
Doing this to the elevator won't solve the problem, either. I've received sigils while being dead/downed. Not sure if this was a glitch or the default case. Will test. EDIT: went in with myself and my alt. Yes, dead bodies get sigils - both puzzle sigils as well as purple freed soul sigils, and this continues after the body has been "downed" for a long time, too. Interesting to note: puzzle sigils go into in inventory... the text that says "everyone got X sigils" plays for the dead body, and the sigil-going-into-inventory plays, but the bot did not have more than 18 sigils in its actual arsenal. Very interesting.
Instead of tweaking the elevator, tweak THAT. Make it so after 30 seconds, no sigils4deadplayers (cause I could derp die, I still deserve sigils if I'm farming well and get up fast enough. Them scarabs on my butt man).
To solve this problem, find players whom you can trust. Every multiplayer game will have those who mooch, steal, and rot the community. It's your choice as a player whom you talk, game, and farm with. (Yes, farming isn't gaming, imo, haha).
Sorry, if you're dead, you don't get sigils. You obviously have not tested that proper.
I agree with Dracora; play with people you trust.... and people that have shiver bombs ;p. Or join an friendly/active guild and play with them.
Doing an effective & efficient run is a coordinated team effort. Playing with pubs usually doesn't give you the sense of coordination in ANY game.
Or if you insist on playing with pubs, make sure you're the Leader/Host... you can always just kick people if you think they're not helping out. Don't kick'm if they're bathroom'ing or something though.
Hmm. Want screenshots? I will provide. I never state data idly - it's a shame when people do. I'll have to go into the level with my adorable alt again, but, that's no problem. Actually, I'll go do that now, give me a few minutes. I'd hate for this to blow into a pointless opinion war, when the data is right there.
There ya go.
Compare party text and sigil # between images.
Data is 100% consistent with statements in my previous post. Feel free to test yourself if you think I'm the sort to photoshop/edit my first post after seeing your comment - but that would make this entire thing more ridiculous than it already is.
*Sigh*
Not that I particularly care about the correctness of the spewing of opinions based loosely on anecdotes (something I never do, and something I fix if it's in an official place like a wiki), or an assumption that I tested something improperly (I don't need other people to tell me I'm wrong when I'm right, that would make me a silly willy person that has no self esteem and exists on the views of others. I am my own person - though people do think I 'm a robot sometimes, instead of a human XD) - this is truly something I desire a fix for.
Plx make harder if not entirely impossible to mooch kthx.
Bathroom break is a logical reason to sit on the elevator.
Massive lag from teammates not killing scarabs is another (Java will eat up 1 million K of memory if people leave them alive)
Having less than 10% hp and sitting at the elevator means that if the rest of the team dies they can carry on. (This is actually inconsiderate on the last floor though, as there are no further floors that get you sigils)
Keeping the harvester after you while in the safety of the elevator means the other players can farm to their hearts content without being chased by the most overpowered monster in the game.
The Harvester is nowhere near as OP as a Tortodrone would be.
Last time this event came around the scarabs couldn't get to the elevator but Mr. AH could and did many times. Sucked the life out of me while I was waiting to leave.
Notice how you only get the 18x sigil from the puzzle but none from lost souls
@Dahall's: "Notice how you only get the 18x sigil from the puzzle but none from lost souls"
yes, I said that in my first post. And it's clearly stated in my image as well. Sooo... I fail to see the point of your comment? And what's your opinion regarding the original post?
@KD: were you standing by a candle near the elevator, or near the elevator itself? I find that for certain arrangements, the candle isn't RIGHT next to the elevator, and it isn't "safe." It's more the elevator, and a small radius around it, that is safe. IMO, it should be fixed so that the candle area is the safe spot (not the puzzle candles, though) more so than the elevator.
I would like to see this in actual graveyards too. It's not my fault I got the ??? graveyard and want to wait at the end for the next floor's compound to go away... yet, I must deal with those annoying pink phantoms fairly constantly. Gross. Safe spot by end elevator please.
I +1 this mucho!