I didn't play during the old system , how did revives work? Also why does noone revive themselves for 10 ce as i think its also 10 ce for them to revive you?

The old revive system was pretty bad. In the end, most parties who were going through hard content and couldn't quite manage it got down to a pip or a half on every knight and you couldn't really properly play the game because taking a hit was always death and it would possibly cost your party energy.

As for the old loot system, it was nice but it was far more open to abuse, with alt carrying and whatnot. It'd be especially bad now that we have free elevators.

So, basically, "I refuse to listen (*≧▽≦) to any constructive feedback Ｏ(≧▽≦)Ｏ and hear ＼（＠￣∇￣＠）／＼（＠￣∇￣＠）／ out the reasoning as to ☆*:.｡. o(≧▽≦)o .｡.:*☆ why the old ╰(　´◔　ω　◔ `)╯ system was objectively worse (◡‿◡✿)"

I think I know where this "petition" belongs...

athough its not new its still a suggestion, you're not special, use the correct forum
also saying no haters is worthless due to the fact everything needs some sort of criticism to improve
old loot system, you can sit alts down and get more loot, new system slows that down a lot deterring alt farmers
old system, materials were randomized and not shared, and were harder to get
old system, you could drop consumables which allowed you to carry tons of health pills along
although it was easier the new system has way less flaws

but I agree with the health share revives, but keep sparks to self revive

One more tip, listen to both sides of the story of the health sharing and not just your own, it helps.

KK!! time to add my veeery positive thoughts into this.*totally not sarcasm*

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Leaving madness aside, I already had my thoughts on the old revive system where I said I hated energy revives, a merge between sparks of life and the health sharing revive would be what i'd like the most, I really liked health sharing.

@Midnight-Dj
And as for the revive, I loved it, the noobs can no longer beg all day for easy revives, I just ask if anyone want to revive him/her and if not, instant kick. I prefer it stay that way so noobs can actually git gud as supposed to counting on someone to revive them.

Noobs beg for spark revives after losing their free revive anyway, and there are people that still die and hinder the rest of the team with their presence on levels that they shouldn't be in, the current system allows that as much as the old one did, you were also able to kick bothersome people back then as much as you are now, bringing the old revive system back would not hurt you a single bit or anyone else for that matter.

ps. haters, if you can't provide any positive thoughts on balancing or how to make it work, please go away. You doesn't help at all.

ok, I believe I have already seen another user doing something similar to you and this mentality needs to stop, so I will respond to this the only way I know, the mean way, this isn't an evening tea party at your house, this is a forum, where people come to post their opinions and DISCUSS, do not expect everyone to chime in and agree with everything you say, thats not how it works, nor how it should work.

If there is a certain user who is just posting nonsense or really just trolling, you ignore him/her, but don't dismiss people who won't agree with you as haters, if you really want that you should post on your own blog or a site of your own, but as long as you post in a forum, don't expect anything, there will always be someone who is willing to derail, destroy, throw tomatoes at your post with the most malignant and evil intentions, asking them to go away won't help you at all, instead, they will probably feel encouraged even more because of you paying attention to them before they even post on your thread.

"here here guys, I can't take negative comments!! i am going to get pissed, quick quick!! come and troll me!"

and tbh I really had to make a great effort not to turn my post into pure trolling and negativity, yep, I really had to.

First things first, I can barely understand what the hell you're trying to say. But I think I get the gist of it.

What's wrong with a free revive? Does it make the game too easy for you or something? I don't understand why anybody would be against this.

Second, shared loot is a terrible idea. Like someone said, it's really open to abuse. If anything SK's individual loot system is one of the many great things (in my opinion) that sets it apart from your run-of-the-mill MMO.

The whole team-play thing though, that I can sort of agree on. But I don't see how the old version promotes team play. I'd say the current game does a pretty good job of encouraging team play already.

As for the health sharing bit, yeah, I also think that's a good idea. The only thing I'd add to that is that I hope you can still revive without having to approach the other player. It's simply much more convenient that way, and less hectic too.

Lastly, I'd like to add a suggestion. SK should implement a system to vote away a party's leader. Too many times have I been stuck in random parties where the leader was utterly incompetent. But the rest of the players have no method of kicking him. It's simply too much effort to branch off and make a new party lol.

PS. What do you have against Real Life? It's not all bad once you know how to deal with things.

it is funny when people fail to get sarcasm even when it has the word sarcasm written all over it. the first things i said in my previous post were all jokes, if you do not get it yet.

I never said nor implied that you were adressing me when you said that, nor do I think that is the case, I only expressed my thoughts on your comment. in fact I just agreed with your post, I just clarified that your ideas about "haters" seem wrong and unfitting from that comment you made in the OP.

and yes! I would turn if I felt that someone is calling me a douchebag, but that doesn't automatically make me a douchebag, same way that when some individual actually calls me a douchebag I do not feel that i am a douchebag, but I do feel offended by that.

if I found you on the street and called you stupid right in your face would you just think "oh, i am not stupid must be someone else" and walk away, if that was the case only 1 conclusion is left to make...

what make me sad when someone post this kind of thread its how people jump quickly to "NO BECUZ ALT ABUSING!"

well sadly old revive system will never come back, i enjoyed more than the new system, i barely see "improvements" with the new system (the only one i see its that revives dont raise in price if you die so often) yeah we have the free revive, but i feel that took part of the charming of the game, which make it easy. which i find annoying how this new system give more advantage to play solo rather in team, which was the reason why i liked the game, the coop mode. solo play should be only for the one who look chanllenge or because they wish.

anyway, other forumers posted about how to improve the lack of "cooperative help" in the game since health sharing isnt anymore in the game, one suggested that players can use pills to donate "pill health" to a down knight so they can revive, which i dont find pretty bad, since you know, now that you cant drop usables on the floor, unused pills gather in the battle floor, this could work since in order to revive someone you need to use your own pill and since drops are now instanced... its fine.

other forumers suggested about a new usable that will let you revive fallen knights and since its an usable you can only carry 3 of them, and they would be like rare usables like mecha knights kits or recon flare, i think thats fine too but honestly preferred the pill idea since that was the most close thing to health share (and well in a crucial moment where you have low life and 1 pill you would choosee between help fallen mates or health yourself)

but at least for me the good coop aspect of this game ended.

The emergency revive is pretty much Three Rings' "fixed" health share. That is, you don't hurt your team (while sacrificing some teamwork element) when you use it, and it gives enough health to push you forwards. If anything, it would be great if you could give away your emergency revive to downed players in the same manner as the old system.

But alas, I would rather save the suggestions we need for a thread dedicated to them without all the demeaning words flying around. We also have plenty of threads that suggest better alternatives in cleaner formats in this forum.

I was using her/his grammar as a metaphor to describe her/his grammar. Seriously, English is not even my first language and I find the grammar atrocious. And as for hating on the thread, like I said many times before: I am the shadow necessary for this forum to exist, I am the disparity this world needed. Like light and dark, heat and cold, life and death, love and hate I am just here to balance out the voices in the forum to keep it neutral and free. And if you don't like that, too bad, I am just here to be the Joker for every 'Batmen' on this forum.

And as for my opinion, I've already posted it on my first post. Now if you excuse me, I must go back playing another MMO.

I am the shadow necessary for this forum to exist, I am the disparity this world needed.
You can do that without being rude to other people.