Need some oppinion on my 'problem'.
sam, 07/25/2015 - 22:24
So here is the thing. I crafted a GF instead of the DA because of the curse. However then I heard a lot about DA being superior over GF. And then I discarded my nightblade, and crafted a firebrand instead. Only for OOO to buff the Archeron and co. So tell me. What can I do to atone my mistake? I mean.. What's the selling point of the two weapon compared to the one I didn't choose to have?
dim, 07/26/2015 - 05:23
#2
obligatory
I have a detailed sword guide that compares many of these swords against each other.
As Krakob says, you should not discard any of these weapons. Just keep them. Using a variety of weapons in different situations is much of the fun of this game. And you don't know how Three Rings is going to buff weapons in the future.
So you currently have Gran Faust and Combuster? Those are both good swords. What's the problem?
If you want a price check, then move this thread to the Bazaar forum (by editing the original post and choosing that forum from the drop-down menu). That's where players respond to price checks. But again I urge you not to sell these weapons.
dim, 07/26/2015 - 08:13
#3
On the DA vs WMRH/Combuster
I would have to argue that the DA is actually better is quite a few situations. I'm not debating that the Combuster and WMRH have the highests DPS against SINGLE targets. The DA's charge attack is where it's real power lies.... it can deal more CROWD DAMAGE than a Combuster or WMRH could ever dream of. In places like FSC with hordes of Slags a single DA charge deals about as much or more damage than 2-3 Combuster charges. Not to mention that the ability to move a whole crowd in a single charge can prove indispensable.
lun, 07/27/2015 - 06:05
#4
Strength comes from variety rather than a single loadout. There will be levels better suited for Gran Faust than acheron and vice versa and that goes for pretty much all gear.
In the meantime your choices are fine. Combuster is a very different sword from acheron and it's plausible for you to craft and use both. Gran Faust is less well rounded but still gets the job done on most levels.
So really, just keep crafting and collecting gear. There is hardly a wrong answer.
lun, 07/27/2015 - 09:38
#5
.....
Pretty much any weapon that ends at 5* is a viable line that can find use.
Even the CIV which makes a good weapon for killing Deadnaughts.......
lun, 07/27/2015 - 13:22
#6
Seriously though, cold iron vanquisher is garbage. Warmaster rocket hammer does what it does way better, as do blitz needle, pepperbox, iron slug, nova driver, Levi even dress venom striker. Don't tell people to craft civ lol
The majority of weapons are useful somewhere but there are exceptions that you should avoid when considering for serious use.
lun, 07/27/2015 - 14:53
#7
@ Fehzor
Most if not all that you listed leave you fairly open on the charge attack. CIV may have less damage but the charge deals a decent punch and protects you from all sides.
If you plan on running with Chaos or Black Kat then weapons with natural buffs like the CIV won't be that useful as your weapons already deal more damage and it caps at +6. If you plan on the more defensive approach then by all means take time to figure out which weapons keep you the safest.
lun, 07/27/2015 - 16:13
#8
We've already talked about said defensive approach and warmaster rocket hammer doesn't need to charge to beat out civ. Safer is also debatable when blitz would ko faster and iron slug can just hit through their shield at a distance. But don't give up- tell me why I'm wrong because you know I love that.
dim, 08/02/2015 - 15:08
#9
I took the CIV.
Why I didn't take any of the other weapons you listed:
First, I'm taking out all guns mentioned. I want a sword for this.
Warmaster Rocket Hammer: Can only be obtained with OCH. That's just... No. Not yet.
Leviathan Blade: Okay, really? It's not better for zombies. If it was, the CIV wouldn't even be added in-game. The entire reason the CIV exists is because it's better at killing zombies than the Leviathan Blade.
Dress Venom Striker: Doesn't exist, lol. (I know you meant Dread Venom Striker)
Dread Venom Striker: ...Okay, I actually can't give a good argument about this. Less controlled? Needs more skill? I don't really know, I haven't actually used any cutter-type weapons against monsters.
sam, 08/08/2015 - 17:02
#10
well
Well, that's one of the worst swords in the game. The reason why it exists in the game, even though Leviathan is better, is that the rules have been tweaked many times since it was introduced. It used to be okay. Now that there are so many ways to get damage bonuses, its family-specific damage bonus is much less useful.
Anyway, you'll kill some undead and have some fun. No big deal. Enjoy.
sam, 08/08/2015 - 21:09
#11
You should really consider buying operation crimson hammer, even if that means saving up for a long time. You get the best bomb for DPS (except against shadow resistant enemies) in the game, an incredibly fun and useful sword and the ability to craft (and rage craft) one of the best gunner helmets available. Getting operation crimson hammer is almost on par with crafting chaos when it comes to improving your gear selection.
I just don't think it's an honest decision to go around telling people to craft cold iron vanquisher for serious use. It's a cool weapon to craft and is amusing to use, but it's just not something that ever actually warrants using. Like I've never stopped and said if only I had brought my cold iron vanquisher on this run, things would be so much better. So lets not tell people to shoot themselves in the foot by crafting poor gear unless that's what they're going for- and don't get me wrong, I went for shooting myself in the foot, crafting wild hunting blade/cold iron vanquisher/old +1 damage, +0 ctr chaos for no reason and my play is probably better for it, even if it took me longer and was much harder than it had to be.
And lastly- "Dress venom striker" was because I was posting from my phone. My apologies.
For starters why in the world would you discard a weapon? Whether you vendored it or just dropped it doesn't matter - you should never do either of those to equipment that's 4* or better.
Either way Acheron and Combuster are two of the strongest swords. They have the best single target combo DPS in their categories (although WRH can outdo Combuster) and they have extremely powerful charges that also provide a ton of control. Sealed Swords are good but not really as good as Brandishes.
As I understand it, you have a GF and a Firebrand. I suggest you upgrade that Firebrand to Combuster and then focus on other aspects of your arsenal, because Combuster+GF is a decent set of swords for most situations. You may want to eventually craft an Acheron because it's so strong but I wouldn't prioritise it unless you already have plenty of other 5* weapons.