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In Response to "This game needs more advertising".

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Sat, 12/01/2018 - 14:01
Lava-Worrior's picture
Lava-Worrior

First off, I largely agree that it would be great if Spiral Knights received advertising. However, as outlined by the development team, this is impractical. Advertising is expensive. period. But that's neither here nor there.

What I really want to pose to our community is that advertising CAN be accomplished: by the players. What made some of the most popular games (as of 2018) so successful? Think of *ahem* Fortnite... Twitch. Youtube. Twitter. A Constant Social-Media Presence. These forms of media and their respective content creators reach out to larger audiences and grow game communities.

For this reason, I want to first thank some great SK content creators; Rynth and Chawkthree are two particular creators that I enjoy. Feel free to recommend some more in the reply section :)

What I'm trying to say is... While we all dream of logging in to Steam and seeing a Spiral Knights ad, if we really hope to attract new eyes to this awesome game, we have to do some of the work ourselves. So, let's do it! Go make cool Youtube videos, showing off the game; Go and stream!

This was something that, as a returning player, I REALLY wanted to talk about. I think everyone that visits these forums really value and cherish this game. With that being said, I hope that more players create videos, stream clockwork runs, etc.

Anyways, I hope this was decent for my first real Forum post lol.

Wed, 12/12/2018 - 17:12
#1
Fangel's picture
Fangel
aye

Interaction with an audience is a huge marketing strategy now-a-days, and it's completely free to the company doing it. Spiral Knights likely never pulled many people in from actually paid advertisements, thus the word of mouth carried it forwards.

I mentioned this in a recent thread, but Three Rings/Grey Havens likely have access to data regarding the return on investment for various forms of advertising. I highly doubt that, with a smaller budget (this is an assumption at least), they would be trying to ramp up advertising in a way that isn't proven to work for them. I want to say cross promotions are their best bet, and I absolutely believe that a cross promotion between Slime Rancher and Spiral Knights would be not just fitting (seeing as both Grey Havens and Monomi Park come from the same Three Rings family) but a perfect thematic promotion.

That being said, we have some wonderful content creators even today! We have amazing artists, excellent music creators, video creators (both serious and silly), and as of recently, some great community-oriented livestreams!

I try to dig my hands into community strongholds myself - while my presence on the forums has declined a bit, I'm helping run the Spiral Knights Discord Server on my free time, and help manage the subreddit as well. I also totally-don't-provoke(with-food) the game masters on Twitter, which they aren't always the most active on, but still maintain a presence at.

Personally, I believe that Grey Havens doesn't need any more advertising - the players do that for them. However, the important part is to maintain the playerbase. I believe what Grey Havens really needs is a dedicated and official Community Manager - someone whose primary concern is to rally the community together, talk to the community to get their thoughts, and relay that information back to the rest of the staff to build up game plans. Once they have someone who not just negates the silence between the team and the playerbase, but actively talks back and forth with them, that's when we'll get some of those "glory days" back that old players are so fond of... Even if the actual development is a bit slow.

Thu, 12/13/2018 - 00:32
#2
Midnight-Dj's picture
Midnight-Dj
A stronghold built upon a corroded foundation

I think before GH even consider putting out advertisement, they need to fix SK first and mend old bridges:

-The fixing of the end game grind, radiant rarity is a joke, and any new players who blitz through rank 6 will be met with the ugly reality of the grindfest, seriously, worse than even mist era that I sucked through of playing daily RJP/FSC grind.

-Balance the weapons, any new players will be a met with the rude awakening that their 5* gears are sometimes inferior to their fully heated 4* counterpart and those crucial med CTR for bombers will be impossible to get. And you can imagine how fast the smile on their face will vanish when their 'tanky' plate armor is no more tankier than a chaos set. Or realizing that there is no 5* winmillion...

-Mend bridges with old players(pre forge and weapon binding), the first thing anyone who sees SK ad may be asking if their friends would like to join, and if their friends were veterans who felt slighted by OOO's silence, you can bet they will be bad mouthing SK and discourage anyone from trying a dead game. And they certainly aren't wrong if they can point out the aforementioned issues with the game. Still glaring despite what some people might tell you.

-Fix the monetization scheme, this one may be a bit off topic but if any of you here who had kept in touch with the wider gaming community then you should know the backlash against loot box that is sweeping across the world, with many nations investigating the loot box practice from AAA games. This stigmatization would most likely make new players, who might have gotten sick of loot boxes frown just a bit if they ever decided to look at OOO's endless promotions history.

Before they fix any of these issues, advertising is just a waste of money. But I think GH is aware of these, but I am just pointing them out.

Fri, 12/14/2018 - 14:26
#3
Lava-Worrior's picture
Lava-Worrior
Totally Agree

I totally agree. Having some sort of manager that could communicate to the team and to the player base about exciting info would be really beneficial. I think what ultimately matters is...well... money. Is there something we all agree we would spend money on? I mean seriously. If SK told us tomorrow that they were releasing a paid DLC, I bet we would all buy it.

Sat, 12/15/2018 - 21:24
#4
Lordcalvinheins's picture
Lordcalvinheins
did it ever have ads?

did spiral knight have an advertisement or publicity when they first came out? i only found the game myself at a couple computer running it at a 3 rings stall at some convention a few years after it came out.

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