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Which is better for FSC?

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Mié, 03/10/2021 - 04:58
Gaomonxx

Which is better for FSC?
Blitz Needle or Plague Needle? coz Plague Needle poisons enemies, so we should technically do more damage, no?

Mié, 03/10/2021 - 07:15
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Thats-Rough-Buddy
blitz needle outclasses

blitz needle outclasses plague needle in every instance, plague needle is a novelty item

the poison is a very low chance, and doesn't compensate for the reduced base damage of the plague needle

Mié, 03/10/2021 - 08:05
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Fehzors-Forum-Alt

The difference at max damage... on the first floor of FSC vs slags....

76 vs 87 on normal hits = 11 difference; about 13% less damage for plague
217 vs 245 on charge hits = 28; about 11% less damage for plague

This then reverses itself (253 vs 271 on d25 blitz vs poison, for instance) when you take into account poison. There's also the bit where poison makes healers kill things, and enemies do less damage, and all of that.

What I will say though. This is still enough to one shot charge a slag here, if you land all of it... and it's still enough to one shot trojans on solo at least. I think it might hinder your trojan murdering abilities in a party of 4 however. In this case, blitz may outshine it? Which would certainly be huge for the blitz case.

I don't think it's that big of a deal which one you choose though. It's certainly a much bigger deal how you prefer getting the recipe, whether you really love the color green, and how much you like the idea of countering those healers/etc.

Mié, 03/10/2021 - 08:19
#3
Gaomonxx
My thoughts were leaning more

My thoughts were leaning more towards whether Plague Needle is more effective against Vanaduke or not

Mié, 03/10/2021 - 09:42
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Fehzors-Forum-Alt

3 blitz + 1 plague beats out 4 blitz vs Vanaduke, but the difference isn't that huge I don't believe. I'll get numbers if I run it later... If anything, you'd want plague if you're always in a full party with competent blitz noodlers, since they'll kill the trojans etc. that need blitzing prior to asap anyway and you can boost the vana fight even further with the 3 blitz/1 plague thing. You don't have to worry about other plague noodlers since they're quite rare- plague is harder to make for most people and the payout isn't very big and people really like pure damage..

It is worth mentioning that poison stops vana's fireballs from coming back, and that keeping him poisoned makes the fight slightly safer I guess?

Jue, 03/11/2021 - 06:45
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Bopp
that's what I recall

As far as I can recall from threads years ago (that you might be able to find in a web search), Fehzors-Forum-Alt is right: 3 BN + 1 PN out-damages 4 BN, but the difference is small.

Mar, 03/16/2021 - 23:19
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Sir-Pandabear

Pepperbox.

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