Spiral Knights - Heat into Crowns

Heat into Crowns

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Sat, 08/06/2011 - 01:59

Sturak

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Okay, so I'm sure we've all hit the point where all our current gear is max level. All that Heat we build up is just completely wasted (though I have gotten myself killed a few times to let party members who still need Heat take some of mine through resurrecting me).

What I propose is that when the Heat you've collected doesn't have any gear to go into, it gets converted to Crowns instead.
Now, just how much is debatable, but we should get SOMETHING out of it.
And when we're running the Clockworks over and over, we're generally doing it to make a buck. All that excess Heat should be used for something.

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 03:45

Psychorazer

Agreed.

I need another use for heat. SO much of mine went to waste. I don't care what for, it can be 10 heat for 1 cr for all I care, I just don't like seeing it go to waste. Craft lesser mats to better mats with heat instead of energy, store it, whatever, I just need another use...

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 04:34

kojiden

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Sat, 08/06/2011 - 06:32

Theskyblade

i agree

if there is no equipment under level 10 and nowhere for heat to go, it should be converted to crowns or saved for when u have lower level equipment.hope they add that.

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 06:54

Xylka-Mkii

Yep. I agree. Maybe not a

Yep. I agree. Maybe not a HUGE amount though id say maybe have a Jelly King stratum level give 500-1000cr with the heat you get so that it wont affect the market in a bad way.

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 08:20

Orangeo

I think it should save heat

I think it should save heat in a mist tank style thing. But you have to buy spare heat tanks to fill up for later.

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 09:52

Madadder

more crowns generated= more

more crowns generated= more crowns pumped into the economy= more inflation

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 10:44

Soulstaker

Monkey is right I bet OOO

Monkey is right I bet OOO will use their veto power to shut down this thread.

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 17:11

SterlingRed

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Sat, 08/06/2011 - 17:19

Dukesky

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@ monkeyman135

Yeah, more crowns equals inflation... if it's a ton of crowns. The whole point of this thread is that we want something, ANYthing, for our wasted heat. It need not be a small fortune in ransom.

I think the heat -> crowns conversion should also be affected by the quality of your equipment.
The lower tier your stuff, the easier it is to hit level 10. So if you're rocking 0* lv10 armor, the conversion should be next to nothing.

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 18:53

#10

TheOne55

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Sat, 08/06/2011 - 19:38

#11

Madadder

i do think that there should

i do think that there should be something to use unused heat for.... just not this

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 00:26

#12

ewun

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agreed, unusable heat should

agreed, unusable heat should be converted to something useful

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 03:04

#13

Klipwc

30 heat, 1 ME/ 1 CE, seeing

30 heat, 1 ME/ 1 CE, seeing how thats pratically useless... anyone can measure heat?

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 12:36

#14

Soulstaker

Hmmm I think heat should be

Hmmm I think heat should be like a lottery.When your unused heat adds up.The heat will be transferred to a random player online.When you randomly get heat, the heat will be transferred into your armor.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 12:39

#15

Madadder

here's another issue: upon

here's another issue:

upon death of a knight 30% of their heat is lost and if another knight revives that fallen one that 30% transfers to the savior i can see this being abused for some amount of profit (some profit is better than no profit to players)

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 02:17

#16

Psychorazer

-_-

How so? Only if the other dude continuously dies like complete and utter dumb noob. And like someone else said earlier, the Heat to whatever else doesn't need to be big. Hell, they could exchange a maxed out heat gauge for 10 cr if they wanted. I just want another use for the heat. SO much went to waste just a week ago...Now I have new weapons to heat, but that will soon be done and over and I'll be wasting heat again. A new use would be nice, and it doesn't have to give a king's ransom either.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 06:26

#17

Soulstaker

How about we can like

How about we can like exchange them for materials?!We have a amount of heat and it's under the crowns.When we have a certain amount of heat we can go to brinkes and we can pay him heat!For an example one dark shard for like ten heat.This will be a very good use.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 10:14

#18

Siczo

Maybe get some kind of heat

Maybe get some kind of heat token? Dunno what for, maybe to use on new equipment to upgrade, or for some mats. Maybe even for crafting high tier gear but lower ce costs(high tier as new players use more heat for gear.)
However, if you make heat usable instead of ce or cr, or convert, it would unbalance the market, so it should be needed as well.
But OOO wouldnt like this as it would prevent paying players from rising so fast due to having to play for heat = less people buy ce = less profit for ce :(

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 11:11

#19

PeterS

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"Wasted Heat"

The heat waste mechanic is just a way of encouraging you to always be trying out a new piece of equipment.

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 11:34

#20

Kjtk

Helpful Heat

Alot of people give away there heat so if someone needs some in your party the heat will automaticly go to the person who needs more heat if everyone in the party has level 10 gear then i guess everyone would get crowns by putting all the heat together as one and getting only a maximum of 1000 more crowns...

Mon, 08/08/2011 - 14:20

#21

Jeffreysgf

Being Abused

I don't really see how this will be abused by anyone other than by morons letting it happen.
Sure, it might really encourage people to revive others, and you might have fights over who revives who, but you shouldn't have people dying just to give it to other people.
If they are smart, they will get their stuff to level 10, and then get the rewards themselves.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 04:00

#22

Dysed

Idea?

You could send some of that unwated heat to other players as gifts. It would be great for frustrated players like myself who are trying to level up 4* equipment to level 10 so i can get 5* and it feels like its taking an eternity. I hate to think how painful 5* leveling up would be!

Or some sort of crown charge (even though raising crowns is almost as bad as heat).

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 09:48

#23

Kickthebucket

or make something like mist

or make something like mist tanks that people can fill up and use up on a later time (or sell for crown) however the tank fills at a 5* rate and grants you 5 lvls on a 5* item you use it on (the ammount can be tweaked this is just an example of what i had in mind for some time now)

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 10:29

#24

Starlinvf

A heat tank would kill the

A heat tank would kill the grind needed to level items up, which would had burned energy in the process, but instead now makes a profit for the player for doing nothing special.

I'd much rather see excess heat go towards something frivolous while we're in the clockworks, rather then create a cash cow for 5* players. It doesn't need to be a permanent reward, just something entertaining to use it on.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 20:15

#25

Grievos

fooooooooooooooo

that is true heat is just a waste when a item is level 10 it should be turned into energy and crowns when it is not needed

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 20:18

#26

Horizonknight

Better idea

have a heat tank that stores excess heat.
And if you use it in haven or anywhere else, it explodes into fireworks.

Fri, 10/07/2011 - 20:40

#27

Crystalwyte

Haven't done this yet myself,

Haven't done this yet myself, I buy a variety of goods to increase at various times, and rarely have items at level 10 anyway because I switch a lot. However, I think that trading excess heat for shards sounds good to me, we need more shards out there. Especially green ones, we never have enough Green Shards.

Of course it has no practical sense in either story or gameplay mechanics. But I like it.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 09:51

#28

Blandaxt

Lottery

i dont really like the frivolous lottery system the inputed for the wasted heat. its more of something that has no bearing of almost anykind. I wish the use of the lottery system at the end in the elevator was an option and we could also use heat for other means like physical aspects of increasing speed, or base on the armor you have can give other kind of eefect like if you have the begining spiral brigadane, it can give the effect of getting a critical damage on ur sword swings or something small like being able to use it for ur gun and increase the range. or if it was a different armor that is level 4 or 5 have a gravitational effect that slows the surrounding weak monsters on level tier 1 to and tier 2. something that give the game more ability to actually have a style, like becoming and elemental knight. if it was a high level fire knight armor level 5 , he could use the heat for absorbing partial fire attack damage that he can then put onto a fire weapon if he or she has one equiped that could increase the fire effect damage. something that makes you feel you can belong to a particular group by using the heat system onto it.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:11

#29

Asukalan

Heat tank would be good, but

Heat tank would be good, but always bond so people wont sell heat for money and it wont affect market. Or leave it like its now, with die30%share between party memebers.

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 10:22

#30

Dirge-Knight

Heat => ME

It is true that none of us like to waste heat, but I propose that we convert excess heat into Mist Energy instead.
Unless the payout for crowns is a decent amount, I would rather have something immediately usable. (for crafting, or at least getting to the next depth!)

Thu, 11/10/2011 - 15:01

#31

Frostythepyro

I dont think heat should be

I dont think heat should be converted into something perminant and usefull. So heat to crowns/energy is a no-no in my book.

I do want a use for "excess" heat.

Ideas that I would suport
rerolls on the prize wheel (you only keep the last one rolled, for better of for worse)
burned for a move speed increase
burned to instantly charge an attack
Burned for some sort of desperation move.

Another thought would be to have special crafting stations at the end of each level that lets you use heat and maybe some mats to create vials and vitapods and the such.

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