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Sudaruska and triglav damage bug? (took alot of work to compile this data plz take it seriously)

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Sat, 08/06/2011 - 15:37
grimangelx
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I feel like these swords damage are weaker than they ought to be
(these damages are based on normal damages (resistant/super effective damages not counted)

this is basically a look at weapon balancing and how the sudaruska and triglav have not been made equally in comparison to other swords
First a look at these two swords along side the most commonly made swords

Heres the list based on stratum 6 damage (attack power means on the weapons image there is a little bar thats filled that shows its power, that bar has 10 sub sections)

Divine avenger
1st hit = 241
2nd hit = 363
whole combo = 604
charge = 600+ 131x(number of projectile hits. usually 1-3) total = 731-993
attack power = 7/10

Gran Faust
1st hit = 241
2nd hit = 363
whole combo = 604
charge = 600+ 131x(number of projectile hits. usually 1-3) total = 731-993
attack power = 7/10

Leviathan Blade
1st/2nd hit = 203
3rd hit = 258
whole combo = 664
charge = 368 X (number of hits; up to 3) total = 368- 1104 (also knocks things reallly far away)
attack power = 8.5/10

Cold Iron Vanquisher
1st/2nd hit = 186
3rd hit = 238
whole combo = 610
charge = 360 X (number of hits; up to 3) total = 1080
attack power = 8.2/10

Now these 2 new swords
Sudaruska
1st hit = 257
2nd hit = 315
whole combo = 572
charge = 451
Other effect = small chance of stun (almost never happens)
attack power = 10/10

Triglav (based on my lvl 10 triglav)
1st hit = 258
2nd hit = 321
whole combo = 579
charge = 453
other effect = small chance of freeze (almost never happens)
attack power = 10/10
REQUIREMENT : 250 krogmo coins. Thats like 125-200 pvp rounds. (basically a whole lot of time and/or energy)

so based on this i feel that the sudaruska and triglov need to be relooked at because there attack power shows that they are supposed to be stronger than all the other swords, but in fact they end up doing less damage then all the other swords. This trend is seen though all the 5 star swords. i only listed the most commonly used ones.

All that i ask is that all weapons be treated fairly as advertised?
If possible, change the charge attack of sudaruska/triglav back to when spikes jutted out of the ground, or increase the rate that they increase status effects, or fix there damage so that there on par with/ or better as they are advertised. The triglav in my opinion should be much better because it takes 250 krogmos to get it X.X

Anyway thanks and i really hope this gets looked at/considered.

Sat, 08/06/2011 - 16:17
#1
Ngm-Boy's picture
Ngm-Boy
I agree!!! I spent how long

I agree!!! I spent how long getting the triglav only to be disappointed. It rarely freezes, sometimes not at all! The bars are at max and its weaker than swords like the Divine Avenger or Gran Faust!

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 09:14
#2
gummybearx
Legacy Username
agree

lol i see u posted this in arsenal section too. Well i commented there but i guess it wont hurt to put what i said there in here:

all of the new krogmo weapons (the voltedge, plague needle, electron vortex) are amazing.the electron vortex is a gravity bomb + shock, voltedge is kiting sword with shock, and plague needle makes the blitz needle obselete. the new haze bomb is just as useless as the old one so no point in getting it BUT the triglav is lacking.

How can they make such an awesome looking sword and give it such a misleading attack power. I was dissapointed when i made it because its damage is really low. The sudaruska makes up for its bad damage because apparantly it has a decent stun rate (although i feel it can be amped a little for soloing porposes) but the triglavs effect is useless and unmonopolizable.

developers can you please fix these swords (triglav especially)

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 14:57
#3
Asonara
Legacy Username
Suda doesnt have a decent

Suda doesnt have a decent stun rate really, its just as low as Trig's freeze.

But yeah, I was so disappointed as well. Trig looked awesome, its dmg bar made me gasp, and it could've been a sword that really sets players with skill apart because the charge attack requires alot of practice to use properly. However, the charge does barely any damage and the freeze just doesnt happen even though the graphics show ice coming all over out of the ground.

Its much more difficult to use than Glacious's charge yet that has a higher freezing rate and a bigger hitbox even if only 1 explosion appears.

The Triglav really should be buffed so it can be a weapon thats actaully worth its 300 K coins to make.

Sun, 08/07/2011 - 15:18
#4
Ween-Bot's picture
Ween-Bot
Hmm

I get a feeling that eventually the recipes from Sullivan will become available through conventional means (vendors/Basil), probably when the Coliseum is updated and/or new equipment recipes come out.

Looking at your figures the damage does pale a little compared to DA and GF. Then again DA is pretty much the most used sword in the game because of it's damage and charge attack... However the Sealed line 5*s do have 7/10 damage in two types, while Sudaruska/Triglav have 10/10 in only one type.

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