Spiral Knights - Shield Permanently breaks

Shield Permanently breaks

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Fri, 08/12/2011 - 04:09

Psychorazer

Sometimes, in all places that weapons can be used, the shield stops working.

I know this probably isn't a new problem, but I was doing a JK round with a friend, and we got absolutely...by a Giant lichen colony because we had no shields. We died 3 times as many times as normal in the rest of the stage because we couldn't shield. And it has nothing to do with our skill. I constantly solo the JK rounds (except JK himself so far) and can do it fairly easily without dying.

I'm not sure how this works but it can get really annoying. Fortunately it was fixed after that stage, but it would be appreciated if it could stay fixed.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 05:09

Starlinvf

It mainly occurs when players

It mainly occurs when players try to use the level looping exploit. So whoever started that party was doing something they shouldn't had.

Fri, 08/12/2011 - 14:02

Psychorazer

^_-

Really? How did I loop the training hall? XD

Bt I was invited to a JK stage and we got pwned because we had no shields. No looping was involved.

Unless my friend looped then invited me, in which case I would inherit the glitch.

Hm...

If it's a consequence, I guess it's ok. It'll still be annoying if I get it again for no reason.

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 00:45

Jeffreysgf

key word

starlinvf, notice a key word, "MAINLY".
So where you wrong when you said it mainly occurs during looping, or did you just make an accusation against perfectly innocent people?
How does looping screw it up, and how do you loop in the first place, and what is wrong with looping?

Sun, 08/14/2011 - 01:44

Ufana

This does have nothing to do

This does have nothing to do with "looping", it's window focus / changing - related.

(I suspect, there's a a possibility to break your shield like this when you send certain strange / incomplete keyboard events to the client. Maybe only "shield button up" without a preceding "shield button down" or something like that, can't put it to a test. )

Mon, 08/15/2011 - 16:28

Rage-Knight

It does not matter why this

It does not matter why this happens, its a bug, its game-breaking (can't survive!!! cannot completely avoid getting damage if enemies aren't melee only) and thus needs to be fixed.
If its window switching related then it explains why I got it - I play windowed, often check other windows, including browser. Sometimes I launch second copy of spiral knights (mist is not shared, I'm a "premium" player :P ) to check auction prices.

Tue, 08/16/2011 - 02:55

Ufana

Yeah, so if it "doesn't

Yeah, so if it "doesn't matter" how exactly that happens: good luck getting someone to figure out how to fix it :P

Well, this is sort of hart to reproduce, so maybe OOO can't find it ;). I'm not sure if it can even happen unless you're doing "really strange stuff". What exactly are you doing to get that so often it really becomes an annoyance? Can't be *just* window switching. Are you using a strange controller for SK or something that might send input events while the window is not focused?

To me, it happend about 3-4 times and only when all or most of that happened at once:
- Had SK rendered to compiz offscreen pixmap thingy to watch it Picture-in-Picture style while I was doing something else
- Had a second keyboard connected to the SK-Client while I was using my first keyboard in another (the focused) window
- Was pressing keys (chatting or interrupt idle) on the SK-Keyboard *while* I was using the mouse / typing on my primary keyboard in the focused application
- Had my window manager switch to SK because something unexpected was happening ingame and pressed keys & buttons ("mouse1 for shield") in a hurry (like p.E.: ooops, I forgot a zombie somewhere that now made his way to my character and is taking a deep breath).
- Also I might have used the shield button to switch window focus to SK: Guess the "press down" event went to the window manager, SK client only got the "button_release" event.

I have not been able to systematically reproduce this bug by pressing keys & switching around windows.

Also just a side-note: If you stand around long enough and keep doing whatever broke your shield, it'll start working again sooner or later. Don't know how, but I was mostly standing around in the clockwork using guild chat anyway and at some point I just suddenly had a working shield again.

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