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Mo, 08/29/2011 - 20:09
Tauburnasaurus

Ugh, Please can you make it so that there is a way to view the people you were previously in a party with, or atleast allow invites to people on your friends list to help with boss battles.

Reason behind this:
I was just in a party of pretty awesome people, I go through the entire stage of FSC - considering that it is my first time on T3 i knew i wouldn't have a chance with out those guys, but they seemed pretty pro, so i stuck with them, they weren't complaining as far as i can tell (they were speaking German so i can't really comment on what they were saying in that language), only to be kicked when they reach Vanaduke. this means not only have i wasted some of a valuable commodity, I'm now stuck on a level in which i have no hope of completing myself, for no reason what so ever, except that i am not as good as them. This brings me to 3 points;

1) I have no way to trace the people and report them. As I have said, they kicked me for no reason, no warning, on the hardest possible level without any source of help, meaning I've just wasted energy, which in my opinion should be a reportable offence.

2) I'm stuck in a level that I cannot do on my own, let me call for help from my bro's. Wait a second... I can't because bosses are locked. fair enough, you don't people farming tokens. Make people who join on bosses invite only, and then have it so that they don't get the tokens upon completing it. IDK.

3) Force people to choose there language when creating a new character. In the above case, I cannot speak German, or atleast not enough to make a comprehendable sentence, if I knew they were complaining about me, (no idea if they were or not) I would have told them I was sorry, and if I knew that they didn't want my help on the boss, I would have gone to haven again.

In a side note: 5* winmillion plox, kthnx.

Mo, 08/29/2011 - 20:19
#1
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Klipwc
You CANNOT report someone for

You CANNOT report someone for kicking you, its not against any rules, and truthfully? if they spoke german and you joined them for all you know they might have kicked you because you didnt speak thier language, and no it will never be a reportable offence, if they want to troll you then its thers and your own problem. Also party leaders have the right to kick anyone they want.

Your 2nd point
This will never be implemented, dont even think about it, no one is gonna join a boss fight for 0 tokens,

Your third point
Theres alreadly an option to do it, either you unchecked it by accident, or something else happened, go to options and middle row of your options it says

Chooese language [language] "Party with any" [x], uncheck party with any, its unchecked by default

Mo, 08/29/2011 - 20:34
#2
Tauburnasaurus
1) The fact is, they let me

1) The fact is they let me play for about 8 or so levels, in which they had plenty of time to kick me. they only kicked me right at the boss and personally, I don't believe that they should be able to get away with it. Its not a nice thing to experience, especially if the person is a new player to the game, and they're think there with an awesome team, only to be trolled at the final hurdle, leaving them to fail.

2) If any one of my friends required my help on a boss, then I'd go and help them, regardless of if I got the tokens or not at the end of it. its all a matter of personal preference.

3) I have it unchecked, meaning i should be in a party with English speaking people only.

Di, 08/30/2011 - 00:42
#3
Akarinmimiz
Would it be a bad idea to

Would it be a bad idea to allow invites to boss floors at least before activating the boss fight and allow the person invited to net 1 token? 1 token in itself isn't a whole lot but someone coming to fight the boss is still going through a lot of work so a little reward seems justified. If necessary you could enforce a bigger energy cost to accept a boss floor invite if 10 energy = 1 token seems too broken. I can imagine the OP's pain in being left stranded in a situation they can't manage. At least in other types of floors you can call in help.

I do not agree with the thought of reporting people just because they kicked you though. For one, the whole idea of a party leader is allowing them control over the party. It's really their choice to kick someone if they feel said person might hinder them, especially when you're dealing with a difficult battle like that. Reporting that would be akin to throwing a fit because the cool kids won't let you play with them anymore.

Perhaps a warning would have been nice but then you're dealing with another language anyway. I obviously don't know the specifics of this particular adventure but it would be hard to ask you if you didn't understand them. Perhaps they did ask and you, of course, missed it because you don't speak their language.

That brings us to the other problem with reporting people - no GM can possibly know what actually happened during a Clockworks run. Say someone got kicked for trolling the team or just being a general nuisance. They then go report the party leader for unjustly kicking them. How does the GM know what happened? Asking the other party members who are either more likely to side with the party leader since they didn't get kicked or won't remmeber anyway because it was one of many random adventures and thus can't be expected to actually remember the names of each and every party member?

I don't really remember what the situation is like for setting language but this seems like a moot point since people can still select to party with anyone if they want anyway. Usually you'll be tagged up with your own language people anyway if you're set it like that but sometimes you'll end up with people who won't speak your language. That's the risk you run with random teams. If it's a problem make use of a guild, friends or asking in the forums for reliable English speaking partners who are willing to lend a helping hand as needed and avoid random teams for situations where you don't think you can handle it alone on the offchance you get kicked or your team members leave on the last lift before the boss.

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tl;dr Reporting would be unjust and completely unenforceable. Allowing a boss floor invite, even with low rewards and/or increased energy costs for accepting would remove the need to report in the first place.

Di, 08/30/2011 - 04:59
#4
Tauburnasaurus
Well, personally I think the

Well, personally I think the whole report/kick system is just too cumbersome and easy to troll, even as GM. kicking should have a list of pre-selected reasons behind it, and if you disagree with the reason behind it then you can report.

Also: on a side note, i don't know how much harder vanaduke is compared to the rest of FSC, but they managed to do FSC perfectly fine even if i was a hindrance.

besides I wasn't asking entirely for an option to report the previous GM, I was asking for a thing which is a history of the previous party as you left that team - so you can friend players if you didn't have time to/forgot to, or just send them a quick tell.

Di, 08/30/2011 - 08:17
#5
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Oh if your just looking for a

Oh if your just looking for a history, theres something called a chat log. i use it to check if i join a PUG and its empty [means got kicked by someone, most of the time they discuss whether to kick], just click the up arrow at the bottom left of your chat, then search for either things they said, or more commonly, mats they gained as their names are displayed when they obtain mats

Hope this helps, though i dont know how its gonna help you

Di, 08/30/2011 - 08:42
#6
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Aquajag
A simple solution would be to

A simple solution would be to lock all group changes on a boss level, except for personally leaving the group. Since players can't be added, make it so they can't be kicked. If you're the leader and you don't want someone there, you probably new that when you all got on the boss elevator

Di, 08/30/2011 - 08:42
#7
Tauburnasaurus
Ah thanks, I'll keep that in

Ah thanks, I'll keep that in mind next time (it was 4am when this happened so I probs wasn't all with it).

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