Spiral Knights - Something You Probably Didn't Know About The Skolver Set...

Something You Probably Didn't Know About The Skolver Set...

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Wed, 08/31/2011 - 12:39

Superuupper

Theres always been the Argument of owning a Skolver Cap/Coat VS. Vog Cub Cap/Coat.
Im here To Discuss About the Benefits Of Owning A **Skolver Set**

UNIQUE VARIANTS!
So, We Know that Skolver Items Offer Damage Bonus to Swords Only.
But in Fact it offers more.
The Damage Bonus Medium Is Transfered To A Sword's Unique Variants!
To Explain Ill use My Arsenal As an Example...

My Swords and Unique Variants:

*****Divine Avenger With Damage Bonus VS. Slime Medium.
****Jalovec With Damage Bonus VS. Construct Low.

With those Uv's In Mind, Heres Where it gets better!

Skolver Items, Not only Give extra bonus to All Swords equipt but ALSO ADD THAT DAMAGE TO The UV'S!
My Divine Avenger has Slime Bonus Medium, PLUS The Sword Damage Medium from the Skolver item EQUALS Slime Bonus VERY HIGH!

MEDIUM + MEDIUM = Very High! , LOW+ MED = High!

This also Applies To My Jalovec. When using skolver Item My Uv Lows INSTANLTY Become HIGHS When I Equipt The Skolver item!

So no Need to complain About A Final Flourish With a Beast Damage bonus medium , With A Skolver Item IT Becomes A High! ^_^

Make sure to take advantage of the Unique variant machine Before the prices Are Increased in the next patch!

This was a Guide By Superuupper

Please Tell Me if You Found This Helpful!

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 12:43

Ten_Tacles

Legacy Username

Um, that is with every damage

Um, that is with every damage increasing attribute.
My mad bomber gives very high to my bombs, my master blast has medium to gremlins, which is very high to everything and max against gremlins.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 12:50

Superuupper

Yes

Yes this applies to all damage increases like ten_tacles said .

Im just Pointing this out To give A Little more spotlight to the Skolver set vs vog cub

So Any Damage bonus Also Applies To A Weapons Uv's Also.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 12:51

Superuupper

Ugh another edit

Where i mention the FINAL FLOURISH Its "BEAST Low" not Beast Medium

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 13:17

BiggestLoser

Legacy Username

Zelda

well vog would also stack up with attack speed UV's :o

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 13:46

Katmint

Isn't this a negative thing?

Isn't this a negative thing? Full Skolver + Barbarous Thorn Shield will make all sword damage UVs useless since the damage is already maxed.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 13:53

Poweredbysteam

Wiki

People should read the wiki more...
@ Superuupper: Thx for bringing this topic to light.
Check out the full mechanism of stacking Abilities here:
http://wiki.spiralknights.com/Abilities

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 13:56

Acid_Snow

Legacy Username

Helpful?

Yes, it was helpful, but it got kinda annoying to read due to the odd capitalization. I can understand if English is not your mother tongue, but be light with the Shift key. As for damage bonus... the thing is, when crafting a sword up to 5* you're more likely to get a damage bonus vs. a monster group than ASI simply because there are 6 monster group UVs (ignoring low/med/high, etc.) and only 1 ASI UV. To stack them is helpful if you like one-shotting certain annoying monsters (like, say, stratum 4 Jellies), but I'd definitely say I'd rather have ASI very high than damage bonus med against most mobs and very high against one type.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 14:16

Wotwotwotwotwotwot

@ Katmint

...Which in turn allows for us to focus on Speed UVs, which are universal on swords regardless of which ones we choose to use. Damage UVs are restricted to one class of enemies, which makes getting all the quote-unquote important UVs harder to do without using trinkets.

Example - I use a full Skolver/Barb set. Yay max damage. But I also have ASI UVs on my swords, which allows for a higher DPS than most Vog Cub users could do with similar gear, even with similar UV parallels, because I don't have to worry about which weapon takes advantage of a monster's weakness.

The only trade-off is that Vog Cub has better resists than Skolver, while Skolver just has sheer DPS potential at the risk of taking more damage and less status resists. Note, I'm not saying that Skolver gear comes out of the gate swinging, since it requires a lot of investment to get defense out of a Skolver item, and you have to worry about your Attack Speed variants on your weapons. Some would even call it a huge money pit because of how many times you'd have to theoretically Punch a Skolver item to get a beneficial UV (I consider anything with a defense of High + to be "beneficial"). But with enough patience, you could easily get some good use out of a Skolver set, even if you do Vanaduke runs regularly (which is one of the only redeeming factors of the Vog Cub items in my opinion because of the ASI trinkets).

/twocents

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:04

Rommil

pretty simple, imo

either get all weapons with vh ctr, or vh asi.
then use trinkets and weapons to max the other.

mix, match, and equip skolver/vog (with swiftstrike and barb shield) to get teh combos of max/vh asi/ctr/damage that you prefer. its win all the way around. except getting vh ctr and asi weapons is pricey.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 15:34

#10

Iron-Volvametal

I think Skolver is better than Vog.

You can get a Full Skolver Set, plus a Barborous Thorn Shield to get Max! Damage.

Get a Fire/Elemental/Both UV at High-Max! On the Coat/Cap/Both, so you can get the Vog Cub's Stats+ The Skolver's Stats.
(Plus, I've read that Max! Defence Bonuses from UVs are better than "Natural" ones.)
And then you can get an ASI: High-Very High on yer Sword(s), so that's covered.

After that, get 2 Elite Sword Focus Modules, & you'll be at Max! CTR. (2 from Trinket+2 from another Trinket+2 from a Lvl10 Sword=6[Max!])

Bit costly, but in the end, you'll end up with Max! Sword Damage & CTR & a High-Very High IAS from the Sword(s).

Dunno if I'm missing something, but yeah, I still think Skolver's better if you happen to have the Moneyz. ._.

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:25

#11

Katmint

@RetequisExactly, but that's

@Retequis
Exactly, but that's not what I was talking about. I meant negative as the thread was about that damage UVs stack being a good thing, while it would actually be useful if damage vs. monster and general damage UVs didn't stack, to obtain even more damage vs. a certain monster type.

@IronSkullKid
You could also get CTR UVs instead of the ASI UVs and use Vog with two Elite Slash Modules and Barbarous Thorn Shield. Same bonuses, but with Vog's generally better resists and no need to buy expensive UVs for Skolver. :P

Not saying Skolver is bad though, for example if you use multiple armor sets you might be better off with the ASI via UVs or trinkets, in which case Skolver can cover the damage bonuses. That's when it's most useful, IMO. Besides Jelly runs, of course. :P

Wed, 08/31/2011 - 17:50

#12

Icycloud

Full skolver with both max

Full skolver with both max fire resists. Divine avenger with asi very high. End of story.

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