Spiral Knights - MY MIND IS BLASTING THROUGH AT SONIC SPEED!

MY MIND IS BLASTING THROUGH AT SONIC SPEED!

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Sun, 01/22/2012 - 13:53

Williamgreenebow

First of all, the title is because I have a ton of ideas, and they will all be in this topic, at least the ones I have right now. I will put them in a list. Please note that I do not mean to be rude, if any of this comes out as rude, and I do not mean to break the rules at all, if that happens. Some of this may come out a bit whiney, but eh.

1. The Tails Tails acessory. I feel cheated. My allowance is not large enough for me to be able to get it before Jan 31st. It is way too expensive in the auction house. I would be satisfied if you made the promotional Items for sonic CD buyable from boost permanently, however, I kinda think you should bump the price up a ton. I'm thinking 10k energy MINIMUM. After jan 31st, that is. I wouldn't feel as cheated that way. My allowance will increase in Febuary, but also decrease in frequency. Either way, I feel cheated on the Tails Tails accessory.

2. If knuckles chaotix comes out on steam, make more promotional Items for it. I'm thinking an Eggmobile(though you could do that for any sonic game) and bee wings(charmy bee is my favorite sonic character starting with sonic heroes). Seriously.

3. It seems very illogical how mist energy is shared between all knights on an account. Wouldn't they all have seperate mist tanks? It doesn't make sense. I can understand the crystal energy, but not the mist energy.

4. Requiring energy to use elevators to go into the clockworks really decreases the playability of the game in my eyes. It doesn't make it unplayable, but it is a bit of a hinderance.

That's reallly all I have right now.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 14:10

Hexzyle

Mist energy is shared between

Mist energy is shared between knights to prevent players from being able to craft three times as many items per day, or playing through three times as many dungeons. The prices would more than triple, because of things like heat being worth something, and the whole conjoined mist thing would be pointless.

With no mist required to enter dungeons, the amount of crowns people get per run would cause all prices of everything to absolutely SKYROCKET, especially since the fact it would mean tier 3 players who can earn a lot more money per level than a tier 1 player could rake in the cash, meaning that you'd need to play 50 levels just to buy an Autogun.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 14:32

Williamgreenebow

It defies logic

But the Mist energy being shared defies all logic and makes no sense and WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!?!?!?!?!?!? Forget the energy being used to enter dungeons, the shared mist energy is illogical and has to go. And what about the rest of my suggestions. I still feel cheated on the Tails Tails.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 14:39

Hexzyle

As I said, it prevents people

As I said, it prevents people from creating 3 knights and having to play on each one to earn three times as much money. If it was allowed, then prices would increase due to everyone creating 3 knights and getting more money, and all players would need to create 3 knights in order to earn any decent amount at all. Therefore it would completely make it pointless. Prices are set by players, you'll always need to work a certain amount to get a certain item with certain stats. If that item is worth 1000 crowns, and all of a sudden it becomes three times easier to obtain crowns, that item will rise to 3000 because that would be the new decent price that people would pay for it.

If you would like 2 accounts with seperate mist energy, all you have to do is purchase something with money for one account, then the second account will have its mist energy seperated from the first.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 14:40

Williamgreenebow

YOU ARE STILL IGNORING MY

YOU ARE STILL IGNORING MY OTHER SUGGESTIONS!

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 14:42

Hexzyle

The Economy for Spiral

The Economy for Spiral Knights as a Free to Play game is constructed quite well. There really isn't much we can do about it, but maybe the tier 1 elevator cost could be revamped a bit. (because tier 1 is a bit of a grind) There are petitions going around the forums to do that. Look 'em up.

The other suggestions don't apply to me, as i have no interest in anything sonic related. Sorry.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 14:49

Williamgreenebow

Also, get rid of those tree

Also, get rid of those tree golem things. They're more trouble than the gun it takes to kill them is worth.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 15:02

Hexzyle

What are you talking about?

What are you talking about? They're slow, easy to dodge and circle, and their attacks knock you far away from the enemies surrounding you when you have your shield up, which can get you out of sticky situations.

And how is any of the 2 star equipment worth a lot of trouble? It's just 50 mist and 1400 crowns for the recipe and craft cost, with further crafts only costing 400.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 15:40

Williamgreenebow

They hit hard and throw me

They hit hard and throw me into a panic when I see them.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 15:49

Hexzyle

Stand back then. You'll see

Stand back then. You'll see how hopelessly slow they are. Just fight them slowly, think before rushing, and make sure you get out of the way or shield when they attack. Their attack pattern is pretty predictable. Guns in the Alchemer line absolutely shred lumbers, and all other mechanical and undead monsters. I'd suggest investing in probably a Cryotech Alchemer or a Voltech Alchemer.

The alchemers will also help you massively during Graveyard or Candlestick Keep levels.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 15:57

#10

Maeko

A suggestion on how to better

A suggestion on how to better the energy system, in my months of playing, i have never seen a thread on this topic even once. My congratulations on your amazing senses and creativity for solving problems.

...

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 16:02

#11

Iron-Volvametal

I'm guessing...

You just Hack & Slash, instead of Attack, Defend, Attack...

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 16:08

#12

Hexzyle

@Maeko

Just confirming that that is sarcasm :|

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 16:29

#13

Superderpbro

...

Go away please.

Nobody likes charmy.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 17:08

#14

Fehzor

I'm having a hard time taking you seriously.

You've suggested-
-Making more sonic armor, which is already just a sham to make money off of people's nostalgia.
-Hastily ruining the energy system
-Removing lumbers, because you personally dislike them. If we did that for all the enemies that people had trouble with, the only thing left would be the new slags.

Good job. Now go play sonic.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 17:29

#15

Williamgreenebow

@Superderpbro Uh... are you

@Superderpbro Uh... are you sure about that? I like charmy. Therefore, you're wrong.

@Fehzor "I'm having a hard time taking you seriously." Good.

Sun, 01/22/2012 - 17:29

#16

Williamgreenebow

@Superderpbro Uh... are you

@Superderpbro Uh... are you sure about that? I like charmy. Therefore, you're wrong.

@Fehzor "I'm having a hard time taking you seriously." Good.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 07:54

#17

Spyash

soo creative!

ya cuz nobodies ever suggested changing the energy system.....

http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/41131

this will also help you hopefully

~ spyash

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 11:50

#18

Mohandar

To address your points

1. Entitlement- just because you think it is this way, doesn't mean it should be. Because your allowance isn't given until February isn't exactly a general reason that applies to most or all the other players.
2. see point number 1
3. It's how the energy system works; it is designed to push you to buy CE for real money, but doesn't completely prevent you from progressing if you decide not to. Sure there are flaws with it, but OOO has kept it in place so long because it seems to be working well enough.
4. see point number 3

I'm not trying to be rude either, but it would probably help if you stepped back and put a little distance between yourself and SK before thinking about these things. That, and the corpses of hundreds of similar threads should indicate how well these suggestions have fared in the past. If you find this ruins your enjoyment of SK, I suggest finding a new game. There are hundreds of fun, free games you could play; don't get hung up on SK if you're not enjoying it.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 19:04

#19

Diabound

"1. The Tails Tails acessory.

"1. The Tails Tails acessory. I feel cheated. My allowance is not large enough for me to be able to get it before Jan 31st. It is way too expensive in the auction house. I would be satisfied if you made the promotional Items for sonic CD buyable from boost permanently, however, I kinda think you should bump the price up a ton. I'm thinking 10k energy MINIMUM. After jan 31st, that is. I wouldn't feel as cheated that way. My allowance will increase in Febuary, but also decrease in frequency. Either way, I feel cheated on the Tails Tails accessory."

I wouldn't worry about this. I hope to buy more than one once the price falls a teeny bit more to sell at profit so just keep chugging along

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 19:46

#20

Blaze-Breaker

1) If you haven't found out

1) If you haven't found out before, a nugget of wisdom.
The world does not revolve around you.

2) Tbh I just don't think anyone really knows about the Chaotix.
I'm not saying all people don't care about them, but they aren't the faces of Sonic
the Hedgehog series. You'd sooner see something from Shadow or Knuckles than anything from them.
(And I would not be unhappy with Vector's headphones.) That, and I have no idea how to implement the
eggmobile. No real vehicles in Spiral Knights.

3) Not an issue of common sense, but an issue of "We can't have you inflating up this game's economy by
allowing you to put three times as many crowns as everybody else into the market."
The elevator pass also does not cost ten dollars.

4) As much as we could talk about how it would be nice to go unlimited times into the clockworks, it would
put more crowns into the market than imaginable, and make it MUCH MUCH harder to buy CE from other players.
This suggestion has been asked since the beginning of Spiral Knights. It didn't happen then, and it won't happen now.
Numerous players have built themselves up from proto gear to vog playing without their credit cards. You can too.

Mon, 01/23/2012 - 20:04

#21

Duke-Sky

@ Williamgreenebow

You seemed to have derailed your own thread a bit, but it in regards to Lumbers (what you call 'Tree Golems')

I recommend a Firotech Alchemer (or any other elemental gun).

Lumber is a construct, which are weak to Elemental. I see Fire as an ideal bonus because it helps you whittle down health of an enemy you want to stay away from. Lumbers are so slow that getting an alchemer charge shot ready for them is easy.
A lot of this applies to gun puppies (gun turrets). Either those are Construct, or the Undead variety. Both are vulnerable to elemental.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 01:41

#22

Psychodestroyer

.....

I HATE to be a party pooper, but I don't see anything good here.

These are all very selfish suggestions. It's like: "Those rockets in IMF are annoying me. Get rid of them /waves hand dismissively"

OOO isn't obligated to fine-tune their game to suit your needs. If you don't have the allowance, that's nobody's problem but yours. Ask for a loan or something.

10Kce? Dude, SHADOW KEYS cost less than that. I read that as: "Oh hey, I can't get them now, so just so I don't feel cheated when I DO get my allowance, keep them there at a ridiculously high price so I can buy them when I get the money. I'm good for it."

Why would we have an Eggmoblie? We don't even have bikes or cars, let alone a USE for them.

"It seems very illogical how mist energy is shared between all knights on an account"
^
That shouldn't need to be explained. That's how the game was made to work, and it could be infinitely abused if it DIDN'T exist.

If you want logic, pretend their all alter-egos of each other. One knight pretending to be three different ones.

"Requiring energy to use elevators to go into the clockworks really decreases the playability of the game in my eyes. It doesn't make it unplayable, but it is a bit of a hinderance."
If OOO wanted to let us play infinitely, then SK wouldn't have the option of paying for extra ce, let alone an energy system.

"Also, get rid of those tree golem things. They're more trouble than the gun it takes to kill them is worth. They hit hard and throw me into a panic when I see them."
I really REALLY don't want to sound like a stuck up nag, but that suggestion SUCKS. You have a problem with a monster, 1) avoid it 2) find a way to KILL it BEFORE it kills YOU.

That's relating back to my 'remove the rockets from IMF'. Don't insist a problem removes itself unless it's a problem that affects others. Those monsters were MADE that way. Slow, strong, easy, but a pain in the butt if you get hit by one.

And don't get your underwear in a knot over logic. There are so many things that defy logic in this game, so don't make me point them out.

If games were made from pure logic, there'd be less than half of the current games in existence.

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 07:51

#23

Hexzyle

@Psychodestroyer

...less than 10%. Have a look at minecraft and laugh. (because it's funnily illogical...you know....I'm not implying that it's a bad game, coz it isn't.)

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 09:42

#24

Arkate

dude wow...

the sonic stuff is pointless, and doesn't help at all... if you ask me these should just be handed out freely, and well you ask to change things that well... pretty much make the game pointless, and dumb. the energy system is a stock market literally, prices rise and fall based on the general community's demand... take away mist blam!!!!!!!!!!!!!! energy used to be 3k for 100ce, now it is 6492 for 100ce, take away mist and 100ce will be about 40k-60k so erm... yeah, but making lift costs in t1 5 energy instead of 10 would be nice

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 09:47

#25

Arkate

@psychodestroyer

I heartily agree, no offense but william you are just wining about pointless stuff, and want the game made so that you have all the awesome stuff right away. you seem to be one of those sonic lovers (again no offense but i despise sonic.) who will do anything to spread it into another game

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:15

#26

Psychodestroyer

@Hexzyle

Seen it.

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/169/695/9633452.jpg

Tue, 01/24/2012 - 15:24

#27

Xylka-Mkii

I just read the first back

I just read the first back and forth between the OP and Hexzyle. All I have to say Is that you refuse to see other's actual logic, and only wish to have a one-sided arguement. Also, This isn't Sonic Knights. Its only a promo, so if you can't get it, then that's just too bad. Just like the Rose Regalias. I don't thinks there's any red chapeaus left on the market, and that's how it was intended. Promo's are promos. Case closed. As for the mist energy, you say its illogical, yet do not give any reason why. We already explained how it would break the economy, and also think of it as this. One family, or pack, if you think of their hierarchy as wolves, of knights are given one mist tank. If you are a lone knight then you still get one, but do not have to ration it between anyone else. Its a simple concept to stabilize the economy and is perfectly logical.

/bye

Wed, 01/25/2012 - 11:46

#28

Hexzyle

@Xylka-Mkii

I was merely enlightening him on points (3) and (4) and giving advice on lumbers. It wasn't really a debate. I must admit though, post 7 I didnt really say anything constructive or useful.

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