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Tue, 04/10/2012 - 14:00
Ccrusader's picture
Ccrusader

Hey everyone!
Just here for some more advice....
Is there any gear that i should be getting?
I feel like i have good loadouts for every level in the game... and i just wanted to have some input on what i should get next (either for fun or serious)

I have this gear already:
SWORDS:
Acheron, BTB, Combuster, DA, DVS, Levi, and Hammer....
BOMBS:
AOA, DBB, DR, Nitro, RSS, SHiver, Voltaic, and 3* grav bomb.
GUNS:
Blitz, AP
HELMS:
Crown of Fallen, Vog Cap, and Volcanic Demo Helm, and 3* gunslinger hat
ARMOR:
Almirian Crusader, Armor of Fallen, Mad Bomber Suit, Radiant Silvermail, Skolver Coat, Valkyrie Mail, Vog Coat
SHIELD:
Barb Shield, Crest, Grey Owlite, and Volcanic Plate
TRINKETS:
2 CTR med trinkets for swords....

Any thoughts on important gear that im missing?
I kind of want to try Sudaruska, but was told it UNDERwhelming... Its not as powerful as it should be...
Is that true? Would wearing vog and getting swiftsrike make it worth using?
any input is greatly appreciated!!

Tue, 04/10/2012 - 14:41
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Bopp
Snarbolax, guns, UVs, trinkets

You're obviously into swords, but you have an excellent sampling of the swords already. I would recommend Snarbolax armor. You even have good equipment to get you through Shadow Gloaming Wildwoods (Fallen, Skolver, BTS/CoA). Buy one of the materials ahead of time, so that you can craft the entire set in one trip.

You've obviously not explored guns much. So try being a gunner? It's a good time, what with the slight buffs recently.

I haven't used Sudaruska/Triglav. They seem to be fun and not great.

I'm in a position similar to you, but with more guns. I'm working on superior UVs on my favorite items, by mass-crafting and buying. You could always do that. You can also get bomb or gun trinkets.

Tue, 04/10/2012 - 15:03
#2
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Demonicsothe
Might I suggest the electron

Might I suggest the electron vortex line, all the way to 5*. A very good vortex. Also, venom veiler is a good status bomb to lay, especially if you play haze bomber.

But beyond those two bombs, you seem to have them all. So branch out into guns and the such like Bopp said.

Tue, 04/10/2012 - 15:07
#3
Ccrusader's picture
Ccrusader
Thanks guys.... I actually

Thanks guys....
I actually just got a Kamarin and am playing around with it...

Thanks for the tips! Snarby armor would be fun, but i dont have the crs or ce to make another SL trip for now... :/
and Venom Veiler is definitely on my list!
Thanks!

Tue, 04/10/2012 - 18:39
#4
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Kickthebucket
hmm other thing you could do

hmm other thing you could do is get the gran faust to compliment the DA

use gran faust against enemy's DA is weak against (same combo, only GF charge is a bit useless)

advantage: allways have at least normal damage (+ the shadow/ellemental wich does normal damage against some monsters)
downside: you need two swords to have the normal damage ^^

i personaly never used the triglav but from what i have seen, it's slower then DA/GF, doesn't do good damage compared to DA/GF, and the charge... uhm it's the rocket hamer charge (i think haha) so yeah kind of good for everything but takes longer weapon (just like the calibur line haha) oh and it has a huge knockback :)

Tue, 04/10/2012 - 21:05
#5
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Dark-Flare
Sudaruska tips...

I have a triglav, so here's my bit on the troika lines:
- ASI helps A LOT. Being the slowest sword in the game makes it annoying to use at times (it's noticeably slower than sealed sword lines)
- It's fun to use if you're mucking around in t1 or t2, but in t3 the damage is also noticeably low, killing stuff takes waay longer than it needs to
- also, on neutral targets (say, elemental vs slimes) the suda/ triglav will do more damage (per hit; DPS, not necessarily)
- pairing the charge attack with a vortex bomb should be mind blowing.

Just make sure you have fun using it (if you get it)!

Tue, 04/10/2012 - 22:18
#6
Tenkii's picture
Tenkii
Sudaruska charge is

Sudaruska charge is absolutely fun vs monsters.

It used to have a random chance of being absolutely good (3-4 rocks with individual damage spawning randomly around you for extra damage), then got nerfed to be terrible (single hit with less total damage than a single combo), and now it's respectable (2 hits with more damage than a single combo), I'd say.

ASI is good, but being that its base attack speed is slower than the sealed sword lines, a High ASI Troika is still not as safe as a High ASI Sealed Sword. I honestly think it's more fun to have CTR on the troika line than anything else XD

@Dark-Flare, on neutral monsters, the Sudaruska/Triglav do more damage with the first hit, but not the second.

Tue, 04/10/2012 - 22:56
#7
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Demonicsothe
Since you got a vortex and

Since you got a vortex and troika, why not craft a chaos set? Vh ctr on the bomb and sword, add sword damage trinkets for vh damage.

Wed, 04/11/2012 - 00:57
#8
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Tsubasa-No-Me
... Make a CTR set...

Put a swifty on top of that and you have a VERY formidable fighting force. In fact, I'd Put a gun in there somewhere...

OH! ... just do this... A CTR setup...

Troika, ASI med-high or CTR med
Vortex, CTR med
Sentenza, ASI med-high or CTR med (Possibly use AP for turret killing)
Swifty
Chaos

All you need is at least ONE to have CTR med, and you can use the other two to boost their CTR up to max as well. If you get lucky/are patient and get CTR med on each of them, then you can boost that Suda damage or ASI. Reason for using an antigua is for that bird at the end, it will SLAUGHTER a mob, but the Suda easily wipes out almost everything that is weak to shadow with its charge, so using an AP for zombie fun or construct lulz is a viable option.

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Also, the Suda combo? thats the underwhelming bit... ATM it sucks. using the first hit is fine, but ONLY use the second if you know you wont get hit, or REALLY need some space.

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Wed, 04/11/2012 - 11:44
#9
Ccrusader's picture
Ccrusader
Thanks so much everyone!!

Thanks so much everyone!! Very good tips and advice!

Update: I just crafted the Khorovod and have been using it in fsc.
It is A LOT OF FUN vs crowds of zombies... a bit slow on the regular swings, but with my two CTR med trinkets, the charge is amazing!! :)
if only even for the joy of the huge hit... :D just fun to vary things up a bit!

Thanks again!!

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