I would really like if these bombs were used more in PvE and PvP, mainly seeing how they have small a small blast radius as well as limited use i really would like if they made the radius a little bigger (not big like shivermist "big"). a Radius somewhat like the DR where it can hurt people if they aren't careful but also requires you to figure how to get them inside of it. I think they are great bombs and would be a great addition to any team or player.
Graviton and Electron Love
Sat, 04/21/2012 - 19:24
Sun, 04/22/2012 - 10:41
#2
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I dont know about you but i rarely see it in PvE no matter who i am with, only time ill see it is if im using one. Other than that i havent seen one being used in ages, and pvp its just completely ignored because of its limited use, i would like a change to that so that bombers can be able to trap enemies efficiantly.
Sun, 04/22/2012 - 11:29
#3
The bomb is fine as it is.
The bomb is fine as it is. (Don't worry about PvP, it's too unbalanced to compare to regular gameplay)
It's a bomb that uses an advanced combat mechanic and is very effective when used along with good teamwork.
Can you now see why it isn't used much?
Sun, 04/22/2012 - 11:46
#4
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If peope dont use it its because they dont want to (or ignore the potential), not because the weapon is bad.
Sun, 04/22/2012 - 11:51
#5
i use it time to time, its
i use it time to time, its just makes me annoyed the dummies sheild bump monster out of the vortex before it finishes and calling me a noob for using a vortex :(
Sun, 04/22/2012 - 17:03
#6
Those suction bombs are
Those suction bombs are pretty mcuh worthless for PVP. I got sucked in by one today, and ran out by myself before the vortex expelled me. No, I wasn't using striker.
Mon, 04/23/2012 - 00:28
#7
Uh...
Two days ago I played a LD game where at least 5 people (excluding myself) were using vortex-style bombs. Granted, this is the exception, not the rule, but people do seem to use them occasionally.
Like others have already said, the issue with these bombs isn't really their mechanical specification, but rather the fact that people usually aren't coordinated enough to use them effectively. When I'm running solo, I'll use my Electron Bomb because it's great for gathering up enemies so I can defeat them quickly, and I understand/utilize that ability. However if I'm running with a party, it's extremely rare that anyone will appreciate my using it, even if I'm running with the 3 friends I play with most. The problem is that most people don't want to pay attention to what their teammates are doing, so the only time they'll notice that you've used a vortex bomb is when its random knockback pushes enemies into their line of fire.
Mon, 04/23/2012 - 02:42
#8
Schattentag said, "The
Schattentag said, "The problem is that most people don't want to pay attention to what their teammates are doing"
I'd hate playing with such people... spawning the 8-turret wave while there are alpha wolvers around in a shock arena? Killing the last slag before trojans are killed, people low on health are healed and people got into position? Swinging near/shooting switches in IMF? Pulsar/Calibur/Nitronome mobs into teammates? Even when the teammates are using "Fallback" and typing "NO" "STOP" "WAIT" furiously? If these people were on voice chat their teammates would've yelled until their eardrums bleed.
Situational awareness is the single most important skill in SK...
Back on topic: When I use Graviton, I tell teammates "Charge up your blades gentlemen". After the first monster wave they'd get it whenever I hold the bomb up in front of a group button.
Mon, 04/23/2012 - 10:56
#9
Vortex bombs are absolutely
Vortex bombs are absolutely the most underrated support weapons in the game, but they are support weapons first and foremost. A well-coordinated squad can make devastating use of vortex bombs, particularly on levels with a lot of swarming enemy waves (T3 Jelly Gardens spring to mind).
Perhaps altering them so that it's no longer possible to simply run out of a vortex would make them more viable PvP weapons?
The bombs get plenty of use in PvE, what are you talking about?
The thing about PvP, though, is that players are (usually) smarter than monsters. The damage is pitiful and you can still attack while inside.