Spiral Knights - Iron Slug, Supernova, & Neutralizer: Give them Stun Bonuses?

Iron Slug, Supernova, & Neutralizer: Give them Stun Bonuses?

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Mon, 04/30/2012 - 02:23

Iron-Volvametal

Kinda looked this over a bit, & thought that these needed a Status to Counter their Counter-Part Lines' Status.
This is why they Should Cause Stun:

-Supernova Stuns because the Explosion Knocks them back so Hard; Gets Moderate Stun
-Neutralizer has the same Effect as Supernova; Gets Minor(On Regular) or Strong (On Charge)
-Callahan has this, why not an Iron Slug?; Gets Moderate (On Regular) or Strong (On Charge)

Of course, this will leave Valiance out, due to it not having a Large Impact(Unless you Count the Charge Attack an Explosion), so that may be a Balancing Issue, so I'll(Or maybe you'll) have to Find a way to make it Even with them.

(I just Happened to be Bored at the Moment, so Agree or Disagree, I don't give a Hoot.)

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 02:34

Psychodestroyer

Dude...

"I just Happened to be Bored at the Moment, so Agree or Disagree, I don't give a Hoot."

Did...did you just...

DUDE.

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 02:37

Iron-Volvametal

...

What? It's 4AM & I'm BORED. Nothing new on Reddit, I've Skimmed through Imgur, Read all the Threads on the Forums, & am still not Pleased.

I WANT TO PLAY SPIRAL KNIGHTS AGAIN.

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Mon, 04/30/2012 - 02:42

Psychodestroyer

Nonono....

Not what I meant.

Do you remember that thread a while back with the OP some guy who told everyone his idea was a really bad one, didn't use grammar. didn't anything and kept going on about how he didn't give a damn about our posts because he was 'bored out of his FREAKKIN MIND' thanks to school and stuff?

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 02:45

Iron-Volvametal

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Nope, doesn't Ring a Bell.

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 02:48

Psychodestroyer

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Here: http://forums.spiralknights.com/en/node/50940

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 02:51

Iron-Volvametal

...

At laughed at his last Post Towards you:

""wow" what "wonderful" comments you all have.
and Psycodestroyer, I don't care what you got to say, nor would I care if you were lying,not even care if you were to have respect for me then Lose it :P,
honestly Im a Nice guy, and you, I don't know but if we were friend I could tell :P
and since this thread is now in the graveyard, Lets forget this, and be friends...although you just be a lying sack of crap to me every time we even talk"

Anyways...

You gunna answer deh Thread Question?

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 02:58

Psychodestroyer

Ikr?

He sent me a friend request to me later. Saying pretty much that I could be a lying sack of fecal matter for all he cared but maybe we should try and be friends ya he knows I said I'd ignore him but he's a pretty nice guy when you get to know him but really he doesn't give a damn what I say he just wants to try be friends.

/click delete.

A vague overall +1. I don't really use any of those weapons, although I was planning to get a Supernova until I prioritized other things.

Also I keep hearing about how the IS and Supernova are outclassed so heavily by their counter part, so it'd be nice for them to have SOME sort of edge.

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 07:47

Fehzor

I favor stun on items.

I favor stun on items. Because I like stun. He is a nice guy.

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 07:57

Dukeplatypus

Stun is a pretty cool guy. He ruins everything with it and doesn't afraid of anything.

But you'll have to realize that you'd make the other half of the pulsar line equally as irritating in LD.

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 08:03

#10

Serell

Stun is my favorite status,

Stun is my favorite status, so you shall recieve a +1 from Serell.

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 08:27

#11

Mk-Vl

Well

if you look at my thread where I'm sorta trying to classify everything you can see that over all there's four weapons that deal stun. The current max is six each for shock and fire. So I say for the sake of balance only give two stun. IMO Iron slug and Supernova should get it. Neutralizer has other needs, like having dmg bonuses work with the charge.

EDIT: Looking again having two more guns evens it out between the three statuses. Looking at the number of swords;guns;bombs respectively that cause each status fire has 3;2;1, shock has 1;2;3. Adding 2 more stun guns makes stun 2;3;1 which gives guns a dominant status as compared to the other two classes.

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 09:26

#12

Softhead

But,

We need to fix it for enemies.

Since stun has 4 lines and needs more, what about poison which has 4 and curse 1. ONE!

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 09:54

#13

Tsubasa-No-Me

@Iron...

Yes... Let me suggest some chances...

Super=slight chance
Neutralizer=slight on normal, good on charge
Iron Slug=Good on both, Perhaps even better or almost guarantee'd on charge... it sucks otherwise... so why not make up for it?

Not only am I famous, but I inspire Hipster...ness... Yeah.
~Tsu

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 10:29

#14

Metanat

now about da iron slug

i think OOO should reintroduce the sleep stat back into the game and the iron slug could deal it like knockout damage just an idea also then the jelly armor would come back into style in ld

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 11:23

#15

Iron-Volvametal

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"Since stun has 4 lines and needs more, what about poison which has 4 and curse 1. ONE!"

That's Probably because Curse is Extremely Powerful. But yes, we do need more Poison Weapons.

I suggested a Separate Thorn Blade Line that acted like the Florishes' separate Lines. Less Damage for Inflicting Minor Poison. It will be useful, due to the Charge summoning 12 Needles, each having a chance to Poison them.

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 11:30

#16

Mk-Vl

@Iron

That sounds pretty reasonable. As for poison if we add your Vitreous Thorn Blade (probably would have a better name than that) then also another bomb should be added bringing the items inflicting poison to 2;2;2.

As for curse we could probable use one more item. What if BAB was re-purposed to deal curse?

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 11:37

#17

Iron-Volvametal

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I would rather have BAB have a Unique Radius Change, where every time you Plant it, it would have a Random Chance of either getting:

-1* Bomb Radius
-2* Blast Bomb Radius
-3* Blast Bomb Radius
-4*Blast Bomb Radius
-Nitronome Radius

Why? Because the Bomb is so Unstable, you won't be able to Predict the Outcomes.

BAB dealing Stun might also be pretty Awesome, due to its Massive Damage & Knockback.

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 11:38

#18

Mk-Vl

What

about the irontech? It's already black and evil looking.

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 11:48

#19

Iron-Volvametal

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Well, Since I made it, I'm still working on a few things to Adjust it.

Here's what I'm trying to do:

-Since the Bomb is made of Thick Iron Plates, the Movement Speed Decrease will stay a bit the same, only you move Faster
-New Animation, in which the Blast Occurs & Metal Shrapnel pieces come flying out
-The Shrapnel expelled will Cause severe Knockback(not as much as BAB, but pretty big) & will cause Interruption
-Un-stability in the Bomb causes it to have an Increased Radius, almost Similar to Nitronome, but a bit Smaller, like the Mist Bombs
-If Sleep is ever Introduced Back, this Bomb will Knock its Enemies into a Deep Sleep, being Moderately Effective

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 16:25

#20

Corrionos

Stun...

Stun...
Doesn't really seem right for the Neutralizer...
I think the lines in question could probably just use mechanic tweaks, such a Catalyzer Charges being able to Chain...

Mon, 04/30/2012 - 16:35

#21

Luguiru

Neglected normal lines

They are supposed to do more base damage than the alternative line.

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Iron Slug, Supernova, & Neutralizer: Give them Stun Bonuses?